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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21948540 - 07/15/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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From what I have learned you shouldnt stop fanning completely. I think a big pinning trigger is evaporation from the surface.. that's why you mist and then fan. You don't have to fan for very long though, I always read people say they fan for just a few seconds.
I definately fan longer than a 3-5 seconds, more like 10-20 but that's just what works for me in my setup. Since your having troubles with them drying out I would definately just fan a like 5 seconds or so..just enough to move the air around and cause some evaporation
Don't be too down on yourself though! You've already successfully colonized your cakes without contams which is the hardest part in my opinion!
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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: and.i.crawl]
#21948554 - 07/15/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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See they evaporate REALLY quickly on their own, thats why I stopped fanning, I think they are drying out too fast. My room of the house has a weird airflow thing going on... My next guess would be to cover holes with polyfil but I've read so many resounding "Don't do that"s that I havent. Just keep misting and they keep evaporating. The other thing is making sure I don't have any standing water on the foil, couple droplets, no more.
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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21948827 - 07/15/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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trim the foil and mist the cakes. Is one having green/yellowish dots or powdery substance on it?
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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21948834 - 07/15/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ZeroBoyWD said: Couldn't have done it without the guiding hand of this wonderful community of smart-asses and know-it-alls 
They are abnormally dry I feel, I'm not even fanning anymore, just light misting every few hours, no drenching. The foil collects a little too much water but I don't have any lids to spare at the moment so I'll just keep wiping it down. I worry about my little children though, how could a mother not?
He was being serious. They look okay. I mist/fan 3-4 times per day when I am doing cakes...
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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
#21948874 - 07/15/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: trim the foil and mist the cakes. Is one having green/yellowish dots or powdery substance on it?
Foil trimmed, Cakes misted, and no green or yellow. The only time I fuck around with those colors is after ingestion. Just a lot lot of bruising that I don't know the cause
As far as powdery substance...? Not really powdery, more like white flecks on the tips. I'll try to get a better close up pic of the clusters.
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FreeWorldOrder said: He was being serious. They look okay. I mist/fan 3-4 times per day when I am doing cakes...
Who was being serious and in what regard. I am genuinely thankful for all the advice I get on here, but I'm an asshole, so I have to be somewhat backhanded about it
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Edited by ZeroBoyWD (07/15/15 06:48 PM)
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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21948882 - 07/15/15 06:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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the stuff on the cake to the right. prob. just the pic then..
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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21948912 - 07/15/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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right on...
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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
#21948932 - 07/15/15 07:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah I just snapped a couple more, its this camera. Damn Windows Phone. Check it, this one looks massively infected


I touch a pin, they are super dry. I'm thinking I need to put my chamber in the tub and let the perlite soak and drain... Thoughts?
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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21948998 - 07/15/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ZeroBoyWD said: Thoughts?
have you been misting the cakes and perlite?
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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: spacechildo]
#21949007 - 07/15/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have, but as I said, unusually dry. I just dipped my hand into the perlite and its like out of the bag dry, so I went ahead and soaked it. Draining now. Pro-tip, put a tiny strainer over the drain so you don't clog your pipes with perlite
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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: spacechildo]
#21949021 - 07/15/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: spacechildo]
#21949041 - 07/15/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looking back at my notes here, I suspect it dried out too much when I still used fans in the room, and when Pastywhyte mentioned the drying out, I just assumed it was only the cakes and that the perlite was still holding moisture. So much facepalm over here. I don't go by the hydrometer very much but its been sitting at 99% since I soaked XD
Thanks much everybody, I'm gonna go enjoy the rest of my b-day with the fam. Love you guys
and Guinness
EDIT: Woke up this morning and gave the boys a nice misting. The whiteness and dryness seems to be alleviating and I've even got a few more pins now. Looks like were back in action! Thanks again everybody, I'll post more pics when they become larger
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Edited by ZeroBoyWD (07/16/15 06:48 AM)
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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD] 1
#21950926 - 07/16/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Good to hear man... yea, just keep up with the misting.
A couple quick tips...
You can use a fine mist and mist the cakes and pins directly from a distance (8-12inches)so the mist "falls" on them. Then fan until the pins are mostly dry and they will thrive.
A heavy spray can cause small pins to abort. I like using a sprayer with a mist similar to what is used in hair salons for wetting hair. Super fine.... works awesome.
If I need to re-dampen perlite I'll spray the surface down real well with a heavier sprayer.
Mushrooms LOVE water so don't hesitate to mist them 3-4 times a day if they look like they are getting dry.
I'm doing a PF-tek now to get some prints. Woke up to a shitload of new pins today. Already have a couple cakes going good... Some of the funky looking thin based fruits where invitro pins...


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Edited by FreeWorldOrder (07/16/15 08:48 AM)
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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
#21955815 - 07/17/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Update 7/17:
Since dunking my SGFC and rehydrating my perlite, my pins are really coming alive. You know what they say though; Mo' Pins, Mo' Problems (No one says that)
Ok the two biggest are really plumping up, and more pins coming up all around them. But one of the caps is starting to crack.
I've read that this could be caused by too much FAE, which would explain the rapid drying off. I've killed all the fans in the room, the door stays shut, and the AC hardly works in there for OCCASIONAL bursts of climate control... So if its not external forces causing too much air, is it my chamber?
Then I have this fat cluster that started on the bottom of a cake that I've turned on its side:
 They have been like that for a few days, no change. Are they aborts and should I pull them?
This one has that powdery look to it that someone asked about earlier, don't think I got an explanation of what that means.

And the other guys

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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21956104 - 07/17/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Those are all bone dry. You need to resoak the perlite and sit all those cakes in a saucer of water.
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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21956251 - 07/17/15 01:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Aye aye.... Inside the chamber? I'm spraying 10-16oz of water in the air over them a day. Between 6 - 10 mistings daily..... What the hell is going on?
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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21956284 - 07/17/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sit them on a saucer of water and replace the water every morning. Also poke the bottom holes with a pen to make sure there's no clogged holes. Glad to see you turned off all things moving air.
Edited by Mad Season (07/17/15 01:54 PM)
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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: Mad Season]
#21956353 - 07/17/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I always yield to the advice of those who produce better flushes 
This dryness though. What could be causing it? Checked my holes all the way around and they are pretty clear... Strangeness.
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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21956369 - 07/17/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well with now pretty still air, you should notice a difference.
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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: Mad Season]
#21956398 - 07/17/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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So you think I just let my perlite dry out too much while I still had moving air? The fans have been off for a week and a half now...
-------------------- I'm done trying to be "right." I want the exchange of ideas to be the currency of my economy. If you have something I can use, great. I'll try it out. If you think my methods are shit, great. Don't use it. We all want yields.
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