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Mescalitoe
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Seizure while on mushrooms.
#21902126 - 07/05/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey everyone, hope you guys are having a wonderful weekend. As we all know yesterday was the 4th of July, and like many others I wanted to have a blast and trip while I lose myself to all the fireworks.
I was with my cousin who is 18 years of age, and I am 21. It was about 7pm when I took 3G dry and he took 1.5g because it was his second trip on mushrooms. We lemon tek our doses and we were on my roof drinking/smoking. We were just having a blast laying in my roof looking down at our city and all the fireworks. At about 10 or 11 things were getting a bit overwhelming for me and I decided we should get off the roof, go to my room and listen to some tunes while watching this 4 hour fractal DVD that I own.
I throw it on and 10 minutes into the video my cousin collapses from his chair, I run and turn on the light when I noticed his whole body tense up and he started shaking or convulsing like if he was having a seizure. I held him in my arms crying while he was shaking, after about 1 minute he layed still and started blinking and asked what happened. I made him drink a lot of fluids and pedialyte thinking dehydration caused this problem but I just don't know. I was scared for the next 4 hours.
I feel a bit traumatized, just needed to vent a bit. Has this ever happened to anyone you know or to you? Did it also leave you a bit shaken? It was a huge reality check, I thought mushrooms were safe but now I don't know what to think. It's all fun and games till something serious happens. I feel as if this happened because I didn't take them to learn new things or to change, I took them just to get fucked up.
Also, I'm not saying it WAS a seizure but it sure looked like one. He was flopping around like a fish and I remember my teacher having a seizure in the 6th grade and it looked exactly the same.
Edited by Mescalitoe (07/05/15 06:02 PM)
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Re: Seizure while on mushrooms. [Re: Mescalitoe]
#21902137 - 07/05/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mushrooms are well known to cause seizures in people already predisposed to seizures. It's possible that your cousin has a preexisting seizure disorder that he is unaware of. He should abstain from psychedelics in the future.
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Re: Seizure while on mushrooms. [Re: Mescalitoe]
#21902141 - 07/05/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sounds like a seizure to me.
Damn, glad hes OK
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Re: Seizure while on mushrooms. [Re: Mescalitoe]
#21902149 - 07/05/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Has he ever had an episode similar to this before? Does he have any memory of the event?
He should probably be assessed for epilepsy.
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Re: Seizure while on mushrooms. [Re: SteveRogers]
#21902163 - 07/05/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah sounds like epilepsy.
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Mescalitoe
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Re: Seizure while on mushrooms. [Re: SteveRogers]
#21902179 - 07/05/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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nooneman said: Mushrooms are well known to cause seizures in people already predisposed to seizures. It's possible that your cousin has a preexisting seizure disorder that he is unaware of. He should abstain from psychedelics in the future.
Yeah I will definitely not be giving him any more type of psychedelics. I can only imagine what would of happened if we smoked the Deemz.
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SteveRogers said: Has he ever had an episode similar to this before? Does he have any memory of the event?
He should probably be assessed for epilepsy.
When he woke up I was telling him to relax and to lay down, he was trying so hard to get up but could barely move. I had to hold him down. I asked him what does he remember and all he said was the fractals and the just me holding him. Ima make sure he goes to the doctor because I hope the shrooms didn't make him more prone to these type of things, but no this has never happened to him.
Edited by Mescalitoe (07/05/15 06:18 PM)
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Bill_Oreilly said: Sounds like a seizure to me.
Damn, glad hes OK
Same. I had a similar thing happen and it was super scary not tripping.
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Mescalitoe
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Bill_Oreilly said: Sounds like a seizure to me.
Damn, glad hes OK
Thank you and I am also glad. I would hate to lose another person close to me. I thought he was dying in my arms.
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Re: Seizure while on mushrooms. [Re: Mescalitoe]
#21902219 - 07/05/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't take shrooms to get fucked up...
Don't drink with them, AND ESPECIALLY don't smoke cannabis... Things can get overwhelming and confusing very quickly.
Make sure he goes to the doc and everything is told. Did you get them from a trustworthy source? Ideally, any psychedelic you put in your body should be created by you. Too much at risk. I know you're still young and think you're invincible, but you're not. I'm guessing you got a taste of that reality in your surreal state. Hopefully learned a thing or two, perhaps?
