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Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much
#21901264 - 07/05/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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hey guys, i really need to vent to anything really, sorry to whine and stuff but it seems that events in my life have led me into a rough spot where im unfortunately forced into isolated from society, Im rarely with my friends who make me feel part of a community or make me feel loved and accepted.
I just want to know how i can ease this constant distress since i cant really fix my circumstance at this time. Ive had a lot of experience with social isolation but i havent started to really feel the burn until now
Being around friends who make me feel welcome centers me in reality and positivity and since i dont have access to that in this dark period of my life im forced against my will to spend unhealthy amounts of time by my self which is horrible for me because i suffer from delusions that i have to constantly remind and enforce that its not real.
The only thing keeping me relativity functional is working on art (advancing my skills in digital painting/drawing.) and as i mentioned before weight training.
Its pretty much the only hope i have in fixing my isolation, If i can advance my skill set enough then just maybe that will be my ticket out of what i feel is a prison, or a life sentence in solitary confinement, holy fuck i now know why solitary is used as a torture technique, shit really fucking works unfortunately. i notice when i make good art people actually are aware i exist and its a refreshing feeling to be honest thats why i feel i might find a community where i dont feel like a stranger if i can improve my stuff.
I just wish constant intrusive thoughts of inadequacy and eternal loneliness wasn't so bombarding, it would make it much easer to work without the constant weeping.
Like i have the constant thought that my youth is just being melted away as im confined to 4 walls for the majority of my life.
I really want a way out, and i dont really want to kill myself either so i think art is the only small chance i have to free me from prison.
Thanks for you time.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
#21901279 - 07/05/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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join a weekly league man. quick easy way to meet people.
billiards, bowling, something man.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: rackem]
#21901303 - 07/05/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Id feel better if i was with people i felt at home with, its quite difficult for me to cultivate that with strangers in a scene im not familiar with, But i appreciate the suggestion, Id have to think of some group or club that id feel id get along with.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: rackem]
#21901315 - 07/05/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've been isolated the past 4+ years and I doubt it will change. Honestly, I don't really mind, I prefer being alone and doing my own thing for the most part. Don't really have much advice other than do something to get out and be more social. You say you deal with delusions; what exactly are you talking about?
Also if you wanna chat and shoot the shit or anything send me a pm.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
#21901316 - 07/05/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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search the meetups in your area.. if you like it chances are there is a league/group of people meeting up to discuss share ideas about that doesnt involve the internet.
i assure you, if you put just an inkling of effort into it you will find something.. and hell, even if you dont like what you chose you can always find somethign else.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: luvdemboomers]
#21901338 - 07/05/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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delusions is putting it lightly, i have about 2 years of my life where its just a complete blur of confusing events.
I have decided to completely erase it from my memory for good and try to go on with my life like nothing happened, i really dont even want to bring any of it up.
its unhealthy for me to think about it because i just to figure out what it means and it really has no meaning.
I have no explanation for what happened to me but the delusions are pretty much just thinking about it at all. I have to train myself not to get sucked into the delusions.
Ive built a philosophy that everything is meaningless and useless from this reality so that i can keep myself sane. I suppose i dont 100% agree with that but i feel its the healthiest position i can have on the matter and just leave it at that.
The philosophy that everything is bullshit now works for me best
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
#21901351 - 07/05/15 02:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
SleepyE said: hey guys, i really need to vent to anything really, sorry to whine and stuff but it seems that events in my life have led me into a rough spot where im unfortunately forced into isolated from society, Im rarely with my friends who make me feel part of a community or make me feel loved and accepted.
I just want to know how i can ease this constant distress since i cant really fix my circumstance at this time. Ive had a lot of experience with social isolation but i havent started to really feel the burn until now
Being around friends who make me feel welcome centers me in reality and positivity and since i dont have access to that in this dark period of my life im forced against my will to spend unhealthy amounts of time by my self which is horrible for me because i suffer from delusions that i have to constantly remind and enforce that its not real.
The only thing keeping me relativity functional is working on art (advancing my skills in digital painting/drawing.) and as i mentioned before weight training.
Its pretty much the only hope i have in fixing my isolation, If i can advance my skill set enough then just maybe that will be my ticket out of what i feel is a prison, or a life sentence in solitary confinement, holy fuck i now know why solitary is used as a torture technique, shit really fucking works unfortunately. i notice when i make good art people actually are aware i exist and its a refreshing feeling to be honest thats why i feel i might find a community where i dont feel like a stranger if i can improve my stuff.
I just wish constant intrusive thoughts of inadequacy and eternal loneliness wasn't so bombarding, it would make it much easer to work without the constant weeping.
Like i have the constant thought that my youth is just being melted away as im confined to 4 walls for the majority of my life.
