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Time to start harvest? (Update)
    #21907939 - 07/07/15 12:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Update 7/17:

Since dunking my SGFC and rehydrating my perlite, my pins are really coming alive. You know what they say though; Mo' Pins, Mo' Problems (No one says that)

Ok the two biggest are really plumping up, and more pins coming up all around them. But one of the caps is starting to crack.
I've read that this could be caused by too much FAE, which would explain the rapid drying off. I've killed all the fans in the room, the door stays shut, and the AC hardly works in there for OCCASIONAL bursts of climate control... So if its not external forces causing too much air, is it my chamber?

Then I have this fat cluster that started on the bottom of a cake that I've turned on its side:

They have been like that for a few days, no change. Are they aborts and should I pull them?

This one has that powdery look to it that someone asked about earlier, don't think I got an explanation of what that means.


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So I'm coming on day five with no pins. Not concerned yet, just wanting to cover all my basis (or is it bases, like a baseball analogy?)

So here was how I initially had my SGFC setup
Clutter for scale

As for the space: I got one of those sliding glass mirror closets with no mirrors, so basically a wide open nook with a large dresser on one side, my chamber on the other. The table is a metal table with the glass removed to allow airflow under the chamber. You can see that theres not a lot of space between the chamber and the walls so I gave it a 90deg rotation to this



My room is also typically pretty warm so I have a fan going, plus a squirrel cage fan going in the hallway that brings air into the room. I have that fan pointed to an opposite corner of the room. Now I read that having a fan can disrupt the flow of the SGFC, but in a semi-enclosed space like that is it still going to be an issue?

In fact is that location going to be an issue all together or should I be ok?  There are not many other places I could easily place it, but if need be I can figure something out.


Been misting it 3-4 times daily, fan after, and a couple extra fans in between. Did have to spritz H2O2 on one cake for cobweb. The vermiculite is pretty much bone dry before each misting, which I figure is a good sign of evaporation. Temps inside the box ranging from 70-75F with RH going from the 90's to (today at least) high 60's. If you can trust those Temp/Hydro combos =P

Anyway, looking for a "Mellow out and wait" or a "Dude that is not gonna work."



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Re: Another impatient pinning thread (FC setup discussion) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21908307 - 07/07/15 04:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Dont worry about the RH readings, trust the SGFC design. Temps could be a problem if you're running over 76+.

move it away from the wall a bit if possible... I've been told at least a foot on each side.

Spread your cakes apart in the SGFC. Don't think theres any reason for them to be clustered like that.

Be patient! I think you're gonna see some fruits soon enough. Your SGFC is at the very least built to spec which is a good step in the right direction.


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Re: Another impatient pinning thread (FC setup discussion) [Re: newrook]
    #21908408 - 07/07/15 06:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Still too close to the walls. Should be a minimum of a foot of space all around the chamber.


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Re: Another impatient pinning thread (FC setup discussion) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21909915 - 07/07/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I figured. I gotta find somewhere it doesn't stick out like a sore thumb. How about the fans? Issue?`


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Re: Another impatient pinning thread (FC setup discussion) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21909975 - 07/07/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Fans will interfer with its normal function and cause it to dry out.


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Re: Another impatient pinning thread (FC setup discussion) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21910079 - 07/07/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So maybe just stick with my air purifier pointed at me on low when I'm in bed huh... Crap. Really should have waited until we got the AC fixed :facepalm:


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Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21917315 - 07/08/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

OK per recommendation of PastyWhyte I've moved the SGFC to a more open area.



No change to speak of on the cakes.


However I did notice that one of my cakes is starting to get some blue bruising on it. Did my best to get a clear picture of the color difference but alas, I'm no Ansel Adams.


So my readings lead me to believe that the cakes are drying out too fast. I have stopped all moving fans in my room, we've got the AC working a little bit better so its not unbearable for me at night and my chamber is still averaging at 73F. My logic tells me mist 4-6 times instead and only fan after misting now.

