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Day 3, Quitting Smoking
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It is the begining of day 3 now. I have gone 48+ hours now. I am determined to quit, I have come to a point where enough is enough, id rather smoke mids than cigs, for the health of my lungs.
I keep having thoughts come across me trying to make iccuses for me to smoke. Or making iccuses to why I should wait a while yet before I quit. Fuck that shit, im done.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: shadyy] 1
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Yea, there really isnt any legit iccuses for that for me, its all just bullshit.
I been smoking for almost 2 years straight now (im about 19), and im starting to feel the negative effects on my lungs.
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I'm in the process of quitting myself. It's not bad for the most part but I just get so frustrated about such trivial things now, wonder when that's gonna wear off. I'm a couple weeks in with a few days of slipping up.
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Good luck quitting the cigs man
Perhaps a vape might help you quell the cravings
It most certainly did for me
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I know exactly what you mean. Its amazing the excuses you will tell yourself to keep using nicotine. Fascinating stuff. No other drug that produces "Cravings" for me does this.
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I smoked like 4 packs of cigs last weekend at the festival
They were the first cigs I had smoked in months
The transition back to my vaporizer was completely painless no cravings whatsoever
Now I've been off the cigs again for a week with basically no effort at all
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OhMrJohnson said: I smoked like 4 packs of cigs last weekend at the festival
They were the first cigs I had smoked in months
The transition back to my vaporizer was completely painless no cravings whatsoever
Now I've been off the cigs again for a week with basically no effort at all
I've been thinking about getting one for a minute now. Do you have any recommendations or any educational resources that might help me decide what kind of vape to get? I know pretty much nothing about them
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I started vaping recently, am on day 23 of no cigarettes. It's nice.
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Well you could check out the vaping section of the forums in the user-created forums area there's a ton of info there on all things vaping
But I'd say hit up Shroomism he can give you a much more detailed overview on how to get started and what all to get than I can
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The problem with going into the E-cig Vapers United forum as a noob to vaping is that most of the active members in there are fairly advanced vapers. Most drip, most build their own coils, most DIY juice. It's not really the best place to find info for the absolute beginner. It's a great resource in a lot of ways, specifically if you've got a particular question (+ some follow ups) & want to interact directly with familiar people. Since I'm still getting the general hang of e-cigs, I do most of my reading offsite for dumbed down versions of what I want to know, and then go to E-Cig Vapers United for clarification.
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That is true actually
When I wanted to get into vaping I just PMed Shroomism and he put together a list of everything I needed
But that was long before the vaping forum existed and he's probably sick of giving out advice to noobs lol but perhaps not
I'd give a suggestion but being an advanced vaper myself my knowledge of beginner devices is somewhat obsolete
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OhMrJohnson said: That is true actually
When I wanted to get into vaping I just PMed Shroomism and he put together a list of everything I needed
But that was long before the vaping forum existed and he's probably sick of giving out advice to noobs lol but perhaps not
I'd give a suggestion but being an advanced vaper myself my knowledge of beginner devices is somewhat obsolete
That's what I did on my last upgrade I wonder how many PMs he's gotten over advice on what to get.
As for advice on what to get for OP. I'd suggest just starting off with a tank. Most people seem to outgrow the vape pens in just a couple of weeks. You can always build (or buy premade coils) for higher ohms and less wattage to avoid being put off by giant clouds your first go around.
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I did what you did & ended up getting a setup that's a bit more involved than the average noob, but I'm extremely pleased with it. Not hard to operate, and it completely does the trick.
One of you E-Cig geniuses should sticky up a good guide to getting into vaping as a total rookie, spare shroomism the deluge of PMs. I dunno if a suitable one exists (most of the sort are trying to sell you something and are biased in that direction), so it may have to be a boomtown original.
Still, cig quitters, try the vape. It's easy, fun, and the health benefits become obvious after a few weeks.
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I've considered doing that actually
I'll likely follow up on that idea soon
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The problem with making a thread like that is that the technology is constantly and rapidly evolving. Whatever you post up now, may not even be relevant in a few months. I mean you can explain the principles and what to look for but that doesn't really help the noobs much. I did a lot of reading on ecigs before getting into them and I never really understood any of it until I actually got into it and started getting hands on experience. Saying pen vapes won't produce as much vapor and flavor as a tank just doesn't carry the same weight as being able to use both devices and see the difference for yourself.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Shroomslip]
#21904452 - 07/06/15 08:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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True but if the thread were stickied it could be updated whenever the new technology comes out
I'll work on something
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Almond Flour said: I know exactly what you mean. Its amazing the excuses you will tell yourself to keep using nicotine. Fascinating stuff. No other drug that produces "Cravings" for me does this.