I really want a way out, and i dont really want to kill myself either so i think art is the only small chance i have to free me from prison.
Thanks for you time.
Same.
Be true to yourself. Be honest.
Nice, I want to get into art. Didn't do it the past 15 years, fuck it it's time to start living 
What program do you use? I really want to start drawing with a pad. I'm using manga university at the moment 
Find people with likewise situations, meet up with them. Get on social media and actively look for things which interest you (mine being game development, programming, ICT, ...) Then meet with people you find on there.
Share your art on somewhere! Where can I follow ?
Start slacklining!
I just join forums for all things i'm interested in. I've met the coolest people this way.
Going out and get FUBAR'd helps but i'm going sober so yeah :shrugs: .
All in all I don't really mind being alone so i'm sorry. I do get lonely sometimes aswell.
Edited by Beanhead (07/05/15 02:41 PM)
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: Beanhead] 1
#21901439 - 07/05/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Get used to being alone. Even when you are with others, its still just you inside your mind.
Learn to love what you hate
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: MilkdudTitties]
#21901520 - 07/05/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've been isolating myself more and more lately. I used to be depressed about it but now I don't care. I quit hanging out with all of my friends and haven't heard from them in over a year. Though they became douchebags so that's all good. I figure eventually I'll become social maybe after going and getting my head examined just to see how fucked up I am. I could have friends if I wanted them I guess, but I dont actively seek friendship. I'm better off alone.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: Nitrous Monkey]
#21901568 - 07/05/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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im isolated but i have me best friend heroin to comfort me. Needy as she be, takes all the pain away and will be your friend for life.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: kakashi68]
#21901744 - 07/05/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i dont like being alone though
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: Beanhead]
#21901761 - 07/05/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Same.
Be true to yourself. Be honest.
Nice, I want to get into art. Didn't do it the past 15 years, fuck it it's time to start living 
What program do you use? I really want to start drawing with a pad. I'm using manga university at the moment 
Find people with likewise situations, meet up with them. Get on social media and actively look for things which interest you (mine being game development, programming, ICT, ...) Then meet with people you find on there.
Share your art on somewhere! Where can I follow ?
Start slacklining!
I just join forums for all things i'm interested in. I've met the coolest people this way.
Going out and get FUBAR'd helps but i'm going sober so yeah :shrugs: .
All in all I don't really mind being alone so i'm sorry. I do get lonely sometimes aswell.
Thanks for the message dude, ive been using photoshop, i just started with it so im pretty newb at the tools and effects i can make but il take advantage of this loneliness and try to work on it as much as i can.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
#21901785 - 07/05/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why don't you like being alone though?
Do you even know?
Have you even thought about it before?
When i really started to think about questions like this, i realized that what i was trying to get from others, i should have been getting from myself
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: kakashi68]
#21901794 - 07/05/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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kakashi68 said: im isolated but i have me best friend heroin to comfort me. Needy as she be, takes all the pain away and will be your friend for life.
only thing i do is smoke weed, helps relieve the intensive anxiety i always feel, but sometimes it makes it worse if i get too high so i just smoke a little to keep my appetite and mood okay.
I dont use anything else and probably wont for a long time, weed might even be something i should get rid of if i can make due without it.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: MilkdudTitties]
#21901805 - 07/05/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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MilkdudTitties said: Why don't you like being alone though?
Do you even know?
Have you even thought about it before?
When i really started to think about questions like this, i realized that what i was trying to get from others, i should have been getting from myself
people need social interactions and friends otherwise they go insane, its just how we are built.
i want to stay sane but it seems luck(if there is even such a thing) has decided i dont deserve that luxury at this point and i guess i deserve that fate.
when im around friends the intrusive thoughts are less overwhelming.
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Edited by SleepyE (07/05/15 04:28 PM)
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE] 1
#21901885 - 07/05/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SleepyE said: people need social interactions and friends otherwise they go insane, its just how we are built.
ordinary men hate loneliness but the master makes use of it for he knows that he is alone with the entire universe
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE] 1
#21901887 - 07/05/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Have you ever practiced meditation and yoga? These 2 practices can change your life drastically. Once you realize that your thought habits control you, then you will think healthy habits, such as "This is truly extraordinary" or simply "Beautiful" instead of a negative response to a matter. In your case, I would start by noticing how beautiful in your solitary life is. Whether it's a butterfly flying, how you feel after yoga, or after you create a piece. Your art is truly very outstanding! If you ever get the chance, trip with a "spiritual" or conscious mindset, this has done wonders in improving my life. I hope this information helps you in some way, peace
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: ConsciousBird]
#21901897 - 07/05/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i'm the same way then i fall asleep
i wake up and feel better
sometimes not but probably mostly when im sick
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: Konyap]
#21901899 - 07/05/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I feel like now since im 26 i have to be with a girl or they won't even pick up the phone
which is hard since i haven't dated since i was like 19...
