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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #21906459 - 07/06/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The problem is that so many of them were welfare state bums who thought they would be taken care of by daddy




Is Antarctica is the only continent not wholly consisting of welfare bums?


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #21906461 - 07/06/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You got a source for this strange ass claim that junkies vote republican?




Nah. Best I could find was a source from 1980 saying that they found no significant correlation between drug use and democrat/republican self-identification. So it was 50/50 just before the reagon era.


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #21906469 - 07/06/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
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zappaisgod said:
The problem is that so many of them were welfare state bums who thought they would be taken care of by daddy




Is Antarctica is the only continent not wholly consisting of welfare bums?




Are you drinking again?


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21906536 - 07/06/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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The Ecstatic said:
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zappaisgod said:
The problem is that so many of them were welfare state bums who thought they would be taken care of by daddy




Is Antarctica is the only continent not wholly consisting of welfare bums?




Are you drinking again?




Actually he's 100% right.

No penguins are on welfare in Antarctica


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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: Patlal]
    #21906604 - 07/06/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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zappaisgod said:
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zappaisgod said:
The problem is that so many of them were welfare state bums who thought they would be taken care of by daddy




Is Antarctica is the only continent not wholly consisting of welfare bums?




Are you drinking again?




Actually he's 100% right.

No penguins are on welfare in Antarctica




Well now hold up here.

There's got to be federal dollars going to penguin research and some of that could be food for the penguins. But even if there isn't, the preservation of their habitat is signficantly influenced by our federal dollars being spent doing research in Antarctica. We're practically subsidizing their housing.


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #21906610 - 07/06/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Well that was wonderfully deranged and delusional.



lol, part/combination CNN, Al Jazeera, and Russian Propaganda.  :starbucks:


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21906682 - 07/06/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Well that was wonderfully deranged and delusional.



lol, part/combination CNN, Al Jazeera, and Russian Propaganda.  :starbucks:





Lol none of which I watch.

But you aren't really qualified to judge anyways.  Admit it, you have no idea about any of that.


Al jazeera is BBC arabic too by the way,  a british network.


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: Shins]
    #21906748 - 07/06/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i was just kidding, Shins.

i still think you have misappropriated information. Russia decided to annex Crimea, and that's all they aimed to do. Crimea is a part of Ukraine, regardless of it's history. they can leave, the Russian identifier's, to Russia if they choose. but instead they throw a fit, so they organize a coup to take over Crimea for Russia, and mock up "rebel's" to throw a counter-offensive to "anti-Crimean forces", so the country can fight against it's own people. then all the militia come out of the woodwork and it's a complete disaster. who shot down that plane, it was Russia.

wasn't it?

the going to the Euro seems to me to be a final straw that broke the camel's back, maybe not per se, but figuratively speaking.


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #21906842 - 07/06/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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zappaisgod said:
The problem is that so many of them were welfare state bums who thought they would be taken care of by daddy




Is Antarctica is the only continent not wholly consisting of welfare bums?




Are you drinking again?




Actually he's 100% right.

No penguins are on welfare in Antarctica




Everyone living In Antarctica is a government employee


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21907030 - 07/06/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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i was just kidding, Shins.

i still think you have misappropriated information. Russia decided to annex Crimea, and that's all they aimed to do. Crimea is a part of Ukraine, regardless of it's history. they can leave, the Russian identifier's, to Russia if they choose. but instead they throw a fit, so they organize a coup to take over Crimea for Russia, and mock up "rebel's" to throw a counter-offensive to "anti-Crimean forces", so the country can fight against it's own people. then all the militia come out of the woodwork and it's a complete disaster. who shot down that plane, it was Russia.

wasn't it?

the going to the Euro seems to me to be a final straw that broke the camel's back, maybe not per se, but figuratively speaking.





