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Anonymous #1

Mail Orders
    #21903336 - 07/05/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm on probation and thinking about using a rental mailbox service in another state in order to obtain something that I cannot get in this state legally. What do you think of the feasibility of this?


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Anonymous #2

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #21903348 - 07/05/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Driving hundreds of miles just to pick up mail... sucks.

But doable. Make sure you have proof that you live in the city/state where you get the mailbox (they 'may' ask).


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Anonymous #3

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #21903486 - 07/05/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Just pay extra for super stealth?


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Anonymous #4

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #21904284 - 07/06/15 07:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well it's up to you to decide if anything is really worth all that hassle.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #21904461 - 07/06/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

whats super stealth?


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Anonymous #2

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #21906566 - 07/06/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Your new Russian bride is going to be pissed if she has to wait for you at a post office in another state!


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #21908090 - 07/07/15 01:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds like a lot of extra hassle with little, if any, extra reward. You should try to find someone who ships right to you. Idk where u r or wut ur ordering but I've ordered things that the company claimed they did not ship to my region and received it all the same.

U work in a warehouse and an order comes in, you fill it and ship it, you don't investigate and look for ways not to complete the order, usually that is how I would ass.ume it goes down


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Anonymous #6

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21912755 - 07/07/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah dude sounds like a hassle unless your real close to that other state.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #21915615 - 07/08/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Are you even allowed to leave the state when your on probation?

When I was on probation I had to get any traveling I wanted to do cleared with my PO first.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #21915836 - 07/08/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #7 said:
Are you even allowed to leave the state when your on probation?

When I was on probation I had to get any traveling I wanted to do cleared with my PO first.




Yes your suppose to get any trips out of your county cleared with your PO, but obviously since he's ordering something illegal he isn't too concerned with the 'rules' of probation.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #4] * 1
    #21915844 - 07/08/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've done it before.


just say you're moving to the area, and want to have a mailing address there before you nail down a place.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #21916126 - 07/08/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #4 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #7 said:
Are you even allowed to leave the state when your on probation?

When I was on probation I had to get any traveling I wanted to do cleared with my PO first.




Yes your suppose to get any trips out of your county cleared with your PO, but obviously since he's ordering something illegal he isn't too concerned with the 'rules' of probation.




Yeah hopefully where he plans to go doesnt have a check point or he doesnt get pulled over.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #21916142 - 07/08/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

they still can't open your mail without a warrant.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #21916285 - 07/08/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, but being out of state with out reporting it to your PO is a violation. When I was on probation the first two things were not to get into any more trouble, and do not leave the state with out permission.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #21916359 - 07/08/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

ah, forgot about that part.


I mean, if you're trying to get ahold of what I think you're trying to get ahold of while on probation, I think leaving the state is the least of your concerns.


They have the right to search your house at any time without notice, which bad news.


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Anonymous #9

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #21916719 - 07/08/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
I'm on probation and thinking about using a rental mailbox service in another state in order to obtain something that I cannot get in this state legally. What do you think of the feasibility of this?



Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
I'm on probation and thinking about using a rental mailbox service in another state in order to obtain something that I cannot get in this state legally. What do you think of the feasibility of this?




You are on probation. Be a model citizen until you are off. Then do all the "Unmentionables" you want


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Anonymous #10

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #21917053 - 07/08/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Last thing you want is a surprise visit from a bunch of Feds


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #21917430 - 07/08/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There is no way his PO is going to know he is traveling anywhere unless he tells them. I doubt he is is complying with his probation anyway.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21917490 - 07/08/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #5 said:
There is no way his PO is going to know he is traveling anywhere unless he tells them. I doubt he is is complying with his probation anyway.



Or if he gets pulled over across state lines.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #21917537 - 07/08/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Even still how would anyone know, unless he was arrested for something and couldn't make bail?


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Anonymous #7

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21917545 - 07/08/15 11:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

when they run your name it comes back that your on probation, and they may contact your PO, they dont have to but depending on why you were pulled over they might. Being that your in a different state they may follow up with your PO to make sure that they are aware you were out of state.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #21917574 - 07/08/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Lol. Sorry. What makes u think that the probation is going to show up in another state if the run his l assuming it is valid?


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Anonymous #7

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21917589 - 07/09/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well considering all your arrests and warrants show up in other states, your probation/parole will be listed as well.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #21917597 - 07/09/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They r not running a high level Lexus nexus check on him, lol


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Anonymous #7

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21917604 - 07/09/15 12:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Its not a high level check, when they call in your info when you get stopped all that shows up.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21917627 - 07/09/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's standard procedure for them to run your id into their computer. It definitely tells them you're on probation and it's likely they will make sure you're not violating it. Not to mention the fact on probation they can demand to search your car just like your PO could. And since he's on probation he has no right to refuse. No package is worth all the risk IMO.