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE] 1
#21901901 - 07/05/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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People may need social interaction, but they also need alone time as well.
There is nothing wrong with being alone or isolated, its how you handle it that matters.
You can choose to view it negatively, or you can use it for something positive, the choice is yours
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: ConsciousBird]
#21901915 - 07/05/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ConsciousBird said: Have you ever practiced meditation and yoga? These 2 practices can change your life drastically. Once you realize that your thought habits control you, then you will think healthy habits, such as "This is truly extraordinary" or simply "Beautiful" instead of a negative response to a matter. In your case, I would start by noticing how beautiful in your solitary life is. Whether it's a butterfly flying, how you feel after yoga, or after you create a piece. Your art is truly very outstanding! If you ever get the chance, trip with a "spiritual" or conscious mindset, this has done wonders in improving my life. I hope this information helps you in some way, peace 
thank you so much! i really feel like meditation might help but its tough for me to devote the time to it because i feel its time i could be using improving myself, but i guess in a way that would be beneficial.
I mainly dont do it because im not sure how, i try to sometimes sit closed eyed and chant a word like "om" or something, but all i feel is a bit of lessening in the intrusive thoughts, i suppose if i do it more often it will get even better. But i have 2 options, learn coping mechanisms to deal with my crappy situation, or hone crafts that might have the potential to lift me out of my crappy situation.
i guess im caught at a crossroads into which one id like to devote my time to but i feel i have sub-consciously chosen the latter.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: MilkdudTitties]
#21901934 - 07/05/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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MilkdudTitties said: People may need social interaction, but they also need alone time as well.
There is nothing wrong with being alone or isolated, its how you handle it that matters.
You can choose to view it negatively, or you can use it for something positive, the choice is yours
ive been isolated for too long though, i just dont want to spend whatever time i have left in life alone and isolated like im in prison.
Im missing the rest of my life and i dont want to, i want a chance to experience the stuff that most people do, im not sure why this is happening to me but i feel maybe the reason is i do not offer enough value for people to feel incentive to interact with me.
If i can create value of myself that might open the door for me to make friendships.
Im not worth anything at the moment i assume, but i feel like i can fix that, i just need time.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE] 1
#21901943 - 07/05/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Meditation can help you work on yourself too. its just mental instead of physical.
I usually focus on my breathing. In through the nose, hold it and then exhale through the mouth. I count each breath. inhaling for several seconds, holding it for several, and exhaling for as long as i inhaled.
I try to stop thinking about everything else. The only thoughts in my mind are the numbers counting up. and those aren't even really thoughts, just time stamps.
Empty your mind of all distractions so that you are no longer thinking, just being
Edit: If you can't even see value in yourself, how will others see the value in you?
If you can see the value in yourself, you wouldn't need others to validate you
Edited by MilkdudTitties (07/05/15 05:09 PM)
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: MilkdudTitties]
#21901965 - 07/05/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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you misunderstand.
i understand how hierarchy works, and we live in a society where those values are encouraged.
I see the "potential" of value in me.
Its not there because if it was i wouldnt be in this situation.
i know what im worth to society, im not an idiot.
im just smart enough to realize that and know i can change it with the right plan.
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Edited by SleepyE (07/05/15 05:13 PM)
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: MilkdudTitties]
#21901970 - 07/05/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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OP, are you close to Ottawa?
Most importantly, are you a drug fiend fuck up?
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
#21901985 - 07/05/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do you play and video games with like steam or something? If you have steam I'm MummifiedInBongwater on there. Teambased games can be helpful for interacting with people. If you just want to talk or something feel free to PM me.
Many people feel like you do even if you think you're the only one. It's just the nature of our cultural social alienation. It's all about how you look at things. Reality is in the eye of the beholder. The world doesn't feel this way and certainly does not feel that way. All external feels are for the most part projected onto the world from your internal self.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: Patlal]
#21902030 - 07/05/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Patlal said: OP, are you close to Ottawa?
Most importantly, are you a drug fiend fuck up?
i dont think so, im just an overly curious and overly magical thinking person. But im working on that
magical thinking is what gets me in trouble, so i have to teach my brain not to make certain connections.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: Eggtimer]
#21902033 - 07/05/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Eggtimer said: Do you play and video games with like steam or something? If you have steam I'm MummifiedInBongwater on there. Teambased games can be helpful for interacting with people. If you just want to talk or something feel free to PM me.
