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OfflinePatlal
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Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up * 1
    #21904703 - 07/06/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There is only one solution for Greece and its called austerity. Massive cuts in order to bring back its economy.

They voted no...

Now Germany is pissed off because these assholes wont take responsibility for their own stupid decisions.

Instead they seem to be counting on a bailout from other countries or something... Assholes

What do you think of that attitude?

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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #21904719 - 07/06/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

This American Life did an episode about the euro and about how Greece fucked up. Very educational

http://m.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/455/continental-breakup


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #21904736 - 07/06/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Patlal said:
There is only one solution for Greece and its called austerity. Massive cuts in order to bring back its economy.

They voted no...

Now Germany is pissed off because these assholes wont take responsibility for their own stupid decisions.

Instead they seem to be counting on a bailout from other countries or something... Assholes

What do you think of that attitude?

I





what's that? the welfare state wants to stay on welfare instead of getting a job like everyone else


burn greece to the ground


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: koods]
    #21904754 - 07/06/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think it is a bunch of bullshit that people who loaned money to Greece expect that money to be paid back as agreed. Personally, whenever I borrow money, I try to find a way to fuck my kid into paying it back.

This is the attitude Americans voted for in the last 2 elections. We're next. The sum total of all the gold, silver, platinum, rhodium, and palladium the world has ever mined is worth less than the U.S. National Debt. In fact, if you throw in all the precious metals we know exist but have not mined, it still won't pay the debt.

Think about that - if the United States owned every shred of precious metal that ever was or ever will be mined, it still wouldn't be enough to pay off the National Debt.

I'm not surprised by Greece's attitude at all. The "Let me have it but make someone else pay for it" attitude is why they ass raped Cypress, it's why they're broke now, and it's why they won't make sacrifices to fix the problem.

Sadly, no one will learn anything. :shrug:


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21904757 - 07/06/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Austerity is a failed policy. Europe took took the path of austerity after the 2008 collapse, while the US took on one of stimulus. Which policy worked out better?

Conservative ideology is not the one you want to follow when you need to fix an economy. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #21904766 - 07/06/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The hole argument for austerity was based on one research paper that turned out to be fraudulent. Greece made the right decision. You guys are just butthurt because you can't vote Putin into office for yourselves.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/04/grad-student-who-shook-global-austerity-movement.html


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #21904770 - 07/06/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So the solution to not having enough money is to borrow more money is what you guys are saying.

Holy shit, I didn't think anyone but a politician could think like that.


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: Srirachi] * 1
    #21904774 - 07/06/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Whether you like it or not, government spending has proven to be the best way to recover from economic downturns.


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: Srirachi] * 1
    #21904779 - 07/06/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The world debt-based economy doesn't work. You have a small handful of people (who own the banks / printing presses) forcing economic debt slavery on all of the citizens of Greece, based on decisions that were made by easily-corrupted asshats in their government.

The people of Greece did the right thing by saying "Oxi"

Fuck the IMF, they are truly evil.


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: Srirachi]
    #21904781 - 07/06/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't understand the intricacies of the better plans, but observational evidence supports the idea that austerity clearly doesn't work.


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #21904787 - 07/06/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

People don't like to spend more money to fix a problem even if all the evidence and historical record shows that is exactly how these problems are resolved.


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: koods]
    #21904793 - 07/06/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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koods said:
Whether you like it or not, government spending has proven to be the best way to recover from economic downturns.




It's kind of like giving oxygen to a person who can't breathe well. When they recover they can breath on their own again. When you withhold oxygen, the person either dies or develops chronic problems that end up causing more problems  for everybody else in the long run.


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: koods]
    #21904811 - 07/06/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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koods said:
People don't like to spend more money to fix a problem even if all the evidence and historical record shows that is exactly how these problems are resolved.




At least Russia gets it.


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #21904828 - 07/06/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If Obama didn't stand up to the idiots in congress who insisted we follow Europe into austerity we would have had a double dip recession like Europe.


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #21904830 - 07/06/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Austerity is crippling for economies. The EU wants to impose harsher and harsher austerity measures, and as the Greek people have already seen, austerity does not work.

At least a default and exit from the eurozone will allow the Greeks to take fate into their own hands and for the economy to begin to grow in the future.

Americans and westerners as a whole (like Patlal) tend to have a lack of understanding in the situation and just write it off as the Greeks being lazy and needing to pay their debts, which is more or less impossible at this point due to the substantial amount of debt they've acquired.


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: koods]
    #21904832 - 07/06/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah it's like the Greek people infiltrated wall street to cause a global recession, then forced themselves to pay those same banks billions from their own pockets.

Stupid idiot head Greeks.

http://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/greece-what-you-are-not-being-told-by-the-media/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: Patlal]
    #21904836 - 07/06/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
There is only one solution for Greece and its called austerity. Massive cuts in order to bring back its economy.

They voted no...

Now Germany is pissed off because these assholes wont take responsibility for their own stupid decisions.

Instead they seem to be counting on a bailout from other countries or something... Assholes

What do you think of that attitude?

I




Give me one example where austerity has ever worked. Even the bankers have admitted it's not a solution.

Easier for the banks to blame the populace for their fuckups though


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21904842 - 07/06/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know how you do it, Pris. I'd be so banned...

I'm out. I'm going to go make some money instead of argue with people that believe paying interest is a good way to get rich.


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #21904845 - 07/06/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Private equity was once again at the center of the European crisis. Lending at ridiculously low rates to take advantage of people who just wanted a piece of the dream.


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Re: Greece refuses to take responsibility of their fuck up [Re: Srirachi]
    #21904850 - 07/06/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Srirachi said:
I don't know how you do it, Pris. I'd be so banned...

I'm out. I'm going to go make some money instead of argue with people that believe paying interest is a good way to get rich.




Actually it is really the only way to get rich. Without credit, the only people who can afford to buy something of value are people who are already rich. Credit is the cornerstone of every economy.


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