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Re: The endless frustration with Drugs. [Re: Shroomism]
#21902569 - 07/05/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree with this man. 100%
I've seen this first hand.
Lady allows her baby to drowned in a bath tub and gets 6 months in Huber. Man rapes a little girl and gets 1 year in jail. Girl get caught with less than an oz of marijuana and gets 3 years. and 10 years on probation.
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Re: The endless frustration with Drugs. [Re: akira_akuma]
#21902573 - 07/05/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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This made me laugh! :::)
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Re: The endless frustration with Drugs. [Re: MagicFingers]
#21902576 - 07/05/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i agree with this man too, he's my favorite advertisement here, Shroomism for Admin 2016!
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Re: The endless frustration with Drugs. [Re: MagicFingers]
#21902583 - 07/05/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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MagicFingers said: This made me laugh! :::)
my contrarian poking made Shroomism indulge us with his knowledgeable responses, and anti-anti drug rhetoric and his philosophy is sound, so it was worth it altogether.
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Re: The endless frustration with Drugs. [Re: MagicFingers]
#21902598 - 07/05/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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But on the real, the chick you are with sounds like a barrel full of problems, drugs aside. Red flags... red flags everywhere. Child support and stealing to get it? Let me guess she spends all her money on drugs that she should be spending on her kid? Where's the baby's daddy? If she's stealing for child support.. that means she's either spending the child support, or he's not paying it.. which it would either be taken from his wages or he would be in jail. Either way this chick sounds a freight train wreck waiting to happen and you are along for the ride. Sounds like you want to fix her... good luck with that... You can't hold yourself responsible for other people's bad choices... that usually just ends in turmoil.
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Re: The endless frustration with Drugs. [Re: Shroomism]
#21902646 - 07/05/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh man... its a long story.
She is a RED FLAG. Right from the beginning I told myself not to get involved. But she asked me to stick around so I gave her a chance. Knowing I should not get involved.
She just got out of jail so getting a job was near impossible with her record (excuses if you ask me). Her ex husband would spend all his money on dope and say they could save money by selling half of it. But he would use all of it within a few days. So in her past she had to steal to survive. So it was a natural thing for her to do to get money. She isn't able to make child support payments and of course is getting letters with threats.
Her ex husband is in prison. He was setup for a heroin bust and went down hard. His mother has the kid. She had the kid a few months before she was sent to jail. Was never allowed to see him until she got out.
If you put it into perspective. She was doing the best she had ever done in her life. She never wanted to try. Ever. This was the first time in her life she wanted to get out of the hell hole. When she relapsed she bounced back quick and didn't get back into it for many months. It wasn't until recent where her manic problems caused her to go back. She wasn't into it for more than 2 weeks before this recent theft incident. I already knew something was up...and found her needle in my car. But I obviously already saw the signs.
This is her last chance to prove herself that she deserves a real life.
She really is a beautiful person that took the wrong path.
Yes... my problem is trying to "fix" her. But I also know I can't do it. She needs to fix herself. So we will see how it goes. I'm going to give her my all. But if she goes back to the needle. It is definitely over.
I appreciate the input.
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Re: The endless frustration with Drugs. [Re: MagicFingers]
#21902702 - 07/05/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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MagicFingers said: This is my first post in The Pub. I think this concept is pretty neat. I'm not a very social person but thinking of it as a "pub" for discussion with experienced individuals is pretty cool.
I think the main reason I am posting this is because I would like to get others point of view on the subject. My judgement is jaded in its own way. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe not? Aside from that I'm sure I mainly just want to vent. This may be a DL;DR. But if you are willing to read it. Please, comment and let me know what you think.
When I was young, I was grown up to believe that drugs are Bad. I was brainwashed in fear that I would lead a life that would contribute to self destruction through substance abuse. I understand what they were trying to do. I'm just not sure that the DARE program worked very well. Fear is never a good tool...
It wasn't until high school that I started to be a little more open minded. I liked a girl that said she smoked some pot. So that sparked my interest. I decided to try it and contacted a friend who could get some. We tried it and I had a great experience. It allowed me to break out of my shell and be more social. It helped me with my depression issues that I had from a very young age. So at this point in my life I thought... maybe drugs are not so bad.
Next came the alcohol. I did not enjoy any part of it to be honest. The taste was unbearable. The experience was not worth the negative experiences. So I stayed away from it for most of my life. (It hasn't been until recent years that I may have a few on an occasion). Growing up with friends drinking only made my perspective on alcohol that much worse. It has never been a constructive substance for anyone that I know. I understand that it has helped people be more social. But it has always led to bad situations.