Many people feel like you do even if you think you're the only one. It's just the nature of our cultural social alienation. It's all about how you look at things. Reality is in the eye of the beholder. The world doesn't feel this way and certainly does not feel that way. All external feels are for the most part projected onto the world from your internal self.
video games make me depressed so i tend to stay away from them, any activity where it feels like im wasting the last little bit of time i have with my life gives me anxiety.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
#21902080 - 07/05/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SleepyE said:
Quote:
Eggtimer said: Do you play and video games with like steam or something? If you have steam I'm MummifiedInBongwater on there. Teambased games can be helpful for interacting with people. If you just want to talk or something feel free to PM me.
Many people feel like you do even if you think you're the only one. It's just the nature of our cultural social alienation. It's all about how you look at things. Reality is in the eye of the beholder. The world doesn't feel this way and certainly does not feel that way. All external feels are for the most part projected onto the world from your internal self.
video games make me depressed so i tend to stay away from them, any activity where it feels like im wasting the last little bit of time i have with my life gives me anxiety.
You seemed very concerned with "wasting your life" what do you want out of life? why are you not going and doing that?
I find teamspeak and video games to MUCH MUCH easier than real life sociaisation because you dont have that awkwardness and you can just do whatever but still be apart of a community.
have you considered professional help?
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: kakashi68]
#21902087 - 07/05/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i have no access to professional help.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
#21902093 - 07/05/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i have no problem socializing really, nothing crippling, its just for some reason i dont have the opportunity and or it never goes anywhere.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
#21902095 - 07/05/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SleepyE said: i have no access to professional help.
yes you do. What finacially? surely in canadia there is some sort of free mental health kind of thing.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
#21902097 - 07/05/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Video games ARE a waste of time.
They are a fun way to waste time. Thats what they are supposed to be. Just like TV and movies.
The only difference between a waste of time and a meaningful experience is the perspective one has throughout the experience.
Life is what you make of it.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: kakashi68]
#21902104 - 07/05/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SleepyE said: i have no access to professional help.
yes you do. What finacially? surely in canadia there is some sort of free mental health kind of thing.
nope, ive tried, they just have doctors who throw ssri's at you and say next. i dont need that shit.
That stuff has pretty much replaced professional help.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
#21902106 - 07/05/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SleepyE said: i have no access to professional help.
yes you do. What finacially? surely in canadia there is some sort of free mental health kind of thing.
nope, ive tried, they just have doctors who throw ssri's at you and say next. i dont need that shit.
That stuff has pretty much replaced professional help.
you dont seem to be trying very hard. If you want to change. You cant just accept one bad outcome.
I ask you again. What do you want out of life there your not getting now and why are you not doing it.
Are you simply feeling pressured to fit in.
Im not talking about seeing a "doctor" see a counselor or you sound like a youth so, some sort of worker person. You have to find them.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: kakashi68]
#21902113 - 07/05/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ive tried, the best i could get what a 1 time only appointment with a pill therapist and i had to wait a month so i just said fuck it and canceled,
thats literally the best you can get if you dont have deep pockets.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
#21902121 - 07/05/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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suffer a lot and keep making great art.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: kakashi68]
#21902125 - 07/05/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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you dont seem to be trying very hard. If you want to change. You cant just accept one bad outcome.
I ask you again. What do you want out of life there your not getting now and why are you not doing it.
building social circles,
loneliness is not that difficult, im not around enough people who i feel welcome with, this causes me distress, and i have bad memories that contribute to the distress and make me feel worthless.
My only option is to figure out how to up my value so more people will feel compelled to interact with me.
I guess its good to know im not the only one in the shitty condition, its interesting to know how people cope, your methods however seem rather unhealthy so i might want to avoid that.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
#21902129 - 07/05/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SleepyE said: Id feel better if i was with people i felt at home with, its quite difficult for me to cultivate that with strangers in a scene im not familiar with, But i appreciate the suggestion, Id have to think of some group or club that id feel id get along with.
SleepyE - Why don't you join a lifting club or get into powerlifting?
Your a beast in the gym - why not step it up to the next level?
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: akira_akuma]
#21902136 - 07/05/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: suffer a lot and keep making great art.
do you think that suffering truly fuels creativity? ive read things articles of people trying to say that the suffering artist archetype is bullshit and people who suffer make shittier art.
but i also read a study that found creativity and mental illness like bipolar disorder to be linked.
that artists are more likely to suffer from mental illness due to how their brain works.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: PDU]
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SleepyE said: Id feel better if i was with people i felt at home with, its quite difficult for me to cultivate that with strangers in a scene im not familiar with, But i appreciate the suggestion, Id have to think of some group or club that id feel id get along with.
SleepyE - Why don't you join a lifting club or get into powerlifting?
Your a beast in the gym - why not step it up to the next level?
not anywhere near a powerlifter.
and i dont really talk to anyone at my gym either.. dont really have anything in common besides lifting and thats not enough to build friendships.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
#21902158 - 07/05/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SleepyE said: do you think that suffering truly fuels creativity?