With store baught cigs, its not only 'nicotine' that your addicted to. You can tell by smoking store baught cigs vs RYO no additive tobacco.
Those god damn giant companies add other addictive substances.
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My plan here is to stop smoking cigs, and take up smoking mids again.
Cant do both...
EDIT: I MISS MY OLD SELF, always stoned, high, puffin on that green, ridin around and gettin it. Fuck cigs, lets get trippy mane
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I feel you man. Unfortunately it looks like I have to give up smoking weed as well, at least for now, because it makes this seemingly unexplainable chest pain I've been suffering from for a few weeks worse. Whenever I find out what's wrong with me hopefully I'll be able to return to being high as fuck all the time lol
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Electronic cigarette forum is a great place as eell as underground vaping. Technology does frequently change but unless you really get into as a hobby that shouldn't affect you much.
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Best of luck... I gave up weed and cigarettes after 6 years of daily use. Its a great feeling.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: 2shoes]
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Gotta say, at this point it's much easier to stay away from cigarettes than weed. I just end up rationalizing it in my head and smoking some weed anyway. It's pretty hard to rationalize smoking tobacco. So far today I haven't smoked anything, at least.
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I freak out if I don't smoke a cig at least once every 6 hours. I go full blown meltdown mode and yell and scream about stupid crap because im irritated. I don't really want to stop smoking but when im off probation im done. Now I need to go smoke... Peace.
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thewanderer25 said: I freak out if I don't smoke a cig at least once every 6 hours. I go full blown meltdown mode and yell and scream about stupid crap because im irritated. I don't really want to stop smoking but when im off probation im done. Now I need to go smoke... Peace.
I feel you man. Luckily my habit hasn't been that bad since like early '14; lately (before I quit) I can skip days or wait until half the day is over to start smoking and it doesn't bother me that much. I've also cut down a lot since then. Tobacco is such an annoying addiction, I think the worst part about quitting so far is how much time I spend thinking about smoking cigarettes, knowing full well it's never as good as my mind hypes it up to be.
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OhMrJohnson said: That is true actually
When I wanted to get into vaping I just PMed Shroomism and he put together a list of everything I needed
But that was long before the vaping forum existed and he's probably sick of giving out advice to noobs lol but perhaps not
I'd give a suggestion but being an advanced vaper myself my knowledge of beginner devices is somewhat obsolete
lol. Actually that's some of the reason we set up that forum in the first place. It was getting a bit tiring answering questions left and right and all over the place. (Not that I minded answering you guys' questions at all.. just typing and gathering links over and over gets tiring) Figured a dedicated forum would be a good place for all the vapers to gather and share info and notes and whatnot.
But come to think of it I never set up a "Beginner Guide to Vaping" like I was originally thinking about.
Maybe when I have time. Or I'm sure one of you guys could. But like mentioned, the technology changes and advances every month. What was a good suggestion a few months ago is old news. The post would have to be updated frequently to stay relevant.
All I'd really recommend right now for a noob is the Subox deal. My chick just picked one up when her MVP 2.0 shit the bed.. and damn.. now I want one for on the go vaping. Unfortunately all the killer deals on it seem to be gone now. Best I could find is this: http://www.eciggity.com/kanger-subox-mini-kit/ - coupon code JUL20 for 20% off, making it 56 total. Looks like it JUST went out of stock though. Hopefully the coupon lasts.
OP check out the ecig forum http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/236
Quitting smoking cigarettes with a vape is absolutely downright easy mode and completely painless, if you do it right. I went from smoking 1 1/2 -2 packs a day.. over 17-18 years.... to smoking 0 cigarettes a day, overnight... with a vape, and it was completely effortless and I never looked back.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Shroomism]
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Best of luck! It's so hard. I tried the vape'n thing for 2 weeks I quit then went back now my girl vapes and she's not a smoker lol
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Devon420]
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It's not hard at all if you do it right. Hint: Vape 'pens' and disposable cig-a-likes from the pharmacy/gas station are not doing it right. Most are trash and don't satisfy people who are trying to quit, so it doesn't work.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Shroomism]
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I don't have a clue about vapes but that looks like a nice piece of machinery. Just might have to save up a bit and cop it.
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Yeah the Subox + Subtank Mini would be the best choice for a beginner
That's probably even better than the MVP + Aerotank I started on and I used that thing to quit smoking in a night and it worked like a charm
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Trust me, if you want to get off the cigarettes, it's worth dropping a bit of money on a solid vape from the get. Like shroomism said, it's painless if you do it right. I went from like a pack a day to no cigs overnight with the right vape rig. It's pretty incredible. If you gotta spend 75-80$ to start, so what? What you save in 1-2 weeks on cigs makes you break even. I'm just disappointed that I didnt do this sooner.