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Re: Seizure while on mushrooms. [Re: meowshroom]
#21902238 - 07/05/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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meowshroom said: ...AND ESPECIALLY don't smoke cannabis...
This doesn't apply to everybody. Some may not like it, but others really enjoy smoking cannabis during a trip.
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Re: Seizure while on mushrooms. [Re: meowshroom]
#21902268 - 07/05/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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meowshroom said: Don't take shrooms to get fucked up...
Don't drink with them, AND ESPECIALLY don't smoke cannabis... Things can get overwhelming and confusing very quickly.
Make sure he goes to the doc and everything is told. Did you get them from a trustworthy source? Ideally, any psychedelic you put in your body should be created by you. Too much at risk. I know you're still young and think you're invincible, but you're not. I'm guessing you got a taste of that reality in your surreal state. Hopefully learned a thing or two, perhaps?
I grow my own but I will surely not be crossing substances with people anymore. Dabs make my trips way better and I ALWAYS take a shot or two to ease the anxiety before I trip no matter what the substance is, but you are right I'm not invincible and this trip taught me that and a few other things. It kinda has me looking away from psychedelics while I forget about this event. Shit, I'm scared to even look at the half oz I have left. Never again will I indulge in psychedelics unless it's for spirituality purposes or so I can grow as a person.
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Re: Seizure while on mushrooms. [Re: Mescalitoe]
#21902353 - 07/05/15 07:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mescalitoe said: Hey everyone, hope you guys are having a wonderful weekend. As we all know yesterday was the 4th of July, and like many others I wanted to have a blast and trip while I lose myself to all the fireworks.
I was with my cousin who is 18 years of age, and I am 21. It was about 7pm when I took 3G dry and he took 1.5g because it was his second trip on mushrooms. We lemon tek our doses and we were on my roof drinking/smoking. We were just having a blast laying in my roof looking down at our city and all the fireworks. At about 10 or 11 things were getting a bit overwhelming for me and I decided we should get off the roof, go to my room and listen to some tunes while watching this 4 hour fractal DVD that I own.
I throw it on and 10 minutes into the video my cousin collapses from his chair, I run and turn on the light when I noticed his whole body tense up and he started shaking or convulsing like if he was having a seizure.
I thought this was common knowledge, but strobe-light effects are known to cause seizures in epileptic people...
i imagine the video had something to do with it
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Re: Seizure while on mushrooms. [Re: Mescalitoe]
#21902360 - 07/05/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm not going to tell you that it wasn't the mushrooms, but if the accused here is predisposed to seizures, the fractal visual could have been the cause of the seizure in question. Visual stimulation like strobes and intense changing of light could cause a seizure sober, much less in a fungal state of mind. He needs to get checked out so he can know what triggers to be aware of and avoid. Important to tell the doc he was on psychedelics when the incident occurred.
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Re: Seizure while on mushrooms. [Re: meowshroom]
#21902378 - 07/05/15 07:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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meowshroom said: Don't take shrooms to get fucked up...
Don't drink with them, AND ESPECIALLY don't smoke cannabis... Things can get overwhelming and confusing very quickly.
Make sure he goes to the doc and everything is told. Did you get them from a trustworthy source? Ideally, any psychedelic you put in your body should be created by you. Too much at risk. I know you're still young and think you're invincible, but you're not. I'm guessing you got a taste of that reality in your surreal state. Hopefully learned a thing or two, perhaps?
Very childish advice, in a very childish tone. You should gain some experience in your own life before trying to mentor others.
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Mescalitoe
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Re: Seizure while on mushrooms. [Re: rajajuju]
#21902379 - 07/05/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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rajajuju said:
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Mescalitoe said: Hey everyone, hope you guys are having a wonderful weekend. As we all know yesterday was the 4th of July, and like many others I wanted to have a blast and trip while I lose myself to all the fireworks.
I was with my cousin who is 18 years of age, and I am 21. It was about 7pm when I took 3G dry and he took 1.5g because it was his second trip on mushrooms. We lemon tek our doses and we were on my roof drinking/smoking. We were just having a blast laying in my roof looking down at our city and all the fireworks. At about 10 or 11 things were getting a bit overwhelming for me and I decided we should get off the roof, go to my room and listen to some tunes while watching this 4 hour fractal DVD that I own.
