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ShamanicMushroom
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Homemade Herbal Ecstasy?
#21907373 - 07/06/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok, so I heard a lot about herbal ecstasy in recent years, tried some and I liked it. I was wondering if there was a mix of LEGAL herbs that could induce a state that is stimulating, psychedelic, and empathetic. It dosnt have to be like MDMA just something that can keep me raving!
I have the means to obtain almost any plant, extract, etc.
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naw man, naw
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Re: Homemade Herbal Ecstasy? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
#21907549 - 07/06/15 10:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mad_Larkin said: naw man, naw
Anything that feels like MDMA that's not MDMA is placebo effect.
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Re: Homemade Herbal Ecstasy? [Re: Hayoxp]
#21907588 - 07/06/15 10:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ive heard saffron being LIKENED to it in the least way imaginable, but ive never tried it.
Thats the only herbal "mdma" ive heard of
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Re: Homemade Herbal Ecstasy? [Re: Zombi3]
#21907677 - 07/06/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Homemade Herbal Ecstasy? [Re: MadBotanist]
#21907712 - 07/06/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wanted to try 4FA for a while.
6apb sounded good too
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Quote:
ShamanicMushroom said: Ok, so I heard a lot about herbal ecstasy in recent years, tried some and I liked it. I was wondering if there was a mix of LEGAL herbs that could induce a state that is stimulating, psychedelic, and empathetic. It dosnt have to be like MDMA just something that can keep me raving!
I have the means to obtain almost any plant, extract, etc.
I have actually been searching/experimenting on this for a handful of years now, and and not come up with anything reasonable or profound.
Kratom + caffeine can be a rather pleasant combo, but nothing natural I have come across can replicate that chemical rush of neurochemicals in the same or near similar way.
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Re: Homemade Herbal Ecstasy? [Re: Psy Baba]
#21907997 - 07/07/15 12:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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There is a tree that makes meth 
Haven't heard of a tree making MDMA tho.
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I haven't actually tried a high dose of Sceletium Tortuosum, otherwise known as Kanna, but I have known fermented Sceletium it to be somewhat likened to herbal MDMA.
I highly doubt it would feel much like MDMA at all, but… whatever.
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Re: Homemade Herbal Ecstasy? [Re: plambe] 1
#21908001 - 07/07/15 12:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Safrole comes from the sassafras tree.
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Re: Homemade Herbal Ecstasy? [Re: Zombi3]
#21908003 - 07/07/15 12:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Safrole and MDMA are two different things.
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Re: Homemade Herbal Ecstasy? [Re: plambe] 1
#21908005 - 07/07/15 12:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm just saying things
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Re: Homemade Herbal Ecstasy? [Re: plambe]
#21908007 - 07/07/15 12:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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plambe said: Haven't heard of a tree making MDMA tho.
It's probably in Borneo. Everything is in Borneo.
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Re: Homemade Herbal Ecstasy? [Re: Zombi3]
#21908009 - 07/07/15 12:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: I'm just saying things
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Um who knows what herbs they used but they could have also just sold it as herbal E and it could have been a mix of research chems and other shit...
4-fa is like super adderall. 5-mapb is decent as well.
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Re: Homemade Herbal Ecstasy? [Re: Gorlax]
#21908084 - 07/07/15 01:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Haha yeah if it's anything like the well known company in Australia that sells legal highs, most likely it's a mix of caffeine, caffeine and caffeine.
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Re: Homemade Herbal Ecstasy? [Re: Gorlax]
#21908086 - 07/07/15 01:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think a cunning herbalist could make an "herbal ecstasy". It would certainly be unique from MDMA in sensation, and also probably be a little more tame in intensity.
I'd think to try coca leaf, kratom, kava kava, and perhaps some kanna and cannabis.
Kratom, kava, and kanna would need to be fresh and potent; so you'd need to have a good and consistent source for them. Most people don't know where to get coca leaf in the states that haven't be decocanized; so that rules it out for the majority.
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Caffeine, kratom, kanna, kava, passionflower, morning glory seeds, theobromine- a few ingredients you can find in some herbal party pills.
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Well they would leave out any scheduled drugs because the marketing behind legal E is that it's not illegal. If it were then I'm sure most people would rather just get real E. I'm sure you can come up with some extracted blend that is enjoyable but I doubt any would compare to a pure dose of MDMA.
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Re: Homemade Herbal Ecstasy? [Re: Gorlax]
#21910024 - 07/07/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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There's a certain cactus that has a similar naturally occurring chemical.
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Re: Homemade Herbal Ecstasy? [Re: lowbrow]
#21910091 - 07/07/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think if you abstain from drugs for a fortnight, then make a strong coconut milk infusion of Camellia sinensis and Cannabis sativa, especially if it's rich in both CBD and THC, it might produce an energetic, empathic state...
St. John's Wort might boost the effect... I have no idea if addig it would be safe or not...
The fact is, you're not going to be able to make somethign as pharmacologically specific and potent as MDMA out of herbs, but the Tea+Weed combo might be good for music and dancing. Tolerance forms with the first dose, like any good psychedelic.
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Re: Homemade Herbal Ecstasy? [Re: Gorlax]
#21910249 - 07/07/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: Well they would leave out any scheduled drugs because the marketing behind legal E is that it's not illegal.
Well if it had to be totally legal then just take out the coca leaves, and add a pinch of yerba mate for some energizing kick. Then it would be a legal blend; but it probably wouldn't be quite as smooth with the caffeine.
I doubt any "legal [insert drug]" company is producing a product that is worth mentioning.
Though it's not advertised as 'legal ecstasy'; one member here talked about using this drink called viva zen. Has kratom and a few other herbs in it. I prefer taking my kratom straight; but I imagine that drink must be fairly enjoyable for those who like a mild buzz. I don't know how comfortable I am with Kratom being sold in a drink within the states.
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