Shroomism: convince one of the mods of your forum to write a noob guide. I really like that forum a lot, check it every day, but as a noob that place makes it seem a bit daunting.
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I also think the subox gives you more options if you decide to make it a hobby where as the mvp is pretty limited.
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Well.. you are already on day 3. Most the physical addiction aspect is mostly behind you. But then there's the psychological addiction to deal with.. which lasts 3+ weeks at bare minimum.
I know I quit smoking cold turkey in the past (several times), went a couple months.. and was like fuck it.. I like smoking I'm starting again. The actual addiction was FAR behind me, but I started up again because of the psychological yearning. Vaping replaces that completely. Something that other nicotine replacement therapies, like the patch and gum.. do not do. But I eventually reached a point where I could TELL my health was declining from smoking for so long, and I was spending like fucking $300 a month on cigarettes..
When I started vaping my goal was to gradually lower my nicotine level down to 0%.
But as I got lower and lower in nicotine, I realized I actually love nicotine, and the effects I get from it. Nicotine itself isn't really that harmful, especially in the tiny amounts you get from vaping. It actually has many medical benefits (see my sig). It's all the other shit in cigarettes which kills you. The tar, carbon monoxide, benzene, and numerous other carcinogens.
Also you save a LOT of money in vaping. Well, not really if you are buying new top of the line devices every week like some people. But you can get a really good vape setup to start for around $100-120 (including mod, batteries, charger, replacement coils, juice).. a good mod is an investment that should last a while. Ejuice, it depends where you buy it from and how much you are vaping. But when I was buying premade juice, I was spending about $40 a month on juice.. and that was on mostly "premium juice" That's a far cry from $300 a month on cigarettes.
Now that I make my own juice, that number is easily 10x less. Maybe $5 a month on juice? I haven't really calculated it. But I spent ~$200 on supplies, flavorings, VG/PG and nicotine, glass bottles.. and I've had enough juice to last me over 6 months, INCLUDING making tons of juice for my girl and for my friends, and selling some. Just have to restock on my favorite flavors and VG and nicotine from time to time. But the cost savings are through the fucking roof.
But yeah, vaping is the way to go if you want to make it super easy to get off cigarettes and save some money in the process.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Shroomism]
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Yeah I suggest hanging out in the vaping subforum and get a feel of what you want. It's a great group of people.
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Burke Dennings said: Shroomism: convince one of the mods of your forum to write a noob guide. I really like that forum a lot, check it every day, but as a noob that place makes it seem a bit daunting.
On it
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: ostx]
#21906652 - 07/06/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have a subtank mini with istick 30W
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Shroomism]
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Very well articulated advice. The psychological yearning aspect always ends up drawing me back, even after a couple months of quitting.
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I don't use vape pens from the store. I have an actual vape store rite across the street I have bottle pun bottles and tanks and batteries and coils and all that it's just not the same as a cigg I need that cigg in the morning that's the hardest
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Burke Dennings said: Trust me, if you want to get off the cigarettes, it's worth dropping a bit of money on a solid vape from the get. Like shroomism said, it's painless if you do it right. I went from like a pack a day to no cigs overnight with the right vape rig. It's pretty incredible. If you gotta spend 75-80$ to start, so what? What you save in 1-2 weeks on cigs makes you break even. I'm just disappointed that I didnt do this sooner.
Shroomism: convince one of the mods of your forum to write a noob guide. I really like that forum a lot, check it every day, but as a noob that place makes it seem a bit daunting.
I can get a 1/2 pound of Tobacco and 200 cigarrette tubes/filters for 10$ (which lasts me 1-2months)
I had an a really nice vape i forget what it was called, never cared for them. Plus my whole point is to get off Nicotine and all other addictive chemicals having to do with smoking.
But thanks for the suggestion
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BAM!
THE COMPLETE NOOB'S GUIDE TO VAPING
That's just for starters for now
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said: BAM!
THE COMPLETE NOOB'S GUIDE TO VAPING
That's just for starters for now
Thats sick, good work....can tell you really enjoy the hobby
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Hells yes I do..vaping saves lives And enjoy turning other people on to it.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Shroomism]
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Better watch your back. Eventually big tobacco is gonna realize how much money you cost them and come after you.
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My question: is day three really that difficult for you?
Mind you, my question is completely hippocratic. I still smoke. However, I've smoked since the age of 17 and have "quit" (stopped?) many times from 2 weeks to 25 months.. however, I've never found it to be difficult until day 7 or 10 (and only difficult then due to not being able to sleep). Though, even after a full year of not smoking I still returned. At month 12, I still felt myself "craving"--I truly believe it's a sensation that will never fully go away (also an assumption)--but the cravings were easy to overcome.. it was the not being able to sleep that always got to me.