Edited by Anonymous (07/09/15 12:19 AM)


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #21917628 - 07/09/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Not from another state, if he gets stopped for anything minor the only thing that's getting checked is if his license is valid, now if he is getting stopped due to a drug investigation they may check a little deeper.
However regardless of the checking and extent thereof,  the probation doesn't mean shit and is not enforceable from the second state.


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Anonymous #10

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21917631 - 07/09/15 12:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They always run your name and if you're on probation it's going to pop up with that and the terms of your probation you have to follow. So yea he's fucked if he gets pulled over.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21917635 - 07/09/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Probation very much shows up in another state, its in the data base and pretty much every state uses it, when i was stopped with my friend driving in another state my probation showed up(my PO knew i was there). However he didnt call my PO cause i wasnt doing anything wrong or even driving the car. When you get stopped they look up the following: Driving Status, Probation or Parole Status, Caution Indicators and Warrant Status


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #21917641 - 07/09/15 12:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No no, nothing is fucked, it depends what his probation is for first off. And if he is in another state nothing is going to show up. Cops are stupid for the most part, and most traffic cops r purely retarded anyhow, I don't think op should worry.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21917643 - 07/09/15 12:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There r no guarantees. But for the most part he has nothing to worry about. Chances are he's not going to get stock anyhow.


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Anonymous #10

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21917654 - 07/09/15 12:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So I could be on serious felony probation and just drive off into another state, get pulled over and they wouldn't know I ever left. I don't think so, it pulls up all your info no matter what State you're in. That's how thy catch certain violations and warrants and what not


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Anonymous #7

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21917661 - 07/09/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

lol that"s like saying if you have a warrant and you move it will no longer show up. Its all entered in the same database. Your probation will show up, mine showed up in a different state and it was for a very minor misdemeanor charge.  Traffic cops might be dumb but dispatch is the one looking up all your info to relay to the cop to protect them, so trust me they will be notified if you have a history of running, carrying weapons, violence, warrants, parole probation, etc.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #21917668 - 07/09/15 12:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #7 said:
Probation very much shows up in another state, its in the data base and pretty much every state uses it.

When you get stopped they look up the following: Driving Status, Probation or Parole Status, Caution Indicators and Warrant Status




This is fact.



Edited by Anonymous (07/09/15 12:36 AM)


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #21917701 - 07/09/15 12:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I guess no one read the part about me saying it depends on what he is on probatin for.  Also wut depends on who he is on probation with. If its something serious then it very well may show up, not that the cops would do anything or that his PO would ever find out. If it's something minor it won't show up.
No one said anything about active warrants.:tard:


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Anonymous #7

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21917705 - 07/09/15 12:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

and i guess you didnt read the part where i stated my probation for a minor misdemeanor charge showed up in another state. Fact is if its in the data base no matter how minor it will show up


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #21917712 - 07/09/15 12:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Minor misdemeanors do not carry probation status as part of their punishment, therefore I can only assume everything you say is suspect. I'm sorry but I will no longer be able to respond to anything else say in this thread.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21917731 - 07/09/15 01:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

lol finally got tired of being proven wrong, and yes class b misdemeanor carries probation. I dont even count class c misdemeanors as being in trouble cause those just result in fines.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #21917747 - 07/09/15 01:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Lol u posting something and saying its fact does not make it a fact. I would consult with my attorney if I were the op, I damn sure wouldn't be asking you jokers about it.

:lolsy:


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Anonymous #7

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21917758 - 07/09/15 01:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

lol, the guy who doesnt think anything follows you calling everyone else jokers. thats comedy


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #21917761 - 07/09/15 01:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #7 said:
lol finally got tired of being proven wrong, and yes class b misdemeanor carries probation. I dont even count class c misdemeanors as being in trouble cause those just result in fines.



Quote:

Anonymous #7 said:
and i guess you didnt read the part where i stated my probation for a minor misdemeanor charge showed up in another state. Fact is if its in the data base no matter how minor it will show up



I would hardly call a class b minor, you could b jailed as well as probation for that.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21917768 - 07/09/15 01:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know wut state ur in, but class b in some states can get u six months


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Anonymous #7

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21917777 - 07/09/15 01:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

depending on the charge yes you can be jailed. But the charge i had was nothing violent or ridiculous it was a minor charge that i feel should have been a class c, but according to the law its classified as a B


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #21917803 - 07/09/15 01:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ya because some people that meet :hansen: plead there case down to a class b. :pedobear:


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Anonymous #7

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21917807 - 07/09/15 01:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I wouldnt know anything about that, seems like you know a lot about it though. so ill take your word


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #21917823 - 07/09/15 01:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

All I'm saying as convictions go class b is hardly minor.
I also said nothing about not showing up. I said the likelyhood of anyone finding out is small.

