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Time to start harvest? (Update)
    #21907939 - 07/07/15 12:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Update 7/17:

Since dunking my SGFC and rehydrating my perlite, my pins are really coming alive. You know what they say though; Mo' Pins, Mo' Problems (No one says that)

Ok the two biggest are really plumping up, and more pins coming up all around them. But one of the caps is starting to crack.
I've read that this could be caused by too much FAE, which would explain the rapid drying off. I've killed all the fans in the room, the door stays shut, and the AC hardly works in there for OCCASIONAL bursts of climate control... So if its not external forces causing too much air, is it my chamber?

Then I have this fat cluster that started on the bottom of a cake that I've turned on its side:

They have been like that for a few days, no change. Are they aborts and should I pull them?

This one has that powdery look to it that someone asked about earlier, don't think I got an explanation of what that means.


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So I'm coming on day five with no pins. Not concerned yet, just wanting to cover all my basis (or is it bases, like a baseball analogy?)

So here was how I initially had my SGFC setup
Clutter for scale

As for the space: I got one of those sliding glass mirror closets with no mirrors, so basically a wide open nook with a large dresser on one side, my chamber on the other. The table is a metal table with the glass removed to allow airflow under the chamber. You can see that theres not a lot of space between the chamber and the walls so I gave it a 90deg rotation to this



My room is also typically pretty warm so I have a fan going, plus a squirrel cage fan going in the hallway that brings air into the room. I have that fan pointed to an opposite corner of the room. Now I read that having a fan can disrupt the flow of the SGFC, but in a semi-enclosed space like that is it still going to be an issue?

In fact is that location going to be an issue all together or should I be ok?  There are not many other places I could easily place it, but if need be I can figure something out.


Been misting it 3-4 times daily, fan after, and a couple extra fans in between. Did have to spritz H2O2 on one cake for cobweb. The vermiculite is pretty much bone dry before each misting, which I figure is a good sign of evaporation. Temps inside the box ranging from 70-75F with RH going from the 90's to (today at least) high 60's. If you can trust those Temp/Hydro combos =P

Anyway, looking for a "Mellow out and wait" or a "Dude that is not gonna work."



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Re: Another impatient pinning thread (FC setup discussion) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21908307 - 07/07/15 04:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Dont worry about the RH readings, trust the SGFC design. Temps could be a problem if you're running over 76+.

move it away from the wall a bit if possible... I've been told at least a foot on each side.

Spread your cakes apart in the SGFC. Don't think theres any reason for them to be clustered like that.

Be patient! I think you're gonna see some fruits soon enough. Your SGFC is at the very least built to spec which is a good step in the right direction.


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Re: Another impatient pinning thread (FC setup discussion) [Re: newrook]
    #21908408 - 07/07/15 06:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Still too close to the walls. Should be a minimum of a foot of space all around the chamber.


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Re: Another impatient pinning thread (FC setup discussion) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21909915 - 07/07/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I figured. I gotta find somewhere it doesn't stick out like a sore thumb. How about the fans? Issue?`


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Re: Another impatient pinning thread (FC setup discussion) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21909975 - 07/07/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Fans will interfer with its normal function and cause it to dry out.


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Re: Another impatient pinning thread (FC setup discussion) [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21910079 - 07/07/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So maybe just stick with my air purifier pointed at me on low when I'm in bed huh... Crap. Really should have waited until we got the AC fixed :facepalm:


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Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21917315 - 07/08/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

OK per recommendation of PastyWhyte I've moved the SGFC to a more open area.



No change to speak of on the cakes.


However I did notice that one of my cakes is starting to get some blue bruising on it. Did my best to get a clear picture of the color difference but alas, I'm no Ansel Adams.


So my readings lead me to believe that the cakes are drying out too fast. I have stopped all moving fans in my room, we've got the AC working a little bit better so its not unbearable for me at night and my chamber is still averaging at 73F. My logic tells me mist 4-6 times instead and only fan after misting now.