I can still, to this day, go up to 7-10 days without noticing that I haven't smoked.
Care to share your experiences?
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I've gotten back on the ecig lately, too. I was on it for a long time in the past, but my old one broke. Went back to cigs for a while, then I finally broke down and ordered a new one. No intention of going back to cigs. Hoping to one day get off of nicotine entirely.
Damn though, it feels good to be off cigs even if I'm still on nicotine.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Cynosure]
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It's completely circumstantial for me. I mean day 1 is hell, 2 is a little better, 3 you can kinda start to see the light, but there is any number of things that can happen between day 1 and day 1000 that will drive me right to the store and back to smoking..
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Shroomslip]
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That's intense. I rarely realize days 1-3; if anything at all, I feel more clarity in my day-to-day life.
I've noticed that 'circumstantial', in the sense of stressful situations, has never been a trigger for me.. yet more the feeling of being 'too tired to sleep'. Good to see how others experience it.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Cynosure]
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Trying to quit smoking is absolutely horrible for me. For the most part I've been a pack a day + smoker for the better part of 2 decades. I was highly dependent on them. If I went more than an hour or two without a cigarette I turned into someone you tiptoed around and just generally tried to make yourself as non-existent as possible. If it was a pack of cigarettes or eating that day, I chose the cigarettes.
The physical withdrawal was pretty bad, but the psychological part of it is what really drove up the difficulty for me. When you're already all jittery and nervous feeling, and you throw in "can't go 2 minutes without thinking 'fuck I want a cigarette so bad, just 1 and I'll be okay'" things tend to get pretty difficult. Your will is saying "come on you can do this" and every other single part of you is screaming "why are you putting yourself through this, you can always quit later, no reason to suffer now".
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Shroomslip]
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That surely makes sense! I'm sorry it has been so difficult.. and truly hope that we can both give them up for good. 
I've never been able to smoke more than 8-10 cigarettes a day (even when intoxicated).. I presume it's simply due to my physical limitations as it makes my lungs/throat start to hurt or my stomach will simply reject them by puking; so, even at my worst over the past 10 years, I've never been able to smoke even half a pack a day (American Spirits - dark green/menthol have been my choice for the majority).
It has always been physical for me from weeks 2-6 and then psychological (which is easier for me to handle) after.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: sprinkles]
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If you are trying to quit. I'd just keep going cold turkey. No need to switch one habit for another. Ecigs are still nicotine vapor. I'd say switch to ecigs after you've failed over and over cold turkey.
I know a lot of people who have quit ciggs. Most of my friends used to smoke for years and have quit. There's a select few who have tried to quit and always relapse.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Gorlax]
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I'd be among that number. I've tried to quit well over 20 or 30 times in my life, most attempts last about 2 days. A couple of the rare ones lasted a month or two. Only time I have quit when it wasn't forced (locked up) for a year or so, is when I first got into ecigs. I ended up relapsing because of severe stress, it was only supposed to be that one pack to get me through the next couple of days.
Quit again a little over 2 months ago. Although I really set the bar. I was still regularly using the ecig with 24mg juice while smoking a pack+ a day. Did that for quite a while too. At that point I didn't really feel like the ecig was compensating for the lack of cigarettes. I was just giving up 1 of 2 habits I had, so yeah I felt it. All the ecig did was keep a bit of nicotine in me so I wasn't completely losing it over a lack of cigarettes.
I ended up upgrading to a tank and sub-ohming, then I finally felt satisfaction and now I'm back to where I don't even want cigs. Although for the most part I am still vaping some pretty high leveled juice for a sub-ohm tank. Most people go for 1-6 mg with a lot seemingly feeling like even 6 is too much. I'm doing 12. I'm dialing it back now though.
Ecigs work, if you let them and you get the right set up. I highly recommend them. I don't look at it like trading 1 bad habit for another. There's 0 question in my mind that ecigs are by far the lesser of 2 evils. There's no reason to suffer from quitting unless you just want to.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Shroomslip]
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Yah. It would be the same as replacing smoking weed with vaporizing weed. The latter is healthier but together you are increasing tolerance as a whole.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Gorlax]
#21908546 - 07/07/15 07:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I smoked for 3 years as a young teen and quit around 18 years old. That feeling of "craving" a cigarette never fully goes away. Im 26 now and am back to using tobacco after 8 years being nicotine free.....however I use swedish snus.
You will NEVER walk into a gas station again and never be tempted by those smokes behind the counter. Hell to this day I still find myself wanting some smokes.
