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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: ConsciousBird]
    #21901915 - 07/05/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Have you ever practiced meditation and yoga? These 2 practices can change your life drastically. Once you realize that your thought habits control you, then you will think healthy habits, such as "This is truly extraordinary" or simply "Beautiful" instead of a negative response to a matter. In your case, I would start by noticing how beautiful in your solitary life is. Whether it's a butterfly flying, how you feel after yoga, or after you create a piece. Your art is truly very outstanding! If you ever get the chance, trip with a "spiritual" or conscious mindset, this has done wonders in improving my life. I hope this information helps you in some way, peace :stoned:



thank you so much! i really feel like meditation might help but its tough for me to devote the time to it because i feel its time i could be using improving myself, but i guess in a way that would be beneficial.

I mainly dont do it because im not sure how, i try to sometimes sit closed eyed and chant a word like "om" or something, but all i feel is a bit of lessening in the intrusive thoughts, i suppose if i do it more often it will get even better. But i have 2 options, learn coping mechanisms to deal with my crappy situation, or hone crafts that might have the potential to lift me out of my crappy situation.

i guess im caught at a crossroads into which one id like to devote my time to but i feel i have sub-consciously chosen the latter.


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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: MilkdudTitties]
    #21901934 - 07/05/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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People may need social interaction, but they also need alone time as well.

There is nothing wrong with being alone or isolated, its how you handle it that matters.

You can choose to view it negatively, or you can use it for something positive, the choice is yours



ive been isolated for too long though, i just dont want to spend whatever time i have left in life alone and isolated like im in prison.

Im missing the rest of my life and i dont want to, i want a chance to experience the stuff that most people do, im not sure why this is happening to me but i feel maybe the reason is i do not offer enough value for people to feel incentive to interact with me.

If i can create value of myself that might open the door for me to make friendships.

Im not worth anything at the moment i assume, but i feel like i can fix that, i just need time.


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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #21901943 - 07/05/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Meditation can help you work on yourself too. its just mental instead of physical.

I usually focus on my breathing. In through the nose, hold it and then exhale through the mouth. I count each breath. inhaling for several seconds, holding it for several, and exhaling for as long as i inhaled.

I try to stop thinking about everything else. The only thoughts in my mind are the numbers counting up. and those aren't even really thoughts, just time stamps.

Empty your mind of all distractions so that you are no longer thinking, just being

Edit: If you can't even see value in yourself, how will others see the value in you?

If you can see the value in yourself, you wouldn't need others to validate you




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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: MilkdudTitties]
    #21901965 - 07/05/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

you misunderstand.

i understand how hierarchy works, and we live in a society where those values are encouraged.

I see the "potential" of value in me.

Its not there because if it was i wouldnt be in this situation.

i know what im worth to society, im not an idiot.

im just smart enough to realize that and know i can change it with the right plan.


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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: MilkdudTitties]
    #21901970 - 07/05/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

OP, are you close to Ottawa?

Most importantly, are you a drug fiend fuck up?


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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
    #21901985 - 07/05/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Do you play and video games with like steam or something?
If you have steam I'm MummifiedInBongwater on there. Teambased games can be helpful for interacting with people. If you just want to talk or something feel free to PM me.

Many people feel like you do even if you think you're the only one. It's just the nature of our cultural social alienation.
It's all about how you look at things. Reality is in the eye of the beholder.
The world doesn't feel this way and certainly does not feel that way. All external feels are for the most part projected onto the world from your internal self.


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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: Patlal]
    #21902030 - 07/05/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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OP, are you close to Ottawa?

Most importantly, are you a drug fiend fuck up?



i dont think so, im just an overly curious and overly magical thinking person. But im working on that

magical thinking is what gets me in trouble, so i have to teach my brain not to make certain connections.


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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: Eggtimer]
    #21902033 - 07/05/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Do you play and video games with like steam or something?
If you have steam I'm MummifiedInBongwater on there. Teambased games can be helpful for interacting with people. If you just want to talk or something feel free to PM me.

Many people feel like you do even if you think you're the only one. It's just the nature of our cultural social alienation.
It's all about how you look at things. Reality is in the eye of the beholder.
The world doesn't feel this way and certainly does not feel that way. All external feels are for the most part projected onto the world from your internal self.



video games make me depressed so i tend to stay away from them, any activity where it feels like im wasting the last little bit of time i have with my life gives me anxiety.