Russia did not Annex Ukraine, The NATO EU Kiev junta annexed everything but Crimea.  CrimeA had a referrendum and voted overwhelmingly to succeed to Russia.  The Kiev junta did a mitary coup, they are the annexers.  Ukraine's old legitimate democratic government rejected joining the EU and took Ruisia's deal instead.  In response NATO/EU Supported the overthrow of Ukraine's democratic government,  and even sank to employing flagrant right wing literal nazis because they would support a deal with the EU.

Crimea succeeded to Russia largely because it looked at the coup and saw the writing on the wall.  All of the ethnic russians there feared the kiev nationalist nazi terror squads and seeked out Russias protection.

I'm not "pro Russian"  this is simply what actually happened.


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: Shins]
    #21907082 - 07/06/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

there are people who want to join the EU. your "writing on the wall" analogy is convenient, but it overlooks the people who don't want to split Crimea apart and wish not to secede from Ukraine. let me ask you, are you saying that you think ALL of them are potentially affiliated, whether beknownst to them or not, with the Nationalist junta?


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21907149 - 07/06/15 08:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You don't get to go to the EU for support to overthrow the government in order to join the EU.  Why the hell would anyone want to join the blatantly broken EU anyway? Russia had a better deal and the legitimate government of Ukraine took Russia's deal instead.

So the EU supported the overthrew of Ukraine.  The spark was some very suspicious snipers who opened fire at a protest.  They were most likely EU provocateurs,  there is evidence elements in Ukraine were colluding with the EU for years trying to force Ukraine's enter into the EU.


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: Shins]
    #21907169 - 07/06/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:lolsy:Russia is trashed.  Drunken louts and thugs


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: Shins]
    #21907176 - 07/06/15 09:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

did Ukrainian's take Russia's deal? i mean people, not the government. wasn't there a majority that wanted to join the EU?


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21907184 - 07/06/15 09:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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:lolsy:Russia is trashed.  Drunken louts and thugs





That's an irrational stereotype


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21907200 - 07/06/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The Russian puppet was a kleptocrat that the Ukrainian parliament and people tossed out.  The criminal fled rather than stand trial.  When Putin lost his puppet he invaded the Crimea to usurp yet more oil.

I think it is becoming pretty clear that if you aren't a welfare state you shouldn't join the European Union.  It was an idiot idea.


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: Shins]
    #21907214 - 07/06/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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:lolsy:Russia is trashed.  Drunken louts and thugs





That's an irrational stereotype



There is nothing irrational or stereotypical about it.  It is fact.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/tmt/332164.html

A nation of drunks.


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21907216 - 07/06/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

My old calculus teacher used to say that Russians had square wheels on their planes to keep them awake because they were always wasted as fuck lol.


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21907225 - 07/06/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The Russian puppet was a kleptocrat that the Ukrainian parliament and people tossed out.  The criminal fled rather than stand trial.  When Putin lost his puppet he invaded the Crimea to usurp yet more oil.

I think it is becoming pretty clear that if you aren't a welfare state you shouldn't join the European Union.  It was an idiot idea.



well, things will become evident in the confusion itself eventually Steeps.


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21907249 - 07/06/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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did Ukrainian's take Russia's deal? i mean people, not the government. wasn't there a majority that wanted to join the EU?





Ukraine had an elected government. That government rejected entering the EU and Instead accepted a better deal with Russia. 

There was never a vote to join the EU, any claims that it was a majority are complete misinformation.

The EU armed and suppoted a significantly nazi/ukranian nationalist military coup. The right-wing nationalists would then make up a significant part of the new government.

Crimea is a vast majority of ethnic russians,  it also happens to be an economic power center with lots of oil and a significant Russian naval base.

Now for those who don't understand;  Nationalists hate other ethnicities.  The coup government were fanatic Ukrainian Nationalists,  what does that spell for the ethnic Russians? A bad deal.


So Crimea rejected the EU Supported nationalist junta and instead voted to honor its partnership with Russia,  Ukraine's legitimate democratic government also made a partnership with Russia,  so by best measures, Crimea is way more in line with the Democratic majority of Ukraine.


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