Got any tips on anything else I can do to help my poor babies out? =\


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD] * 1
    #21917327 - 07/08/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Mist the crap out of the perlite and the cakes.  Regular misting will keep them from drying out.

You can grow PF cakes outside of a fruiting chamber if you just mist the crap out of them.


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #21917341 - 07/08/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, that's about what I figured. -sigh- Its not exactly like riding a bike is it.

I've been misting kinda conservatively because of all the "Dont drench them" posts I've read, but it looks like they can take it. Any idea what I'm looking at in recovery time? I'm also starting to contemplate how the chamber (66qt) is going to work with my bulk substrate (12 qt). I would thing have a big box inside would disrupt the airflow and junk but :shrug:


Edit: And if someone could clarify. Is fanning to aid in evaporation or CO2 dispersion. Cause I've seen where people have said the CO2 is handled by the chamber and others where its built up.


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD] * 1
    #21917418 - 07/08/15 10:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

evaporation.


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #21917460 - 07/08/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So if I'm getting adequate evap then I can probably cut back on the fanning... Hmmm... I'll have to keep a closer eye on it the next couple days. Thanks for the advice!


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21918786 - 07/09/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Query: Could I have too much vermiculite on the cakes? Could it be leeching water from them instead of supplying it?


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD] * 1
    #21921459 - 07/09/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Query: Could I have too much vermiculite on the cakes? Could it be leeching water from them instead of supplying it?




You would have to really really pack that vermiculite on to have too much.

Vermiculite should be like spaghetti. Whatever sticks is what you go with.  If you pack a shit-more on you can definitely expect some colonization around it which might add a couple days to your pinning time but I'm just not seeing that here. :shrug:


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #21926804 - 07/11/15 12:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm just trying to figure out where I went wrong with this. I feel like I'm misting them WAY more than makes sense, but they get really dry, and they are a bit stiff and hard. Should I maybe go for another dunk or just keep misting the shit outta everything?


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21926837 - 07/11/15 12:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If your cakes are drying slightly between mists your okay and watch the mycellium. It shouldn't look all beat up. It should look alive is the best way to put it lol. Just mist them , and let them slightly dry , dont keep them constantly wet or dry , at least thats not what I like to do and a constantly soaked cake is asking for trouble. Bacteria, stunted fruits ect. Just watch and if it looks to wet it probably is, too dry ... Same

There is no set amount of misting for everyone. Good luck and im not sure you are on fruit yet or still waiting for pins. I stop misting right after all pins have formed till the flush finishes but if your chamber is very dry that might differ.


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: mycomaniac1402]
    #21926863 - 07/11/15 01:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Not a single pin yet =\
But thanks, I'm trying to find the balance


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21935808 - 07/13/15 12:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well after speculation last night, there can be no more denying I got pins. I can only assume that my room has a draft or something that would accelerate the drying of the cakes. Instead of giving a few "large" misting I favored more frequent lighter ones, fanning after the mist has settled.

Big thanks to you guys for going through this noob shit with me. I'll update when my tiny flush comes to fruition


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21947851 - 07/15/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

UPDATE: So I got pins going now, but they are are pretty stumpy.


I found on one cake I had more pins coming from the bottom than the top, that one on the left that looks like it may be an abort. Here's the other side of that cake



And those fatties have some bruising?


Am I tripping on nothing?


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #21948228 - 07/15/15 04:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They look great , a bit dry so mist them lightly. When you start to see the viel showing that white ring around the cap and its starting to stretch, I stop all misting. Mushrooms dont like to be drenched

They look healthy and that bit of bruising might be from dry air , thats all. Great job fruiting your cakes :thumbup:


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Re: Impatient pinning thread (Bluing cake?!) [Re: mycomaniac1402]
    #21948273 - 07/15/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Couldn't have done it without the guiding hand of this wonderful community of smart-asses and know-it-alls :tongue:

They are abnormally dry I feel, I'm not even fanning anymore, just light misting every few hours, no drenching. The foil collects a little too much water but I don't have any lids to spare at the moment so I'll just keep wiping it down. I worry about my little children though, how could a mother not?


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