My friends in high school experimented with random things. I was intrigued but I really didn't want to be careless about my substance use. Which i find to be the norm for most. I'm not sure if that is drawn from various things in their life. But for me, I would always research before I would do anything. (erowid.org) *even at 16 years old I wanted to be knowledgeable about what I was doing* Why? Because I didn't want to cause any form of grief in my life. May that be brain damage, health issues, family problems, law issues, etc. I suppose it is because I always wanted to avoid issues.
I had no interest in just trying... anything. But I had tried adderal and thought it helped me stay focused but gave me a gross feeling coming down. I thought it was interesting but wasn't worth the money. I had tried DXM. I drank a bottle(only one) and it made me feel drunk and I couldn't keep my eyes open... I regret doing it. I tried taking pain meds. By far the most disgusting feeling I've ever had. I never wanted to take pain meds for anything ever again after that experience. I tried a bit of cocaine with a friend. We were trying to get some pot and all they had was cocaine so we decided to try it. In all honestly, it wasn't a bad experience. But at the price and knowing the high addiction possibilities I decided to stay away from it.
Finally, I was introduced to mushrooms. I was very intrigued. I had never tried a "psychedelic". So I did my normal research and found out it could be a good and/or bad experience. Knowing that the addiction possibility was pretty much zero I decided to try it. Obviously, it was a mind opening experience. I saw life in a whole new light. I wanted to be a more optimistic person. I wanted to be a positive influence on my friends. I wanted to be more social with my family. At this point in my life I thought. Maybe all drugs have a positive purpose.
Eventually, my friend came back from an underground festival and said I had to go. Explained he had some a crazy amount of drugs and had a blast.
My first festival was a bit frightening. I was confused. How could there be so many people on psychedelics and no police interaction? I decided to try some LSD. Overall, was a fun experience. Similar to mushrooms but definitely its own thing. At this point a lot of people were using ecstasy. Once again I didn't want to get involved without knowing more about it. After doing a lot of research I decided it was not a good idea. The potential for brain damage was nothing I wanted to get involved with. It wasn't until many years later that I finally tried it at a festival and learned that it could be used for a good purpose. But 99% of the people using it... abuse it so much that they permanently cause damage. Even to this day I am torn on this substance. It has so much potential in helping people. But I've seen some things that changed it to a bitter sweet for me.
Lets fast-forward to today. I still smoke pot. I think it has its place. I think it had caused some motivation issues for me. Aside from that, it still helps with depression. It can cause anxiety. But at other times make it go away. I feel this is the one substance that has done the least damage for most people that use anything.
Now, for the fun part. A year ago I met this girl that recently got out of prison. She was sent in for a felony case with pot. Obviously, she had other things in her life that led up to that point. This is what I learned about her...
Her mother was a drug addict. For the most part she drank a ton of alcohol and smoked a lot of crack. Her mother would have had 10 children. She had 6, aborted 2, and the rest were miscarriages. When this girl was born her stomach was bloated from screaming so much from inside womb. This was from her mother smoking crack. She was born addicted... one of her possible fathers took her when she was 5 where she was neglected, physically, and sexually abused. Her sister died from lung disese when she was 11. Her mother showed her a crack pipe when she was 13. At the same time showed her how to make it. In high school she got involved with every possible drug you could encounter. She sold it.. and did everything. She was angry at the world. Angry at why her mother chose drugs over her. Didn't care about anything other than getting faded. She eventually meets a guy that had similar interest. Which lead her to doing heroin.... and we all know what the leads to. Her whole world revolved around putting a needle in her arm. She then gets in trouble with the law and loses everything. (short version) Her husband divorces her while she is in jail for an 18 year old. Gets set up and sent to prison for 9 years.
So this girl gets out of jail and somehow stumbles into my life. The whole thing is staggering. I knew from the start that I should NOT get involved with this girl. I know she is emotionally damaged. Someone who has gotten into opiates is pretty much a lost cause it seems. But what did I do?
The passion and love inside me could not let this girl go. Her personality is like a beautiful light. She has so much energy and optimism. For whatever reason she found an attraction in me. Obviously, someone almost the exact opposite of her. She asks me to stay...and be with her. So a year ago I decided to give it a go.
Since then she has relapsed 3 times. Almost to the point of losing her son. Just went back to jail for theft trying to get money for child support and ...of course opiates.
Tomorrow is her court date. Her preliminary hearing wants to give her drug court. But she could get revoked. She could have to sit longer. She could just get a fine...or maybe even time served... and I stay. I stay because I even in the darkest moments I feel there is still hope. Am I wrong? Should I be here?