I throw it on and 10 minutes into the video my cousin collapses from his chair, I run and turn on the light when I noticed his whole body tense up and he started shaking or convulsing like if he was having a seizure.
I thought this was common knowledge, but strobe-light effects are known to cause seizures in epileptic people...
i imagine the video had something to do with it
I knew that but never would I have thought I would be in this type of situation. You know what they say, you never think it'll happen to you until it does.
Edited by Mescalitoe (07/05/15 07:12 PM)
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Re: Seizure while on mushrooms. [Re: meowshroom]
#21902401 - 07/05/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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meowshroom said: Don't take shrooms to get fucked up...
Don't drink with them, AND ESPECIALLY don't smoke cannabis... Things can get overwhelming and confusing very quickly.
This is all part of my ritual for tripping and it's what I enjoy, please don't force your ideas on all of us, thanks.
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Re: Seizure while on mushrooms. [Re: Mescalitoe]
#21902402 - 07/05/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I see a few people saying don't mix substances, even alcohol or cannabis. That's outrageous. There is no "never" or "always" or any other absolutes with this stuff. If you take mushrooms, do your research, know the risks, and do what you want. Some people, myself included, have a lot of experience and strong positive experiences mixing cannabis and mushrooms. In my opinion, they are the peanut butter and jelly of the drug world
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Mescalitoe
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LogicalAnswer said: I see a few people saying don't mix substances, even alcohol or cannabis. That's outrageous. There is no "never" or "always" or any other absolutes with this stuff. If you take mushrooms, do your research, know the risks, and do what you want. Some people, myself included, have a lot of experience and strong positive experiences mixing cannabis and mushrooms. In my opinion, they are the peanut butter and jelly of the drug world 
What sucks is that I thought I knew all the risks but I didn't even know about the epilepsy thing 
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meowshroom said: Don't take shrooms to get fucked up...
Don't drink with them, AND ESPECIALLY don't smoke cannabis... Things can get overwhelming and confusing very quickly.
This is all part of my ritual for tripping and it's what I enjoy, please don't force your ideas on all of us, thanks.
Same here, but do you think it could've been due to mixing these substances? I mean, it's never happened to me but now this experience has me thinking twice. Not saying I won't mix them anymore because I probably will but I probably won't till I feel safe.
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Re: Seizure while on mushrooms. [Re: Mescalitoe]
#21902510 - 07/05/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It didn't happen to you and I doubt it ever would. I have tipped up a bottle of Russian Standard Vodka while tripping hard once and just drank it straight and finished most of the fifth. I was smoking weed too and I don't usually ever drink liquor straight from the bottle and I was fine. Usually it's some beers before the trip and then some during the trip and smoking weed is mandatory for me. Sure weed can double your high or increase it a lot but that's the point, it also changes up the experience. I have gotten way too high many times and had total out of body experiences with ego death and been unable to move for hours, but no seizures. Some people can just have seizures triggered by various things, the video and the psychedelics probably caused him to go into an epileptic state. Stuff like that can make some some people have seizures, back in the 90's children were having seizures from the video game Fzero with all of it's fast moving effects and overloads of colors on screen.
Your friend/family is probably prone to seizures, I have a family member that use to get seizures from drinking all the time and i've had to call an ambulance for them once myself from way too much drinking ofc. Some people just have a tendency for seizures and the specific reasons may or may not be diagnosed by doctors. He should obviously avoid tripping in the future and seeing a doctor about seizures in the future would probably be a good idea for him.
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Re: Seizure while on mushrooms. [Re: Mescalitoe]
#21902709 - 07/05/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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To the OP, yep that sounds like a seizure to me. You did the right things, generally you want to move stuff out of the way and let them flop around, although given the tripping situation holding him was fine and a comfy relaxed place to lay after is great as their brain is normally extremely sluggish after. That the seizure was only about a minute is good news, while annoying and scary short seizures are rarely life threatening. You want to watch out for long ones which can require medical attention. As others have said it's possible he has epilepsy and given the single episode the video/flashing-lights might have triggered it with the shrooms priming it. He certainly should go get checked out, there are meds and treatments for epilepsy (and while he should tell the doc about taking mushrooms, if he's worried about admitting it in this case he can start with "I was watching a flashing video in the dark" and go from there.)
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Mescaline/cacti is the only psychedelic I really trust in part because of stuff like this
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