I believe this to be true in many cases, of course there are exceptions aswell.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
#21902159 - 07/05/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: suffer a lot and keep making great art.
do you think that suffering truly fuels creativity? ive read things articles of people trying to say that the suffering artist archetype is bullshit and people who suffer make shitter art.
but i also read a study that found creativity and mental illness like bipolar disorder to be linked.
that artists are more likely to suffer from mental illness due to how their brain works.
people who suffer make shittier art? no. they tend to be too depressed to be productive. they suffer as artist's, but suffering does make worse art. it actually makes you so inclined to make art that's meaningful and outside of the box. these "clean" artist's are not gonna change the landscape. the one's who are changing it, they have suffered for their art. most great artists do, though not all.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: k00laid]
#21902171 - 07/05/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have no real life friends atm everyone in my immediate life is just acquaintance atm
Im very soicable i talk to strangers quite a bit and usually chit D chat but it usually never sparks into anything
I have been very lonely for quite a bit of time eventually the right people and I will cross paths
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: akira_akuma]
#21902172 - 07/05/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: suffer a lot and keep making great art.
do you think that suffering truly fuels creativity? ive read things articles of people trying to say that the suffering artist archetype is bullshit and people who suffer make shitter art.
but i also read a study that found creativity and mental illness like bipolar disorder to be linked.
that artists are more likely to suffer from mental illness due to how their brain works.
people who suffer make shittier art? no. they tend to be too depressed to be productive. they suffer as artist's, but suffering does make worse art. it actually makes you so inclined to make art that's meaningful and outside of the box. these "clean" artist's are not gonna change the landscape. the one's who are changing it, they have suffered for their art. most great artists do, though not all.
interesting perspective if i understood you correctly, i definitely agree that suffering makes it harder to be productive. But also i feel that you can improve at a faster rate with that pressure especially if its your only chance that you might one day be free.
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SleepyE said: i have no access to professional help.
yes you do. What finacially? surely in canadia there is some sort of free mental health kind of thing.
There is free mental health services in Canada. I met with an intake worker about a month back regarding my mother....
I chose not to pursue this avenue too much. I think you can get counselling and they act as a connection to social services (financial and medical) aswell as linking to funding for things like skill training....
That said, I don't think it's like getting a "therapist" which is what would probably be appropriate in this scenerio.
I saw a counsellor at my school about a few issues (step father passing away, relationship dissolving, academic anxiety) - and although it was nice to "chat" with them, it wasn't entirely transformative or helpful. I was under the impression they act as the first line of defense for someone who is suicidal, or derailing their schooling... Me? They told me I am normal and just reassured me.
I realize it's not the same - but i think the experience with the provincial mental health organization would be similarly futile.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
#21902183 - 07/05/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It gets easier.
At first, you hate it and fight it and it's terrible. Then it starts to get comfortable. Before long, you realize that you'd much rather be alone than with other people. Eventually, you look forward to being by yourself, and start to hate times when you have to interact with others.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: nooneman]
#21902188 - 07/05/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i went through phases where i thought id much rather be alone than with other people, but thats exact what it was, just a phase.
thats suicide imo.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
#21902214 - 07/05/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I dunno, maybe when you're young. Most of the people I know over 30 and especially over 40 have close to zero friends and spend all their time by themselves. It's surprisingly normal.
But, if you don't want to live like that, that's totally okay, and there's nothing wrong with that. I don't want to advocate doing something you hate.
You might think about picking up some kind of hobby that involves groups. D&D, boardgames, something to put you immediately into a group with other people. You might also look to see if there are any local group classes for stuff like painting, or some other kind of craft. You might be able to make friends through the class.
Your art is also getting extremely good. You might consider finding out if you can show some of it off in a local gallery. That might net you some friends.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: nooneman]
#21902255 - 07/05/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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thank you for the compliment 
i suppose once i get older i wont have an issue, Im in the prime of my youth and i just feel like its being wasting by me being confined to four walls mostly.
I really appreciate the suggestions and info, id love to go to an art class and meet people but i feel like my time could be used better if i pump out more artworks because i feel that it will also help me meet people in the end run but will also increase my value i think.
i posted my latest piece in a large visionary artist forum on facebook where artists around the world post their stuff for people to comment, so it had my art page linked and it went from only 9 likes on my page to 25 likes so that was encouraging i just gotta keep growing that page and pushing whatever envelops inside me that i can to keep getting the support.