Mushrooms has helped me open my eyes. I see that all substances have their place and can help people. However, I see so many individuals that are so focused on "lets get fucked up!". I honestly wish people would understand that there is more to life than getting faded.
I understand that my hate for drugs is jaded. Am I wrong to have a intense hatred for most drugs? Don't get me wrong. I love pot, I love mushrooms. I'll take LSD on occasion. I'll take ecstasy on occasion. I may have a few drinks here and there. But I will not try anything anymore. I am done.
This is kinda how my perspective has changed through the years.
Drugs are BAD> Maybe drugs aren't so bad > Drugs are fun! > All drugs have a purpose > A lot of drugs are not for me > I need to moderate what I do > I don't like a lot of drugs > I really hate most drugs, especially certain ones.
Am I wrong? Should I be more open minded? I understand my point of view is jaded.
In the end of all of this. I think the point is I have always been the responsible one. I've always felt everyone else should do the same thing because of fear. I then found exactly why I had that fear and it solidified those fears.
I wish for anyone that has had substance problems the best! If you are at a point in life that you feel like you need help. Reach out to your loved ones and do what you need to do. Be strong and put faith in the idea that life can be good without always using something.
Wish me luck.
P.S. Mushrooms are awesome! I truly feel they can be used for helping people. There are endless studies that show mushrooms can significantly help people. (even with the bad experiences I have seen)
Why all this confusion in your mind? It usually stems from own life issues, maybe own abuse of drugs?
Maybe you don't moderate your cannabis or mushrooms enough?
Maybe you attract bad people into your life, due to your drug usage?
Weed can sometimes attract certain people into people's lives, people who do heroin, cocaine, more people who do weed etc.
You must be who you want to meet
It is probably not a coincidence you meet a girl that did crack, because you probably met her in a "drug environment"
So it is your actions that caused you to meet her
Maybe get her out of your life politely and sober up yourself?
When you meet people with so many problems and even think of making them your gf, you got severe life issues usually You are too open to try drugs likely..
Weed does that, now only drugs are important, weed is the best thing in the world they say
Suddenly they want to try cocaine, mdma,...
Because weed makes people anarchists, f*** the law, I make my own rules who needs an education? who needs to pay taxes?
etc.. Watch out for overuse of the "harmless weed" , I haven't seen anyone benefit from it yet
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Re: The endless frustration with Drugs. [Re: lessismore]
#21902777 - 07/05/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why all this confusion in your mind? It usually stems from own life issues, maybe own abuse of drugs?
- I used to smoke a lot more pot when I was younger. But honestly I don't really use much of anything anymore aside from that. I may have like a bowl or two a day at most.
Maybe you don't moderate your cannabis or mushrooms enough?
- I moderate pretty well I think. I do mushrooms maybe 2-3 times a year. Even with cultivation I have no issues waiting for a special occasion. I usually won't do anything else unless it is at a festival.
Maybe you attract bad people into your life, due to your drug usage?
Weed can sometimes attract certain people into people's lives, people who do heroin, cocaine, more people who do weed etc.
- I think in this case. Be smoking pot did influence her interest in me. However, when we first met she was more intrigued by how I had no interest in doing drugs. She wanted to stay clean and needed positive influences.
You must be who you want to meet
It is probably not a coincidence you meet a girl that did crack, because you probably met her in a "drug environment"
- I know a lot of people that use various drugs. But I don't get involved with those that mess with opiates, or crack. I don't live in a city so I don't get a lot of exposure to a lot of stuff. But I have friends with do cocaine, adderal, xannax, drink a ton, etc. I just don't get involved with it.
So it is your actions that caused you to meet her
Maybe get her out of your life politely and sober up yourself?
- Truth is. I am quitting smoking. I may do mushrooms on a special occasion but I don't think it will be anytime soon. I haven't been able to afford pot for the past 4 weeks so it's not like it really matters that much right now.
When you meet people with so many problems and even think of making them your gf, you got severe life issues usually You are too open to try drugs likely..
- As mentioned before. I already do it was bad news and wasnt going to get involved. It wasnt until she asked me to. So I decided to give her a chance. On a side note. I have never done heroin, crack, meth, and pretty much anything I haven't mentioned in these posts. I also have no interest in any of it. I would be more than happy if all of those things I just mentioned never existed.
Weed does that, now only drugs are important, weed is the best thing in the world they say
Suddenly they want to try cocaine, mdma,...
Because weed makes people anarchists, f*** the law, I make my own rules who needs an education? who needs to pay taxes?
etc.. Watch out for overuse of the "harmless weed" , I haven't seen anyone benefit from it yet
- In all honesty. You sound like a cop. Who is just as jaded in your own views. I at least educate myself. /color]
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