Got any tips on anything else I can do to help my poor babies out? =\


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD] * 1
    #21917327 - 07/08/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Mist the crap out of the perlite and the cakes.  Regular misting will keep them from drying out.

You can grow PF cakes outside of a fruiting chamber if you just mist the crap out of them.


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #21917341 - 07/08/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, that's about what I figured. -sigh- Its not exactly like riding a bike is it.

I've been misting kinda conservatively because of all the "Dont drench them" posts I've read, but it looks like they can take it. Any idea what I'm looking at in recovery time? I'm also starting to contemplate how the chamber (66qt) is going to work with my bulk substrate (12 qt). I would thing have a big box inside would disrupt the airflow and junk but :shrug:


Edit: And if someone could clarify. Is fanning to aid in evaporation or CO2 dispersion. Cause I've seen where people have said the CO2 is handled by the chamber and others where its built up.


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD] * 1
    #21917418 - 07/08/15 10:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

evaporation.


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #21917460 - 07/08/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So if I'm getting adequate evap then I can probably cut back on the fanning... Hmmm... I'll have to keep a closer eye on it the next couple days. Thanks for the advice!


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21918786 - 07/09/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Query: Could I have too much vermiculite on the cakes? Could it be leeching water from them instead of supplying it?


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD] * 1
    #21921459 - 07/09/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Query: Could I have too much vermiculite on the cakes? Could it be leeching water from them instead of supplying it?




You would have to really really pack that vermiculite on to have too much.

Vermiculite should be like spaghetti. Whatever sticks is what you go with.  If you pack a shit-more on you can definitely expect some colonization around it which might add a couple days to your pinning time but I'm just not seeing that here. :shrug:


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #21926804 - 07/11/15 12:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm just trying to figure out where I went wrong with this. I feel like I'm misting them WAY more than makes sense, but they get really dry, and they are a bit stiff and hard. Should I maybe go for another dunk or just keep misting the shit outta everything?


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21926837 - 07/11/15 12:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If your cakes are drying slightly between mists your okay and watch the mycellium. It shouldn't look all beat up. It should look alive is the best way to put it lol. Just mist them , and let them slightly dry , dont keep them constantly wet or dry , at least thats not what I like to do and a constantly soaked cake is asking for trouble. Bacteria, stunted fruits ect. Just watch and if it looks to wet it probably is, too dry ... Same

There is no set amount of misting for everyone. Good luck and im not sure you are on fruit yet or still waiting for pins. I stop misting right after all pins have formed till the flush finishes but if your chamber is very dry that might differ.


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: mycomaniac1402]
    #21926863 - 07/11/15 01:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Not a single pin yet =\
But thanks, I'm trying to find the balance


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21935808 - 07/13/15 12:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well after speculation last night, there can be no more denying I got pins. I can only assume that my room has a draft or something that would accelerate the drying of the cakes. Instead of giving a few "large" misting I favored more frequent lighter ones, fanning after the mist has settled.

Big thanks to you guys for going through this noob shit with me. I'll update when my tiny flush comes to fruition


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21947851 - 07/15/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

UPDATE: So I got pins going now, but they are are pretty stumpy.


I found on one cake I had more pins coming from the bottom than the top, that one on the left that looks like it may be an abort. Here's the other side of that cake



And those fatties have some bruising?


Am I tripping on nothing?


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21948228 - 07/15/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They look great , a bit dry so mist them lightly. When you start to see the viel showing that white ring around the cap and its starting to stretch, I stop all misting. Mushrooms dont like to be drenched

They look healthy and that bit of bruising might be from dry air , thats all. Great job fruiting your cakes :thumbup:


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: mycomaniac1402]
    #21948273 - 07/15/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Couldn't have done it without the guiding hand of this wonderful community of smart-asses and know-it-alls :tongue:

They are abnormally dry I feel, I'm not even fanning anymore, just light misting every few hours, no drenching. The foil collects a little too much water but I don't have any lids to spare at the moment so I'll just keep wiping it down. I worry about my little children though, how could a mother not?