Visionary art is getting more advanced each passing day and i feel like im missing the boat if i dont work to establish myself.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: nooneman]
#21902262 - 07/05/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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why not go to an art gallery talk to art people make art friends
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#21902263 - 07/05/15 06:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have no doubt you'll end up being one of the major visionary artists. You already are around here 
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
#21902265 - 07/05/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I really appreciate the suggestions and info, id love to go to an art class and meet people but i feel like my time could be used better if i pump out more artworks because i feel that it will also help me meet people in the end run but will also increase my value i think..
that statement is potato.
You want to make friends but youd rather sit at home making art than getting out an ACTUALLY making friends.
Your contradicting yourself.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: nooneman]
#21902267 - 07/05/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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thank you so much! i just gotta work hard and harmonize with the artists i admire, Id love to one day develop salvia droids digital art abilities, he blows my socks off, him, luke brown, and ilene meyer are my heros, and of course alex grey
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: kakashi68]
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I really appreciate the suggestions and info, id love to go to an art class and meet people but i feel like my time could be used better if i pump out more artworks because i feel that it will also help me meet people in the end run but will also increase my value i think..
that statement is potato.
You want to make friends but youd rather sit at home making art than getting out an ACTUALLY making friends.
Your contradicting yourself.
i kno! aha, but its hard, because id have to make the assumption that id make friends there, but since i have nothing much to offer i dont see that going too well, if i can establish some value in my asap by focusing on the digital art then that might be a more rewarding decision, id just have to grit my teeth and bare the isolation a little longer, or long enough to develop more skillset in my craft.
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I really appreciate the suggestions and info, id love to go to an art class and meet people but i feel like my time could be used better if i pump out more artworks because i feel that it will also help me meet people in the end run but will also increase my value i think..
that statement is potato.
You want to make friends but youd rather sit at home making art than getting out an ACTUALLY making friends.
Your contradicting yourself.
i kno! aha, but its hard, because id have to make the assumption that id make friends there, but since i have nothing much to offer i dont see that going too well, if i can establish some value in my asap by focusing on the digital art then that might be a more rewarding decision, id just have to grit my teeth and bare the isolation a little longer, or long enough to develop more skillset in my craft.
your bullshitting yourself. your tip toeing around your problems. Stop bullshitting yourself. Your wasting everyones time if your asking for help, know what you need to do but continue to sit in your room and and isolate yourself. Your not "increasing your value" your simply making an excuse to sit at home
Either accept that you WANT to isolate yourself or stop bullshitting and go out and meet people.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: kakashi68]
#21902322 - 07/05/15 06:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ur right i suppose, il do that. Art class is a commitment of my time, Something like going to bar is a little less time consuming.
i have to use my time wisely, and i agree being on here doesnt do that but i needed to get advice on how other people cope with loneliness.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
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SleepyE said: ur right i suppose, il do that. Art class is a commitment of my time, Something like going to bar is a little less time consuming.
i have to use my time wisely, and i agree being on here doesnt do that but i needed to get advice on how other people cope with loneliness.
didnt say you HAVE to go to a class. Go to any sort of art thing, a gallery, a show ect. Easy as piss to start a conversation about a piece. you dont have to commit "time" but if your so anxious about being alone you must have a fair bit of time free.
SO STOP MAKING EXCUSES FFS GO OUT AND DO THINGS. seriously look at your posts its just excuse excuse excuse followed by more excuses, You dont need to know how to "cope" you need to get rid of it.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: kakashi68]
#21902407 - 07/05/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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jesus alright fine, no need to get worked up. i get the message.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
#21902417 - 07/05/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i wish my friends were around, i get 1 day a week i can be with the few good friends i have but most are on vacation this summer so i havent had access to them.
gosh i really hate summer time.
i just wish i had more opportunity to be around my friends and meet other kids my age.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
#21902427 - 07/05/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You aint the only one mate
You gotta get out there and go to places people.like you would go to
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
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SleepyE said: i went through phases where i thought id much rather be alone than with other people, but thats exact what it was, just a phase.
thats suicide imo.
I do sometimes enjoy others company but being alone is good too you just gotta be alone doing what you do.
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#21902444 - 07/05/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I enjoy my alone time after i have hung out with a*friend* Being alone all the time is unheathly ime
Im bummed cause i have next week off work and no friends
so just  and being by myself for a whole week
Atleast i got a good check coming in
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#21902446 - 07/05/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Build your own damn boat. One of my favorite lectures.
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SleepyE said: i went through phases where i thought id much rather be alone than with other people, but thats exact what it was, just a phase.
thats suicide imo.
I do sometimes enjoy others company but being alone is good too you just gotta be alone doing what you do.
youre right to a degree,
its just ive spent my life not caring about social connections and only recently truly understand the necessity of it especially since my whole life ive felt deprived of it,. i just feel incredibly out of balance and need a large dose of social connection to do some real healing but the well is dry at the moment and im forced into long periods of darkness.