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Almond Flour said: I smoked for 3 years as a young teen and quit around 18 years old. That feeling of "craving" a cigarette never fully goes away. Im 26 now and am back to using tobacco after 8 years being nicotine free.....however I use swedish snus.
You will NEVER walk into a gas station again and never be tempted by those smokes behind the counter. Hell to this day I still find myself wanting some smokes.
Lol, I enjoy smoking, and I plan to smoke again for a period of time in my future (hopefully I can make it to a time where I can be a lazy old man).
I am quitting mainly to give my lungs a break for a year or two or MORE.
Day 5 now, doing well. Yesterday was very stressful, some family events took place, went to the store to get a pouch of Red Man Chew, took one tiny dip and holy fuck I dont think ill be getting into that shit. (def not smoking, but stress called for some nico) Sat next to someone who chainsmoked, no issues.
The most difficult step in quitting seems to be DECIDING TO QUIT. (rather than: "im going to try".
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Almond Flour said: I smoked for 3 years as a young teen and quit around 18 years old. That feeling of "craving" a cigarette never fully goes away. Im 26 now and am back to using tobacco after 8 years being nicotine free.....however I use swedish snus.
You will NEVER walk into a gas station again and never be tempted by those smokes behind the counter. Hell to this day I still find myself wanting some smokes.
Lol, I enjoy smoking, and I plan to smoke again for a period of time in my future (hopefully I can make it to a time where I can be a lazy old man).
I am quitting mainly to give my lungs a break for a year or two or MORE.
Day 5 now, doing well. Yesterday was very stressful, some family events took place, went to the store to get a pouch of Red Man Chew, took one tiny dip and holy fuck I dont think ill be getting into that shit. (def not smoking, but stress called for some nico) Sat next to someone who chainsmoked, no issues.
The most difficult step in quitting seems to be DECIDING TO QUIT. (rather than: "im going to try".
I tried 1 pack of chew before. Beech Nut. That stuff is epic! Far too "Outlandish" and "Messy" though to be doing it everyday.
Fun as hell though, tastes amazing too
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So how did this go. Did you quit don't lie!! Lol
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Devon420]
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i've managed to cut out my nicotine addiction, haven't used since counterpoint music festival.
I didn't use a vape to achieve this. If you are trying to remove your addiction, vaping is not the way to go unless you plan on reducing the mg of your e-juice or whatever. If you are still feeding yourself nicotine, you are still feeding the addiction.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: 404]
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I can't speak for anyone else, but I never really intended to cut the nicotine. Put plainly, I wanted to quit smoking in the literal sense, I don't really care about the nicotine addiction. I wanted to get off the cancer sticks that were absolutely wrecking my body and costing me a small fortune. Sure we don't know the long term effects of ecig use, but I can tell you within just a few months of using one you'll regain pretty much all that cigarettes have cost you.
If you can quit it all, then more power to you. Some people can't. I can't. All the benefits I've gotten from switching to an ecig is well worth "just trading one addiction for another".
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Shroomslip]
#21920526 - 07/09/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't get me wrong. I think e-cigs are great for exactly that reason. I'm concidering getting a vape with a low mg content to take to festivals to use when i really just let loose. I'd rather vape than smoke cigs. I could probably do without it at this point but i know how i get sometimes... Plus some of those flavors are super nice especially when youre tripping.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Devon420]
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Devon420 said: So how did this go. Did you quit don't lie!! Lol
Im on day 6. Yea, im good to go. Its def wierd not smoking, with all the time id do it, and the feeling. Kinda wierd, but managable.
Im doin it mane
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Cigarettes piss me off. I dont know what it is that's in them but something subliminal is at work here because it sure isnt the high that keeps me going.
You know what's weird? Quitting cigarettes while quitting everything else...it's like poof..nothing. What do you do? Food sucks, sleep is nonexistant, time stops. Its like waiting on the fucking bus...
I think Ive almost OD'd on coffee 3-4 times since being told to cut the shit, everything, by the Dr. I'm still smoking.
Cigarettes piss me off.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Amanita86]
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I'm sorry for yelling.. I'm good..
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Amanita86]
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Amanita86 said: I'm sorry for yelling.. I'm good..
The hardest part of quiting is deciding to quit.
You cant say "ill try" you just do it, wake up one day with no cigs left, and do things for the next few days that will keep you busy, and just dont fucking smoke. You will think about it once in a while, but if your determined, and youve DECIDED, then no, you wont go and pick up a cig and smoke it.
Its all about willpower, if you have the will to stop, you will. For me, enough was enough. My lungs were begining to feel the negative effects of tar build up (im 19 for fucks sake).
Getting past day 3 then its easy. I simply will not decide to fill my lungs with smoke. (besides dat green ha ah ha)
But I feel you man
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Is this your first time quitting smoking?
