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SteelPanther

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Moving out and being independant
#21906576 - 07/06/15 06:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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In short, do you guys think it was a good idea to move out and become independant when you did ( from your parents ) if yes, or no, why?
I think it would be a horrible financial move for me to move out at the moment because I am a student and only make much money during the summer. What do you guys think about moving out as a student, is it worth it to work a job while going to school for a hard degree? I want to move out as soon as possible since my parents are very restricting of what I can do and overcontrolling but I don't think that would be for a coupld years after I have saved up more money. The problem is they will only pay for the portion of the college they have to pay for ( I am on a scholarship for most of it ) if I live with them. So if I move out not only do I have to support myself, but also go to school, and pay for part of it.
Another option which I would consider if I am able to although its a waste of money, it would allow for me to live a much more free and lower anxiety life would be to try and get my parents to pay for on campus housing and I pay the amount extra it is to live alone. However I don't think they would pay for part of housing, since its a waste of money for them.
Also what do you guys think are good plans, ones that actually worked for you and your glad you did it?
-------------------- Everything I say on here is not true, I am an insecure person who lies about doing drugs and stuff to make myself feel good. So any illegal things I may have talked about are all fictional.
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Re: Moving out and being independant [Re: SteelPanther]
#21906794 - 07/06/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well i live at home to I feel it gives me the chance to develop but also surpass childhood things by having a good work ethic and talking to people. It's a mainstream job where people ask what i'm doing with life I respond with sweet nothings. I try and think the world is primative and its my responsibility to not fk up my adult life and help change and innovate, I'm tempted by cars from fast and the furious (as in blowing my savings on such a thing) always loved these cars, but money I make goes in the bank Make bank hold rank. Been taking supplements with mushrooms in them and keeping track of time according to the sun instead of the phone, and also letting the big ideas crash over me and reading big time because of needing to nourish the brain and making positive pathways. I'm looking at buying flippers for swimming just being outside one thing ikeyed into that reminds me of previous trips as well: that once you start to physically change like strength wise even mind wise, you get this sense when you're resting to much and you'll start being readily out there learning and growing more no matter the case because the itch to go expand and such is titillating. This took me years to see and feel and I take a lot of supplements as mentioned they are lube for the brain, as you cant take shrooms every day maybe becus of caust however I really recommend if you've been shrooming in the past to remind yourself of the subtlties of the mushroom by taking in other mushroom species, for the perks like time subjectively tracks way better being healthy can be inparted by working on yourself in time since you get a grip on your own scene and flow. like you might have heard of low dose mushrooms make people notice small changes in the environment but i think all mushrooms cause this you just gotta fathom it. I probably cant develop any of this content, but simplify: read, learn about simple machines and how to describe the, I would recommend fully committing to what your doin like if your swimming keep your head on that and if your working for the dollar do the game.
-------------------- a soul of solitude but a master of ecstacy in waiting for my rebirth cycle i have hopes that when mushrooms find me it will occur then and i can go about the world as a medicine man walking staff in one hand spaceship in the other a journeyman of nature soon to be stepping up to novice hopefully i will have time to become an expert, and i believe only in death will i become a master
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SteelPanther

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Ok that doesn't have much to do with what I was wondering but thanks for the advice. I personally already know and do what your talking about but for those who don't its sound advice. Once you start doing productive things it's like a drug, and it creates a drive for you to keep doing them. I too take lots of health suppliments, I figure the best investment is in myself.
-------------------- Everything I say on here is not true, I am an insecure person who lies about doing drugs and stuff to make myself feel good. So any illegal things I may have talked about are all fictional.
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Re: Moving out and being independant [Re: SteelPanther]
#21908701 - 07/07/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Everyone's situation is unique, we all have different individual goals and expectations with respect to spending versus savings, earnings capacity and recreational desires, and we have different resources available to manifest these goals into reality. I went to university, with the tuition initially paid for by my parents, until my father wanted to dictate my course load, at which point I rejected his financial assistance so that I could pursue my own direction. I did also work in order to have spending money available. Ultimately, I dropped out without a degree to start my own business when I saw an opportunity to do so with a reasonable probability of success. That worked for me, but it may not work for everyone.
There is no doubt that living at home while pursuing a degree can give you a big leg up when it comes to entering the job market with little to no personal debt, where you can begin to leverage your earnings immediately for the things that are important to you (such as a home, perhaps). It's no fun to come out of school living paycheck to paycheck with a mountain of debt nagging at you. However, if you have an oppressive family environment and can't enjoy the experience of your youth while living at home, that's certainly a valid consideration that may lead you to strike a balance between totally conservative financial principles and having more freedom for yourself even though it may end up resulting in some additional debt burden. In any event, the fact that you are asking these questions is a step in the right direction. I wish you luck and good fortune as you create your path!