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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
    #21902080 - 07/05/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Do you play and video games with like steam or something?
If you have steam I'm MummifiedInBongwater on there. Teambased games can be helpful for interacting with people. If you just want to talk or something feel free to PM me.

Many people feel like you do even if you think you're the only one. It's just the nature of our cultural social alienation.
It's all about how you look at things. Reality is in the eye of the beholder.
The world doesn't feel this way and certainly does not feel that way. All external feels are for the most part projected onto the world from your internal self.



video games make me depressed so i tend to stay away from them, any activity where it feels like im wasting the last little bit of time i have with my life gives me anxiety.




You seemed very concerned with "wasting your life" what do you want out of life? why are you not going and doing that?

I find teamspeak and video games to MUCH MUCH easier than real life sociaisation because you dont have that awkwardness and you can just do whatever but still be apart of a community.

have you considered professional help?


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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: kakashi68]
    #21902087 - 07/05/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i have no access to professional help.


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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
    #21902093 - 07/05/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i have no problem socializing really, nothing crippling, its just for some reason i dont have the opportunity and or it never goes anywhere.


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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
    #21902095 - 07/05/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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i have no access to professional help.




yes you do. What finacially? surely in canadia there is some sort of free mental health kind of thing.


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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
    #21902097 - 07/05/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Video games ARE a waste of time.

They are a fun way to waste time. Thats what they are supposed to be. Just like TV and movies.


The only difference between a waste of time and a meaningful experience is the perspective one has throughout the experience.

Life is what you make of it.


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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: kakashi68]
    #21902104 - 07/05/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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i have no access to professional help.




yes you do. What finacially? surely in canadia there is some sort of free mental health kind of thing.



nope, ive tried, they just have doctors who throw ssri's at you and say next. i dont need that shit.

That stuff has pretty much replaced professional help.


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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
    #21902106 - 07/05/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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i have no access to professional help.




yes you do. What finacially? surely in canadia there is some sort of free mental health kind of thing.



nope, ive tried, they just have doctors who throw ssri's at you and say next. i dont need that shit.

That stuff has pretty much replaced professional help.




you dont seem to be trying very hard. If you want to change. You cant just accept one bad outcome.

I ask you again. What do you want out of life there your not getting now and why are you not doing it.

Are you simply feeling pressured to fit in.

Im not talking about seeing a "doctor" see a counselor or you sound like a youth so, some sort of worker person. You have to find them.


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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: kakashi68]
    #21902113 - 07/05/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

ive tried, the best i could get what a 1 time only appointment with a pill therapist and i had to wait a month so i just said fuck it and canceled,

thats literally the best you can get if you dont have deep pockets.


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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
    #21902121 - 07/05/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

suffer a lot and keep making great art.


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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: kakashi68]
    #21902125 - 07/05/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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you dont seem to be trying very hard. If you want to change. You cant just accept one bad outcome.

I ask you again. What do you want out of life there your not getting now and why are you not doing it.




building social circles,

loneliness is not that difficult, im not around enough people who i feel welcome with, this causes me distress, and i have bad memories that contribute to the distress and make me feel worthless.

My only option is to figure out how to up my value so more people will feel compelled to interact with me.

I guess its good to know im not the only one in the shitty condition, its interesting to know how people cope, your methods however seem rather unhealthy so i might want to avoid that.


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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: SleepyE]
    #21902129 - 07/05/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Id feel better if i was with people i felt at home with, its quite difficult for me to cultivate that with strangers in a scene im not familiar with, But i appreciate the suggestion, Id have to think of some group or club that id feel id get along with.




SleepyE - Why don't you join a lifting club or get into powerlifting?

Your a beast in the gym - why not step it up to the next level?


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Re: Why does social isolation have to hurt so fucking much [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21902136 - 07/05/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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suffer a lot and keep making great art.



do you think that suffering truly fuels creativity? ive read things articles of people trying to say that the suffering artist archetype is bullshit and people who suffer make shittier art.


but i also read a study that found creativity and mental illness like bipolar disorder to be linked.

that artists are more likely to suffer from mental illness due to how their brain works.


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