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We should get a stop smoking thread going like the quitting mastubating thread was. Atleast then it would be like a game..
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Amanita86]
#21920947 - 07/09/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think asante made one like last year or so.
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Actually fuck it, I quit. I just wrapped up a pack and have a full unopened pack beside me so I know I can always go back if I want. I'll toss that one on my fridge and go burn my last short...
Let's see how long this goes..
God knows I've axe'd a few jobs permanatly with those 4 words.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Amanita86]
#21920977 - 07/09/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Of all my attempts to stop smoking, none has lasted shorter than when I kept a pack of cigarettes around.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Shroomslip]
#21920994 - 07/09/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh really? Damn I just bought these too. I should have read this thread this morning.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Amanita86]
#21921201 - 07/09/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Unless they're some disgusting brand that you never smoke, you're probably gonna be opening that box within 24 hours Nah I can't really say, it's different for everyone. I've personally been able to have cigarettes around and still refrain from smoking for days.
Today's day 7 for me since my last one and like another 7 days before that. So far so good but I have a feeling I'm going to cave soon. Hopefully not though!
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Amanita86]
#21921649 - 07/09/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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404 said: Is this your first time quitting smoking?
Yea pretty much. I only quit one other time and its when I was so sick I couldnt inhale any smoke at all, when I was done sick it was like 2 weeks so I didnt go back to smoking for a few months (back when I was like 16).
But since then Ive been smoking (solid 2 years).
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Amanita86 said: Actually fuck it, I quit. I just wrapped up a pack and have a full unopened pack beside me so I know I can always go back if I want. I'll toss that one on my fridge and go burn my last short...
Let's see how long this goes..
God knows I've axe'd a few jobs permanatly with those 4 words.
You mind will play games with you, trying to come up with excuses for the first 2-3 days. Just tell it no, you can think about it, but just say no, just think about 'filling your lungs with smoke'. Its not as hard as people say, IMO/IME, the hardest part is deciding.
After 2-3 days its not difficult really, just strange cuz you lose a hobby that your used to.
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Smoking can be enjoyable, pleasurable, entertaining, in the moment. But at the same time you are coating your lungs with smoke, building up tar, damaging your entire body. Is it really worth it? When your done with your cig....its gone...and youve just damaged yourself terribly..Was it really worth the quick fix?
Its nice, but its just not fucking worth it. I want to be able to breathe regularly, i want to be able to go and smoke a joint, but I cant, because I smoke cigs (did) and I dont have the capacity for that.
Fuck cigs!
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if this is your first time of your own volition, beware. you may not succeed. some people are able to completely stop after one try, i and many others arent. wish you the best of luck though!
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: 404]
#21922304 - 07/09/15 09:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sometimes I smoke a cigarette at night and say last one for 3 days I got this. I have never gone more than 3 hours I literally feel like im fucked up and out of it if I don't smoke like ever 3 hours. This shit is a struggle fam.
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I used to be the same way
"Oh this is it last cig and I'm gonna quit tomorrow morning"
I've tried quitting like that so many times and it never ever worked in the long run
Not trying to break your spirit or anything but that's my experience with tobacco addiction I think a good quality vaporizer is a great alternative for people like me who tried to quit cold turkey so many times and found that it never worked
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cold turkey worked for me who knows, maybe i'll get really drunk one night and fuck up like i did last time.
op is 6 days deep... i'm rootin' for ya man! the longer you go without nicotine, the more you retrain your brain. if you ever do go to smoke again like months and months down the line, you will remember why you quit and the taste of the cig wont even be any good to you (ive found ime)
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The thing that I miss most about smoking cigs (and the thing that makes it the hardest for me to stay away from cigs) is the excuse to take a 5 minute time out from life. The ability to just sit on a bench somewhere for five minutes and just relax. Look at the trees, the grass, breathe... I miss the smoke breaks themselves way more than I miss the cigs.
I really miss those breaks from life.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: nooneman]
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You're not alone. I got an ecig and I love the damn thing. Have smoke one or two cigs a day or every other day.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: nooneman]
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Its the begining of day 7.
Oh trust me, im not going back, I have an O of shake on order and thats my new thing, I traded it for cigs cuz I cant do both.
Im sure cig addiction is different for everyone, cold turkey may be harder for others than myself, but I apparently am able to do it quite easily. (it was not easy to make the initial decision, or to get to that point, though)
Over time, alot of time (few months) I just slowly became discusted with what i was doing, how i was spending my time, and with myself.
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I really miss those breaks from life.
Like peter griffin?