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Re: Moving out and being independant [Re: geokills]
#21909407 - 07/07/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for the advice and I agree with it. I find it truly sad to even be saying this, but the reason I want to move out and live on my own so much is because of my mother.
rant about my mother below My mother and father don't even love eachother but stay together for some reason, probably finacial mixed with not wanting to get divorced until their kids are older, and not wanting to break up the two families. Both parents have rules but my mother's are rediculous and she has ocd and is very anxious. She can't sleep unless I am in the house, and she has to wake up early for work. She also goes through rediculously insane phases like right now she doesn't allow me to drink any alcohol because "I am addicted and we need to see how long I can go without it" I generally have no more than 2 beers with my dinner.. Its like she just waits to get set off by something, one time, as an adult I went on a walk at night with friends... without telling her we went around my neighborhood. When we returned she was screaming and crazy enough that I told my friends they could just leave and they didn't hesitate. Apparently I snuck out, and god knows what we were doing on that walk.
My friends, and myself also cannot have girls at out house with doors closed. One time she went ballistic because I had two friends over, one had a girlfriend and we had our door closed. She still thinks that we were all doing sexual stuff in my room, the three of us, with one guys girlfriend
To put it simply she is ocd about being a puppet master of my life. She "has" to know what I eat, where I am, what I'm doing, if I have my id on me, if I plan on doing something, if I have gas in the car, why I am 1lb heavier or skinnier than normal, and so on.
She hears a noise in our house and its "what was that" "did you hear that" "was that you" "did you hear that" "didn't you hear that" and to me its batshit crazy to care so much about what the fuck made some little noise, its like who the hell cares.
Very sad is that I found out one time she called her dad who is 77 because she was afraid of me. I can't have my guns in my room anymore because you know I might kill the family, but for some reason I would be incapable of killing a 100lb woman with a knife or even my bare hands
Sorry for the rant, its just one of those things that when I started typing a lot came out.
I honestly often wish my parents would just get divorced because I know my dad dislikes this just as much as me. The only difference is that he is her husband and not her son so she can't take away his stuff or not allow him to do stuff. Our anxiety levels would go completely down, and I bet I would take less drugs, and my dad would drink less. I love my mom is the only problem.
-------------------- Everything I say on here is not true, I am an insecure person who lies about doing drugs and stuff to make myself feel good. So any illegal things I may have talked about are all fictional.
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Re: Moving out and being independant [Re: SteelPanther]
#21909786 - 07/07/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i agree. see noticing that I have drugs and the parents big pharma so the gift of knowing and oneness advent, also you might have heard mushrooms capacity to make personality not absorb negativity the same as those without.
-------------------- a soul of solitude but a master of ecstacy in waiting for my rebirth cycle i have hopes that when mushrooms find me it will occur then and i can go about the world as a medicine man walking staff in one hand spaceship in the other a journeyman of nature soon to be stepping up to novice hopefully i will have time to become an expert, and i believe only in death will i become a master
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stay at home as long as you can. only move out when your parents kick you out, or you just want to be independent. throwing some cash their way if possible is just a common curtisy, if they wont take your money at least try to take care of all your needs so they don't have to. even if tht means paying their bills behind their backs.
I didn't have any plans when I left home other than to just get the hell out of that house. it worked ok, but I got off to a slow start in life financially because of it.
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Edited by trscstghst (07/25/15 06:41 AM)
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Re: Moving out and being independant [Re: trscstghst]
#21997091 - 07/25/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's sorta what I'v been doing. Just living at home but paying for most of all my stuff. Thanks for the input.
-------------------- Everything I say on here is not true, I am an insecure person who lies about doing drugs and stuff to make myself feel good. So any illegal things I may have talked about are all fictional.
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Re: Moving out and being independant [Re: SteelPanther]
#22065824 - 08/09/15 05:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Best off living at home for as long as you can bare it/get kicked out. This will benefit you in saving/paying debts/getting through school/buying a car that won't just go to shit. Basically getting ahead while others are so adamant about being independent and shit. Don't get me wrong, it's very empowering moving out of home.. but do it for the right reasons. Set your future up.. get clean if you aren't.. these are all contributing factors to considering moving out.
Also if you have a partner, don't let them into persuading you into moving out if you are not ready. If they can't see that, that's their own fault, they aren't looking out for your best interests.
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Re: Moving out and being independant [Re: Lachy]
#22069586 - 08/09/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks, thats basically what I figure, its just frustrating at times.
-------------------- Everything I say on here is not true, I am an insecure person who lies about doing drugs and stuff to make myself feel good. So any illegal things I may have talked about are all fictional.
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