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Achillita
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Re: Mushrooms are Safer than Water [Re: pineapple3]
#21888396 - 07/02/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mushrooms are actually safer than marijuana physically. The LD50 is somewhere between 50-80 mg/kg I know you'd have to smoke 15 grams of medically quality weed to reach that. About 3 grams of pure THC. But you have to do it within 15 minutes. You'd probably pass out long before that would ever happen though.
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Coincidentiaoppositorum
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Re: Mushrooms are Safer than Water [Re: Achillita]
#21891501 - 07/03/15 06:49 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cannabis is generally benign.
Daily Mcdonalds is worse for you than regular cannabis use.
Anytime you combust a hydrocarbon it can be carcinogenic, so smoking anything is not healthy, but eating THC in reasonable ammounts shouldn't damage the body.
I guess it comes to responsibility, if you put an outrageous ammount of a substance in your body it can cause damage, but when used properly cannabis should be benign.
-E. Borodin
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nicechrisman said: I've never heard of anyone taking their life because they freaked out from taking water.
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nicechrisman said: So you're telling me OP that you would be more comfortable giving your grandmother a fat dose of mushrooms than a glass of water? Did you know that you will die if you don't drink water? Has anyone ever died from NOT eating mushrooms?
This is not the point man you can die from drinking to much water, it is damn near physically impossible to eat that many mushrooms to die period plain and simple. Not every one eats mushrooms but most people drink water and there have been many casualties. Not the same can be said about mushrooms from over consumption.
100% of people who drink water die. 100% of people who take mushrooms die.
This statement makes sense if you have down syndrome.
You must be at least partially retarded if this doesn't make sense to you.
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Achillita
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Re: Mushrooms are Safer than Water [Re: nicechrisman]
#21891833 - 07/03/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's redundent to say that 100% of people who drink water die, or to say 100% of people who use mushrooms die. Everything dies, people know this. It's the same as if I say 100% of people who drink water were living, and 100% of people who use mushrooms are alive.
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Re: Mushrooms are Safer than Water [Re: Achillita]
#21891840 - 07/03/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's also redundant to make posts about things that have been discussed 100s of times on the Shroomery. Just sayin.
Why don't you make your next post about how unfair it is that the government stifles our psychedelic exploration by making psychedelics illegal?
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Coincidentiaoppositorum said: Cannabis is generally benign.
Daily Mcdonalds is worse for you than regular cannabis use.
Anytime you combust a hydrocarbon it can be carcinogenic, so smoking anything is not healthy, but eating THC in reasonable ammounts shouldn't damage the body.
I guess it comes to responsibility, if you put an outrageous ammount of a substance in your body it can cause damage, but when used properly cannabis should be benign.
-E. Borodin
cannabis is a gateway drug to mcdonald's
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Re: Mushrooms are Safer than Water [Re: Ihateyou]
#21898802 - 07/04/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mushrooms are Safer than Water
Water is one of the most dangerous things out there, and it has nothing to do with the LD50.
You can be boiled, you can drowned, you can dry up without it. A flood can destroy everything you have. You can have water on the brain. If you are unable to drain your bladder it can damage your kidneys. Mushrooms carry none of those dangers.
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Re: Mushrooms are Safer than Water [Re: Universe]
#21899006 - 07/04/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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last time i checked water doesnt significantly increase your heart rate, possibly leading to a cardiac event in someone with a preexisting condition. this thread is bullshit
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Achillita
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Marijuana usually increases your heart rate more than mushrooms can. There has been only a handful(if that) of deaths that are even close to being caused by magic mushrooms.
I looked it up, erowid only has 2 confirmed deaths. One of a seizure(the person had a history of epilepsy) and a person who had a heart attack. That same person had a heart transplant 10 years before. They were smoking marijuana at the time as well, which is honestly another thing which could have caused the heart attack.
But not once have I said that mushrooms do not have dangers. But chances are, they are safer than 90% of the things you do on a daily basis. You're far more likely to die every time you get in your car and drive than you are from magic mushrooms.
The only real danger for using magic mushrooms is eating misidentified mushrooms and then being poisoned. And even that is freaking rare.
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Re: Mushrooms are Safer than Water [Re: Universe] 1
#21900274 - 07/05/15 09:47 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mushrooms are Safer than Water
Water is one of the most dangerous things out there, and it has nothing to do with the LD50.
You can be boiled, you can drowned, you can dry up without it. A flood can destroy everything you have. You can have water on the brain. If you are unable to drain your bladder it can damage your kidneys. Mushrooms carry none of those dangers.
Mushrooms are 90% percent water so they carry 90% of those dangers.
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Re: Mushrooms are Safer than Water [Re: Achillita]
#21900504 - 07/05/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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water is digestible, chitin in mushrooms is not. for instance, if someone with g.i. issues were to consume a large amount of an indigestible material, it could lead to life-threatening complications such as an intestinal blockage.
by "mushrooms" im assuming you are referencing all psilocybin mushrooms. a majority of these are wood-loving fungi which can be a little different from your regular cubensis. they will absorb and concentrate any and all toxins existing in their habitat. i believe a girl in europe died from eating p. cyanesence due to these potential toxins, there was a recorded death.
this thread is really the opposite of harm reduction, instead of addressing potential dangers and problems you are simply ignoring them and implying that others should do the same.
thats like if someone whos never tripped before made a thread asking if he should lemon tek an ounce for his first time, instead of even suggesting there might be a possible problem, just saying "ya bro they're safer then water have fun"
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Achillita
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I'm not saying that they don't have dangers. And because they are physically safer than water doesn't change the extreme effects they have mentally and emotionally. This thread was not made to say you can do however many mushrooms you want and have good time.
The thing is, physically they are safe. And there was a death for a small girl in 1962, from eating mushrooms that were later identified as P cyanescens. But she died 3 days after in the hospital. Most likely from poisonous gallerinas that can grow right next to cyans and not the cyans themselves. Plus she was a small child!
That being said cyans can contain toxins depending on the wood they grow in, but most cases notice nothing more than some temporary facial paralysis. So we have 3 deaths possibly from the ingestion of magic mushrooms, out of millions upon millions of times mushrooms have been used.
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Re: Mushrooms are Safer than Water [Re: Achillita]
#21904052 - 07/06/15 05:16 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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https://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_death.shtml
Mushroom death (erowid)
All of these cases are murky.
-E. Borodin
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