Meeting strangers by myself is quite a task, i do have social anxiety and am introverted so its a little tough, i like having my friends around because it releases the pressure in social interactions so i can feel more comfortable with talking to new people, this is definitely something i need focus on working on of course. Been making sure that when i am finally out with my friends that i try to talk to new people.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE] 1
#21902739 - 07/05/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sorry to hear that Sleepy.
Ive been a loner in my life. It was horrible. I was crying myself hardcore just thinking how worthless and lonely i was. It was one of the lowest points in my life.
How i got out of it was going out to social events. Concerts and raves mostly. I loved to dance, even when alone. Its funny cause a couple occassions woman wanted to dance with me, but i was so depressed, i didnt want to dance with anyone.
But then, one day at a bar, i was in a good mood, and this woman wanted to dance. We danced and 3 years later we are still together, lovers for life (hopefully).
My point is you might find love in the most unexpected places. And being in love with cure your loneliness.
The trick is to get out into the social scene aand interact. Its your only hope. If u stay inside all the time, u will not meet anyone.
The other thing you can do is look for a art group that DMT/psychedelic art. You will find like-minded people and possibly make some new cool friends.
Look up some local amatuer art groups online, u might find a group that loves your work and wants to meet/help you progress.
In order to make social connections, you *need* to put the effort in to make friends.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21902761 - 07/05/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Sorry to hear that Sleepy.
Ive been a loner in my life. It was horrible. I was crying myself hardcore just thinking how worthless and lonely i was. It was one of the lowest points in my life.
How i got out of it was going out to social events. Concerts and raves mostly. I loved to dance, even when alone. Its funny cause a couple occassions woman wanted to dance with me, but i was so depressed, i didnt want to dance with anyone.
But then, one day at a bar, i was in a good mood, and this woman wanted to dance. We danced and 3 years later we are still together, lovers for life (hopefully).
My point is you might find love in the most unexpected places. And being in love with cure your loneliness.
The trick is to get out into the social scene aand interact. Its your only hope. If u stay inside all the time, u will not meet anyone.
The other thing you can do is look for a art group that DMT/psychedelic art. You will find like-minded people and possibly make some new cool friends.
Look up some local amatuer art groups online, u might find a group that loves your work and wants to meet/help you progress.
In order to make social connections, you *need* to put the effort in to make friends.
Thats sounds like a good idea but you could you share specific tips on? Like did you just go to these places alone and just hope someone talked to yo or what?
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: kakashi68]
#21902793 - 07/05/15 08:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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People just found me. They must have loved my passion for dancing, thats usually why they talked/interacted with me.
When i met my current girlfriend, she said she noticed me cause of my hat. I decorated it with feathers and craft stuff, cause when u are alone, u have a lot of free time.
So, be passionate about music, dancing or clothing or custom-made clothing. It will likely strike up a conversation with someone.
Girls (and guys i suppose) like a guy who is paassionate about something or is having a good time time by himself.
In general.
If u show depression, thats usually a social "turn off" and most people wont wanna talk to, unless they are caring and wanna help people.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21902906 - 07/05/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: People just found me. They must have loved my passion for dancing, thats usually why they talked/interacted with me.
When i met my current girlfriend, she said she noticed me cause of my hat. I decorated it with feathers and craft stuff, cause when u are alone, u have a lot of free time.
So, be passionate about music, dancing or clothing or custom-made clothing. It will likely strike up a conversation with someone.
Girls (and guys i suppose) like a guy who is paassionate about something or is having a good time time by himself.
In general.
If u show depression, thats usually a social "turn off" and most people wont wanna talk to, unless they are caring and wanna help people.
i am passionate about none of those things or the club/rave/bar scene
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#21902980 - 07/05/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: In general.
If u show depression, thats usually a social "turn off" and most people wont wanna talk to, unless they are caring and wanna help people.
Human emotions are infectious, like a disease.
A bad mood spreads like wildfire, its very easy to see this happen at work. But a good mood can spread just the same.
If you are pissed off and depressed all the time, no one will want to talk to you, unless they are feeling the same or they want to help you
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: kakashi68]
#21902983 - 07/05/15 09:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sell drugs. Everybody'll be your friend (or at least pretend to be)
Just kiddin', bro. Don't sell drugs.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE] 1
#21903015 - 07/05/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SleepyE said: hey guys, i really need to vent to anything really, sorry to whine and stuff but it seems that events in my life have led me into a rough spot where im unfortunately forced into isolated from society, Im rarely with my friends who make me feel part of a community or make me feel loved and accepted.
I just want to know how i can ease this constant distress since i cant really fix my circumstance at this time. Ive had a lot of experience with social isolation but i havent started to really feel the burn until now
Being around friends who make me feel welcome centers me in reality and positivity and since i dont have access to that in this dark period of my life im forced against my will to spend unhealthy amounts of time by my self which is horrible for me because i suffer from delusions that i have to constantly remind and enforce that its not real.