Say your on paper in California for a class b theft of a 40oz. Or a case o 4ds or whatever other class c felony u plead down to a class b misdemeanor probation bullshit. And part of your probation is you're not allowed to leave your city without asking, do you really think if you get stopped in some hick backwater Kentucky Berg they are going to receive and relay all of that information to the patrol officer who stops you, o that they will relay all the b******* information about your misdemeanor probation along with the valadity of your licensinces?
Possible not likely. Do you think that the cops are going to be like oh well hold on I better hold you and get a hold of your probation officer and see what he has to say about this?
Don't be unrealistically afraid. It's not helping anyone


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Anonymous #11

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21917826 - 07/09/15 01:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Agian stupid :lol:


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Anonymous #7

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #21917831 - 07/09/15 02:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes that information will show up when they stop you, are they going to hold you to contact your PO not at all. They can chose to contact your PO at their will. As posted before when you get stopped they look up the following: Driving Status, Probation or Parole Status, Caution Indicators and Warrant Status.

Dont be stupid and give bad advice its not helping anyone. saying that its not going to show up is ridiculous. All the systems are linked together how do you think they find out people have warrants in other states when they get stopped.


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Anonymous #11

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #21917835 - 07/09/15 02:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Exactly,  and most cops are dicks so you should expect they would,  sinse you have alot to lose :lol:


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #21917836 - 07/09/15 02:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Probation and active warrants r 2 totally different things.  Did u order ur spores from the. Keeper or what?


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Anonymous #7

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21917840 - 07/09/15 02:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

the point is it all goes into the same system. You cant seem to grasp that simple concept. All your criminal history, warrants, current probation/parole are all in that system which will be pulled up when the cops run your name.


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Anonymous #11

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #21917844 - 07/09/15 02:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

But doesn't it eventually disappear after X amount of years?  Or only if you apply for pardon?


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Anonymous #10

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #21917856 - 07/09/15 02:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's only going to pull up active probation and warrants. All past stuff will be accounted for in court


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Anonymous #4

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #21917863 - 07/09/15 02:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #11 said:
But doesn't it eventually disappear after X amount of years?  Or only if you apply for pardon?



That's if you're charged as a minor and then turn 18 you can go to court to request to have your record expunged or sealed or whatever. As far as I know there is no way to have criminal history removed or hidden if the crime was committed as an adult.


Edited by Anonymous (07/09/15 02:26 AM)


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Anonymous #11

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #21917864 - 07/09/15 02:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ummmm no,  if you are convicted of a crime it will show up on your record,  probation /parole or not


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #21919837 - 07/09/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #7 said:
the point is it all goes into the same system. You cant seem to grasp that simple concept. All your criminal history, warrants, current probation/parole are all in that system which will be pulled up when the cops run your name.




U seem to think there is some type of blanket system that works great withthout fail. You keep thinking that. Unless that has changed recently I know for a fact that itdoes not work in this manner


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Anonymous #11

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21920029 - 07/09/15 01:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

When you have alot to lose,  you should account that it would be there. You can't just hope it won't show up or whatever bullshit your saying


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Anonymous #11

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #21920083 - 07/09/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Op just pay someone to pick it up for you, or don't do it,  it's not worth the risk


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #21921831 - 07/09/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #11 said:
When you have alot to lose,  you should account that it would be there. You can't just hope it won't show up or whatever bullshit your saying





I guess your missing my point. The point is is that there is no way of knowing,  ands that either way if he is in another state he need not worry about his PO because obviously it's going to be the least of his worries if he gets jammed up.

Also to completely spell it out for those that are having troubles with the compression of my idea's,  my advice was to get it shipped closer to home and also I should throw in, don't use a fake name to your grandmas House,  she has lived there 60 years and The postman won't deliver a package to Miles O'Toole, unless of course that is your grandfather


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Anonymous #11

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21921880 - 07/09/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So your basically saying try it in hopes nothing goes wrong or he doesn't get pulled over... BAD ADVICE


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #21922174 - 07/09/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No. R e a d. I t. a g a I n.

I said get whatever it is mailed to a trusted location close to the house.

Your interpretation is wrong. 100% incorrect.

The only one in this thread who has any "good" advice was Annon #9.

And in my opinion paying someone to pick it up would probably b the stupidest way he could move forward with this scenario.


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Anonymous #11

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #21922364 - 07/09/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Wasn't the point in getting it mailed out of state because it's illegal in his state?  And I don't think paying a trusted friend would heaty at all


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Anonymous #5

Re: Mail Orders [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #21922494 - 07/09/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)




OP should watch this


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