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21948540 - 07/15/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

From what I have learned you shouldnt stop fanning completely. I think a big pinning trigger is evaporation from the surface.. that's why you mist and then fan. You don't have to fan for very long though, I always read people say they fan for just a few seconds.

I definately fan longer than a 3-5 seconds, more like 10-20 but that's just what works for me in my setup. Since your having troubles with them drying out I would definately just fan a like 5 seconds or so..just enough to move the air around and cause some evaporation

Don't be too down on yourself though! You've already successfully colonized your cakes without contams which is the hardest part in my opinion!


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: and.i.crawl]
    #21948554 - 07/15/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

See they evaporate REALLY quickly on their own, thats why I stopped fanning, I think they are drying out too fast. My room of the house has a weird airflow thing going on... My next guess would be to cover holes with polyfil but I've read so many resounding "Don't do that"s that I havent. Just keep misting and they keep evaporating. The other thing is making sure I don't have any standing water on the foil, couple droplets, no more.


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21948827 - 07/15/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

trim the foil and mist the cakes. Is one having green/yellowish dots or powdery substance on it?


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21948834 - 07/15/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Couldn't have done it without the guiding hand of this wonderful community of smart-asses and know-it-alls :tongue:

They are abnormally dry I feel, I'm not even fanning anymore, just light misting every few hours, no drenching. The foil collects a little too much water but I don't have any lids to spare at the moment so I'll just keep wiping it down. I worry about my little children though, how could a mother not?




He was being serious. They look okay. I mist/fan 3-4 times per day when I am doing cakes...:thumbup:


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
    #21948874 - 07/15/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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trim the foil and mist the cakes. Is one having green/yellowish dots or powdery substance on it?



Foil trimmed, Cakes misted, and no green or yellow. The only time I fuck around with those colors is after ingestion. Just a lot lot of bruising that I don't know the cause

As far as powdery substance...? Not really powdery, more like white flecks on the tips. I'll try to get a better close up pic of the clusters.

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He was being serious. They look okay. I mist/fan 3-4 times per day when I am doing cakes...:thumbup:




Who was being serious and in what regard. I am genuinely thankful for all the advice I get on here, but I'm an asshole, so I have to be somewhat backhanded about it :lol:


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21948882 - 07/15/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)



the stuff on the cake to the right. prob. just the pic then..


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21948912 - 07/15/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

right on... :thumbup:


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
    #21948932 - 07/15/15 07:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I just snapped a couple more, its this camera. Damn Windows Phone. Check it, this one looks massively infected




I touch a pin, they are super dry. I'm thinking I need to put my chamber in the tub and let the perlite soak and drain... Thoughts?


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21948998 - 07/15/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Thoughts?




have you been misting the cakes and perlite?


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: spacechildo]
    #21949007 - 07/15/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have, but as I said, unusually dry. I just dipped my hand into the perlite and its like out of the bag dry, so I went ahead and soaked it. Draining now. Pro-tip, put a tiny strainer over the drain so you don't clog your pipes with perlite


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: spacechildo]
    #21949021 - 07/15/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: spacechildo]
    #21949041 - 07/15/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Looking back at my notes here, I suspect it dried out too much when I still used fans in the room, and when Pastywhyte mentioned the drying out, I just assumed it was only the cakes and that the perlite was still holding moisture. So much facepalm over here. I don't go by the hydrometer very much but its been sitting at 99% since I soaked XD

Thanks much everybody, I'm gonna go enjoy the rest of my b-day with the fam. Love you guys

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EDIT: Woke up this morning and gave the boys a nice misting. The whiteness and dryness seems to be alleviating and I've even got a few more pins now. Looks like were back in action! Thanks again everybody, I'll post more pics when they become larger


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD] * 1
    #21950926 - 07/16/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Good to hear man...  yea, just keep up with the misting.