The only thing keeping me relativity functional is working on art (advancing my skills in digital painting/drawing.) and as i mentioned before weight training.
Its pretty much the only hope i have in fixing my isolation, If i can advance my skill set enough then just maybe that will be my ticket out of what i feel is a prison, or a life sentence in solitary confinement, holy fuck i now know why solitary is used as a torture technique, shit really fucking works unfortunately. i notice when i make good art people actually are aware i exist and its a refreshing feeling to be honest thats why i feel i might find a community where i dont feel like a stranger if i can improve my stuff.
I just wish constant intrusive thoughts of inadequacy and eternal loneliness wasn't so bombarding, it would make it much easer to work without the constant weeping.
Like i have the constant thought that my youth is just being melted away as im confined to 4 walls for the majority of my life.
I really want a way out, and i dont really want to kill myself either so i think art is the only small chance i have to free me from prison.
Thanks for you time.
If you live in the Niagara region then give me a PM and maybe we can hang some time dood. We'll go fishin' or something. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
Also I'm a socially anxious introvert too but I try to just deal with it and people generally don't even notice. We can keep a conversation up, we do have some common ground already after all!
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: Midnight_Toker]
#21903077 - 07/05/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i appreciate the offer unfortunately i live in the GTA area, Niagara is a bit too far for me.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
#21903082 - 07/05/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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don't be such a crybaby. do have any idea how much suffering there is in the world and how many people will never even be able to conceive of the idea of going out with friends?
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: MilkdudTitties]
#21903083 - 07/05/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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MilkdudTitties said:
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LogicaL Chaos said: In general.
If u show depression, thats usually a social "turn off" and most people wont wanna talk to, unless they are caring and wanna help people.
Human emotions are infectious, like a disease.
A bad mood spreads like wildfire, its very easy to see this happen at work. But a good mood can spread just the same.
If you are pissed off and depressed all the time, no one will want to talk to you, unless they are feeling the same or they want to help you
i try to hide my depression when im around others. i think i do an okay job. I try to seem happy
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
#21903089 - 07/05/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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What your parents grounded you because you smelled like weed?
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: s240779]
#21903095 - 07/05/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Da2ra said: don't be such a crybaby. do have any idea how much suffering there is in the world and how many people will never even be able to conceive of the idea of going out with friends?
of course im aware, im human still though, when im in a rough spot its hard for me to appreciate that someone has it worse, I find its harder to maintain empathy for other peoples suffering when you are suffering yourself, all you can really focus on is your own well being until thats fixed.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE] 1
#21903910 - 07/06/15 03:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Whats doing it for me is Swimming, it took a load of MXE to break through the resistance.
I'm going to find love there, mark my words.
And THATS what you are missing. LOVE
The love of you, for you, and the love of lovers with a significant other.
Love is the message and the message is L.O.V.E. Spread it inward and outward. Receive it from the outside and the inside.
One for All ....and All for One.
Choo fucking choo choo man. Find that love train and ride it. It is in YOU. You are losing faith and hope and replace it with fear and doubt. Fear and doubt will bring you pain, faith and hope are your tickets to Love.
Love is the missing part of your equasion. Love in yourself for yourself, the love between friends and the love of lovers.
Defeat fear and doubt with courage. For me, I had severe social phobia. Body Dysmorphic Disorder which wasnt entirely far fetched as I'm quite obese.
I dragged my 360 lbs ass to the swimming pool, not scared shitless but proud like a God. Not arrogant, humble. I walked right up to the tiger and petted it.
The people love me there, most. I radiate this confidence, this love and people find it awesome. Thats not a delusion its evident by their responses towards me. Sure theres he occasional sneer but, hey people are people, thats water off a happy hippo's back.
Fear, Doubt - these are your enemies. They bring suffering. Faith, Hope - these are your allies. They bring Love.
Find your "swimming", the social experience that exposes you at your most vulnerable, and do it. But, work on yourself too. Start loving yourself. Find the love inside you and start GIVING it in all directions, inside and out.
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: k00laid]
#21903951 - 07/06/15 03:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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k00laid said:
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SleepyE said: people need social interactions and friends otherwise they go insane, its just how we are built.
ordinary men hate loneliness but the master makes use of it for he knows that he is alone with the entire universe
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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: Vsnares.Zappa]
#21904015 - 07/06/15 04:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Were social creatures by nature.
I left my home 2 years ago. Left everyone and everything behind. I know what your talking about ive been depressed for quite a while. But i just talk to everybody now. Ive met a lot of good ass people along the way.
But it can suck when i dont really know who i can call when im really feeling lonely.
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