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BANANA.MAN
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tripping alone
#21901381 - 07/05/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi I am getting ready to have my first trip I have some drug experience but this will be my first 5-ht-2a receptor agonist (hopefully the first of many). I have been researching entheogens for almost two years very thoroughly, I was going to get some shrooms this week end but the guy who was supposed to get them and I have stopped talking and they are not very common here so i am going to get some hbwr. I dont have any friends who understand why I am interested in psychedelics and I fell like having them around could interfere with the experience. I will start with 5 seeds and work my way up to a higher dose if i need to. I will do an extraction to limit nausea and I will not consume any caffine or any other vasco constrictors the day of the trip so I will not worsen the vasco constriction, I am an introvert will be tripping in a familiar environment do you think I will have any problems? I have researched everything i need to know such as onset, duration, effects, side effects of hbwr so I feel very confident but i thought I would ask people with more experience. Thanks in advance for any answers.
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Dr.Satan
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I definitely don't trip with people around that aren't tripping as well. Mainly because when I do I always have an uncomfortable trip. If you don't have any friends interested in tripping with you then tripping by yourself would be the best move. Be careful not to over do it though because with any psychedelics you always want to maintain control on some level. As long as you make sure you've covered all your bases you will be fine tripping alone. I've only had one shitty experience tripping alone and that was because I dropped like 6g of shrooms and I was walking home from a friends house at like 2 or 3am and the cops stopped me. I was able to talk myself out of the situation even though I was tripping my nuts off. I don't even remember what I said to them, but I remember when I got home I looked in the mirror and my pupils were fucking huge so I know the cops had to suspect something ^.^. Needless to say my trip was completely ruined that night. I was paranoid and shit all the way until I went to sleep. Things like that or even shit like someone fucking with you or being an asshole can ruin your vibe very easily. Being alone is the best way to control your tripping environment. I have had some great times going on trip walks with friends, but I still prefer solitary trips.
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Re: tripping alone [Re: Dr.Satan]
#21901675 - 07/05/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree dont over do it my last trip I ate 35 lighter sized shrooms and I had not a bad trip just not a very good one lol when I was coming down I was naked
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BANANA.MAN
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Re: tripping alone [Re: Dr.Satan]
#21901775 - 07/05/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks alot! I figured I would be fine but its always good to have a second opinion. I wont talk to anyone who might bring me down especially if I feel vulnerable.
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BigHeart
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5 seeds will possibly give you a light trip, but I'm guessing you'll still get nausea and vasoconstriction. Takes three hours to start then lasts like 8 hours after that.
Don't expect visuals but you might have a nice headspace.
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BANANA.MAN
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Re: tripping alone [Re: BigHeart]
#21902194 - 07/05/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea i am not expecting an intense trip but i want to be careful and not overdo it the first time. I will work my way up to 10-12 seeds hopefully and do either a polar extraction in water to make tea or just a non polar extraction with butane and just eat the seed mush. That should help with some of the nausea.
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Dr.Satan
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BANANA.MAN said: Yea i am not expecting an intense trip but i want to be careful and not overdo it the first time. I will work my way up to 10-12 seeds hopefully and do either a polar extraction in water to make tea or just a non polar extraction with butane and just eat the seed mush. That should help with some of the nausea.
Just remember with seeds that they give you a nasty feeling in your stomach for a little while before the effect takes over. So it's a good idea to have some weed available to ease your stomach pains a bit. For me when I take Morning glory seeds (same thing as HWBR just morning glories are weaker) the pain lasts me 40-60min then it fades away as the trip takes over. Also when I ate any food during the trip I just puked it up lol.
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Re: tripping alone [Re: Dr.Satan]
#21903161 - 07/05/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Tripping alone to me is ideal. Hbwr are a nice euphoric psychedelic buzz but if you really want to trip look into san pedro cactus incense. Make a tea out of it and you can truly experience something amazing with less side effects and greater psychedelic effects. Its pretty easy to find on a very popular auction website. Every Body Accepts Yellow
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BANANA.MAN
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Cacti are expensive but if I cant find shrooms that will be my next option, unless i can find real lsd, 2c-b or mdma which doesnt seem likely
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BANANA.MAN
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Re: tripping alone [Re: Dr.Satan]
#21906293 - 07/06/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dr.Satan I will probably smoke a little weed but I recently cut back ALOT on weed and only smoke once a week so my tolerance is low and I always get really bunt out so i dont want to be couch locked or super fucked up so I will keep the smoking to a minimum and cannabis is a vascodialator so it will most likely balence out the vasoconstriction.
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I prefer tripping alone when I take shrooms. I think shrooms are much more likely to produce a bad experience than LSA, but even then not everyone needs a trip sitter all of the time. It depends a lot on the dose too. I certainly wouldn't want to trip around people who have never tripped before, so I can understand that.
I have never tried HBWR- but have tried MG seeds several times years ago - which also has LSA in them. I found them to be very easy to handle and was a very gentle first psychedelic. Gives a nice feeling that everything is beautiful- but didn't really give me a real trip. I don't think you will have any problems without a sitter.
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I stopped tripping with other people. I always trip alone. I'm fine.
The only thing I'm not going to trip on alone again is salvia. I smoked it many many times but after my most recent trip I have concluded I need someone to look after my physical body whilst I'm being squashed, zipped into and merged with objects.