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My biggest difficulty is after one or two weeks. I start to get proud of my achievement and think I can get away with recreational incidental smoking. Wrong.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: GoldenEye]
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GoldenEye said: My biggest difficulty is after one or two weeks. I start to get proud of my achievement and think I can get away with recreational incidental smoking. Wrong.
lol! Yea Ive already considered that thought. But I know it wouldnt work out for me. Thats why I got a pouch of Red Man, so for special social occasians or a backup if its ever needed, I have it.
Like later tonight my lifelong friend is coming over which I hardly ever get to see. We going to have a drink and chew. (we always used to smoke together)
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I'm off cigs for I think about.. a month now, somehow I still smoke a bogie once a three months when I'm too fucked up.. but I will NEVER, EVER, buy a pack again. For me it's sort of easy to quit, even though the first days feel boring and slow without them.
Fuck cigarettes!!
Enjoy cleaner lungs!
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Hayoxp]
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Hayoxp said: I'm off cigs for I think about.. a month now, somehow I still smoke a bogie once a three months when I'm too fucked up.. but I will NEVER, EVER, buy a pack again. For me it's sort of easy to quit, even though the first days feel boring and slow without them.
Fuck cigarettes!!
Enjoy cleaner lungs! 
Good for you man.
I am curious, how long does it take for you to notice your lungs clear up?
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: 404]
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404 said: cold turkey worked for me who knows, maybe i'll get really drunk one night and fuck up like i did last time.
op is 6 days deep... i'm rootin' for ya man! the longer you go without nicotine, the more you retrain your brain. if you ever do go to smoke again like months and months down the line, you will remember why you quit and the taste of the cig wont even be any good to you (ive found ime)

I really think the addiction to nicotine is distinct from th e addiction to tobacco cigarettes
Sure I vape like a madman all day every day and obviously I'm still addicted to nicotine, but the thing is I never find myself jonesin' for a hit like I used to all the time with cigs, I'm not getting pissed off and moody when I go for a while without my fix.. and with the amount of nicotine in my juice I probably ingest like 2-3 cigarette's worth of nicotine in a day
The point is I tried for years to find a good solution to my cigarette habit and for years I found that nothing worked.. cold turkey, chewing gum, breathmints, Lifesavers, you name it... I always ended up bac on the smoking wagon in time. I know myself well enough to know I've been down that road how many times and nothing ever comes of it
On the other hand I've been vaping since November and have probably only smoked like 3-4 packs of cigs in that entire span of time which is in my opinion a huge win
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404 said: cold turkey worked for me who knows, maybe i'll get really drunk one night and fuck up like i did last time.
op is 6 days deep... i'm rootin' for ya man! the longer you go without nicotine, the more you retrain your brain. if you ever do go to smoke again like months and months down the line, you will remember why you quit and the taste of the cig wont even be any good to you (ive found ime)

I really think the addiction to nicotine is distinct from th e addiction to tobacco cigarettes
Sure I vape like a madman all day every day and obviously I'm still addicted to nicotine, but the thing is I never find myself jonesin' for a hit like I used to all the time with cigs, I'm not getting pissed off and moody when I go for a while without my fix.. and with the amount of nicotine in my juice I probably ingest like 2-3 cigarette's worth of nicotine in a day
The point is I tried for years to find a good solution to my cigarette habit and for years I found that nothing worked.. cold turkey, chewing gum, breathmints, Lifesavers, you name it... I always ended up bac on the smoking wagon in time. I know myself well enough to know I've been down that road how many times and nothing ever comes of it
On the other hand I've been vaping since November and have probably only smoked like 3-4 packs of cigs in that entire span of time which is in my opinion a huge win
Its because they add other addictive chemicals to 'store bought cigarettes'
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I have a feeling that even "additive-free" cigs have other psychoactive/addictive alkaloids besides nicotine. I have done no research to back that up but smoking cigarettes (I usually smoked American Spirits or ryo with organic tobacco) just has an entirely different feel than vaping nicotine IME.
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Cigarettes have thousands of chemicals contained within them dozens of which are known to cause cancer
Ejuice on the other hand generally has only 4 ingredients: PG, VG, nicotine and flavorings
Plus I make my own so it's kind of a spit in the face to the tobacco companies
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hex_enduction said: I have a feeling that even "additive-free" cigs have other psychoactive/addictive alkaloids besides nicotine. I have done no research to back that up but smoking cigarettes (I usually smoked American Spirits or ryo with organic tobacco) just has an entirely different feel than vaping nicotine IME.
Yes but have you tried comparing additive free-RYO to 'store bought packs'?
Completely different IMO, additive free RYO is much less 'satisfying', it seems, because store bought contains other things.
I doubt additive-free Tobacco contains those extra addictive chemicals, thats why they call it additive free. They DONT call store bought packs additive free for a reason.