A couple quick tips...


You can use a fine mist and mist the cakes and pins directly from a distance (8-12inches)so the mist "falls" on them. Then fan until the pins are mostly dry and they will thrive.

A heavy spray can cause small pins to abort. I like using a sprayer with a mist similar to what is used in hair salons for wetting hair. Super fine.... works awesome.

If I need to re-dampen perlite I'll spray the surface down real well with a heavier sprayer.

Mushrooms LOVE water so don't hesitate to mist them 3-4 times a day if they look like they are getting dry.

I'm doing a PF-tek now to get some prints. Woke up to a shitload of new pins today. Already have a couple cakes going good...
Some of the funky looking thin based fruits where invitro pins...:thumbup:






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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
    #21955815 - 07/17/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Update 7/17:

Since dunking my SGFC and rehydrating my perlite, my pins are really coming alive. You know what they say though; Mo' Pins, Mo' Problems (No one says that)

Ok the two biggest are really plumping up, and more pins coming up all around them. But one of the caps is starting to crack.
I've read that this could be caused by too much FAE, which would explain the rapid drying off. I've killed all the fans in the room, the door stays shut, and the AC hardly works in there for OCCASIONAL bursts of climate control... So if its not external forces causing too much air, is it my chamber?

Then I have this fat cluster that started on the bottom of a cake that I've turned on its side:

They have been like that for a few days, no change. Are they aborts and should I pull them?

This one has that powdery look to it that someone asked about earlier, don't think I got an explanation of what that means.


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21956104 - 07/17/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Those are all bone dry. You need to resoak the perlite and sit all those cakes in a saucer of water.


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21956251 - 07/17/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Aye aye.... Inside the chamber? I'm spraying 10-16oz of water in the air over them a day. Between 6 - 10 mistings daily..... What the hell is going on?


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21956284 - 07/17/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sit them on a saucer of water and replace the water every morning. Also poke the bottom holes with a pen to make sure there's no clogged holes. Glad to see you turned off all things moving air.


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: Mad Season]
    #21956353 - 07/17/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I always yield to the advice of those who produce better flushes :bow2:

This dryness though. What could be causing it? Checked my holes all the way around and they are pretty clear... Strangeness.


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21956369 - 07/17/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well with now pretty still air, you should notice a difference.


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: Mad Season]
    #21956398 - 07/17/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So you think I just let my perlite dry out too much while I still had moving air? The fans have been off for a week and a half now...


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21956409 - 07/17/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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I always yield to the advice of those who produce better flushes :bow2:

This dryness though. What could be causing it? Checked my holes all the way around and they are pretty clear... Strangeness.




ctrl + f search for words: fan, 28 results found. dropping the fan = thumbup:


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21956414 - 07/17/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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So you think I just let my perlite dry out too much while I still had moving air? The fans have been off for a week and a half now...




Umm you never remoistened it? Then I would say definitely.


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21956458 - 07/17/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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ctrl + f search for words: fan, 28 results found. dropping the fan = thumbup:



Yeah, moving fans stopped about 9 days ago, actual hand fanning was cut back to outright stopped about 5 days ago.

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Umm you never remoistened it? Then I would say definitely.




I had been misting heavily, but a couple nights ago when I dug down it was all bone dry so I dunked it to get it all wet again.


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21960986 - 07/18/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Veils torn, time to harvest, yeah?


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21961176 - 07/18/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If you want to make prints, you can harvest from the time the veil starts to burst open. This way you prevent that allot of spores will fall down before you place the cap on your print. For consumption, it's also a good time, because the spore didn't blacken the stems yet. But that's just for the looks, for consumption I usually wait a day longer, this way the smaller ones can get a little bit bigger.


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: Sokamin]
    #21961188 - 07/18/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, thats what I'm thinking, but I'm also kinda high so I'm rationalizing that they aren't done because they all got a sudden burst of hydration and its tearing them from rapid growth. Stoners, amiright?


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