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BANANA.MAN
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Thanks for the input. I am mostly concerned that the vasco constriction and nausea would scare me and no one would be around to check me out but i know what to expect and what I can do if it gets to intense. I have one more question though, some people say that doing nitrus on psycedelics is really intense. Do you think that if im doing fine when I get to the peak that i could handle a whippet, or should I wait until I my next trip? It may even help with the vasco constriction. I will be sitting down ofcourse so I dont fall down and die.
Edited by BANANA.MAN (07/09/15 04:19 PM)
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BANANA.MAN
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Dr.Delban I dont think I would have a problem finding someone to do salvia with here. Alot of kids I know want to try it
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Dr.Satan
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BANANA.MAN said: Thanks for the input. I am mostly concerned that the vasco constriction and nausea would scare me and no one would be around to check me out but i know what to expect and what I can do if it gets to intense. I have one more question though, some people say that doing nitrus on psycedelics is really intense. Do you think that if im doing fine when I get to the peak that i could handle a whippet, or should I wait until I my next trip? It may even help with the vasco constriction. I will be sitting down ofcourse so I dont fall down and die.
It's totally up to you, but depending on your dose it shouldn't be a problem. Unless your taking an insane dose you should be able to maintain control at all times without any issue.
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BANANA.MAN
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Re: tripping alone [Re: Dr.Satan]
#21921113 - 07/09/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok thanks. Looks like im set unless anyone has any advice for hbwr or shrooms cuz i found a couple people who can maybe get shrooms i just need to make sure they wont pull anything sketchy.
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BANANA.MAN
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Ok im expecting 50 hbwr in 5-8 business days wish me luck and lmk if u have any last minute info. Thanks for your replys everyone.
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Rebelutionsssss
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Tripping alone is my favorite thing to do. IMO if you can get the shrooms do it, there's nothing like tripping alone in your room just weirding out blasting music
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BANANA.MAN
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Im still trying to get the shrooms, one of my weed dealers said he can give me a number for a guy but i would need to make sure they are a good price and another guy might be able to get them too but i want to see them weighed infront of me
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Rebelutionsssss
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Eh you got to pick your battles. I highly doubt the dealers going to want someone watching him weigh out your cubes from his stash. Just don't pay anything over 25-30 for an eighth
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BANANA.MAN
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Well i cant get the seeds rn my friend who was goona order them for me is refusing now but i have a friend who is cool about drugs so they can probs get them for me. And ill ask if he will weigh them infront of me anyway
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Dr.Satan
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If all you're trying to get is MG seeds you can buy them at any store with a gardening section. Walmart even has them I believe. Just be sure to get the heavenly blue ones since those are the most potent LSA wise.
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Re: tripping alone [Re: Dr.Satan]
#21943891 - 07/14/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Try talking to yourself or your subconscious when you're alone; keep yourself company
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Re: tripping alone [Re: Krazent]
#21943977 - 07/14/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think it's actually healthy to talk to yourself regularly
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definitely
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BANANA.MAN
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Re: tripping alone [Re: Dr.Satan]
#21949659 - 07/15/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok thanks, ill give morning glory
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Re: tripping alone [Re: Dr.Satan]
#21950760 - 07/16/15 07:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'd disagree with on on the "trying to maintain" front. I mean part of the fun of psychedelics is just letting go of all of that. Also, trying to maintain on certain chemicals and certain doses if just flat out a BAD idea.
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i highly prefer tripping alone or with one friend only (that's tripping too). Much, much easier to let go into that psychedelic headspace. Tripping with a lot of people sort of becomes recreational for me
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Re: tripping alone [Re: Krazent] 1
#21954222 - 07/16/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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To be honest, when I'm by myself I feel like I have a better time, can be myself more than when im with a group of people.
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Re: tripping alone [Re: LSDollar]
#21954531 - 07/17/15 12:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wait until you can get something to trip on that isn't so poisonous. There is a reason that HBWR was never used shamanically. In short, don't be an idiot.
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jesuisravi said: Wait until you can get something to trip on that isn't so poisonous. There is a reason that HBWR was never used shamanically. In short, don't be an idiot.
Everyone I introduced to HBWR-seeds so far has been very very amazed how psychedelic and trippy these little seeds are. The all have been thankfull for showing me the qualities of those magical seeds.
Ololiuqui or Morning Glorys have a much longer shamanic history than HBWR, that's right. As long as you go slow with the seeds and don't ingest more than 10 HBWRs at once you will have a good time. Nausea and vasoconstriction are not too bad at medium doses like 6-8 seeds.
Crush them and put them in a cup of water for an hour, than strain out the crushed seeds and drink the liquid mixed with sth tasty.
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Im sure that I will be fine, I have read many many trip reports and I will work my way up to a higher dose and do an extraction if I need to, Shulgin regularly ingested chemicals that NOTHING was known about and hes fine because he started with low doses. People acctually do know about the effects of these seeds so I am going into this with plenty of information. I understand that vasvoconstriction may be a problem so i will ry not to ingest too much sodium, caffine or other vascoconstrictors and I will be using cannabis which is a vascodialator and it has helpped me with nausea and abdominal pain before, plus I have the internet! I have alot more resources than shulgin did. Thank you for your concern and I understand not wanting me to do something stupid and get hbwr banned or give it a bad name.
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