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Yeah I'm familiar with both. Don't get me wrong, I see the difference between additive free and standard store bought cigarettes, I just think there's just as much difference between additive free cigs and ecigs.
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hex_enduction said: Yeah I'm familiar with both. Don't get me wrong, I see the difference between additive free and standard store bought cigarettes, I just think there's just as much difference between additive free cigs and ecigs.
It could be a personal Carbon addiction. Actual Carbon (burning matter/smoke) can be addicting.
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I'd say 4 months, it's ridiculous how one cigarette really does bring back all the damage. Might as well get reggies-mids and roll em like cigarettes.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Hayoxp]
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Hayoxp said: I'd say 4 months, it's ridiculous how one cigarette really does bring back all the damage. Might as well get reggies-mids and roll em like cigarettes.
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I usually stop smoking when I go to jail for a few weeks. I haven't been in 6 months so I just keep smoking. I dont even like cigarettes all that much its just I cant smoke anything else because im on probation. I figure when im of I will get an e cig with low nicotine and work my way off smoking joints instead.
Before I was on probation it took me a month to get through a pack I would only smoke if I was drunk but now its something I feel I need to do because I have to smoke something and it cant be weed . When im done with probation im done with cigs its just ive grown to love them now.
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Sounds like a fucking excuse dude, cancer is the last shit you want to get. Only now you think it's all good and that you can accept death, but once death is creeping on you so slowly.. you'll understand why you should have quit earlier.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Hayoxp]
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You're preaching to the choir man
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Just hate cigarettes It's literally like smoking death, it gives no high. Perhaps a minimal stimulant effect but its ridiculous how people created these carcinogenic ass addicting cigarettes with so many chemicals in them for other people to smoke. It seems like some sort of a population control, I'm pretty sure the people who own the cigarette companies don't smoke themselves. They live healthy rich lives while people smoke their garbage. They could be selling weed at 10$ per 20 joints, because weed has endless supply, it's a plant just like tobacco.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Hayoxp]
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nooneman said: The thing that I miss most about smoking cigs (and the thing that makes it the hardest for me to stay away from cigs) is the excuse to take a 5 minute time out from life. The ability to just sit on a bench somewhere for five minutes and just relax. Look at the trees, the grass, breathe... I miss the smoke breaks themselves way more than I miss the cigs.
I really miss those breaks from life.
Vaping also allows you those breaks.. without all the carcinogens
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Shroomism]
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I mean I guess that's a point, you kinda gave me some nostalgia, that's the only reason why smoking is so addicting. It's to pause your life's plot.. still cigarettes suck and vaping might be okay.. but I think that vapors cause non-bacterial pneumonia more than cigarettes do.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Hayoxp]
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butts are evil , good on you for trying to quit.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Hayoxp]
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Hayoxp said: Sounds like a fucking excuse dude, cancer is the last shit you want to get. Only now you think it's all good and that you can accept death, but once death is creeping on you so slowly.. you'll understand why you should have quit earlier.
Yea. Its definately something I want to do when im like an old man. Because if ive already lived like 50-60 years, thats all I need, Ill smoke the cancer sticks then.
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Yep basically, once you're 65, you've lived a pretty long life, might as well let loose a bit. Maybe survive until 75
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Well I blew it.. I picked a baaaad time to give this a go. I won't go into detail. Man I'd kill for about 4-5 fingers of whiskey right now..
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Shroomism]
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I've said it once and I'll say it again
Vaping is better than smoking in every way besides ease of use and even then it really doesn't take that much effort to learn how to use a vape
I can almost guarantee that if any of you smokers got a good vape setup with good juice you would love it
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Amanita86]
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Amanita86 said: Well I blew it.. I picked a baaaad time to give this a go. I won't go into detail. Man I'd kill for about 4-5 fingers of whiskey right now..
You've probably lasted longer than I did in any of my attempts when I kept cigarettes around..
I'd say I quit (meant it and was committed to it when I said it) and then in about 4-8 hours I'd be smoking a cigarette. 
Anyone who can keep cigarettes around and not smoke has fucking amazing willpower. I know they exist, my grandmother was one. She smoked for 20 years or more and then one day just decided to quit, didn't throw out her cigarettes or anything either. She actually still held them in between her fingers like she was smoking. That's some damn willpower. If I did that I'd end up lighting it and smoking it out of habit/muscle memory alone.
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Re: Day 3, Quitting Smoking [Re: Amanita86]
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Amanita86 said: Well I blew it.. I picked a baaaad time to give this a go. I won't go into detail. Man I'd kill for about 4-5 fingers of whiskey right now..
When the bad time passes give it another shot
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