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What is the next step in the evolution of consciousness?
    #21900738 - 07/05/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Everytime I trip on shrooms or just smoke fuckhuge amounts of hash I 'sense' the power and magnitude of our consciousness, and more importantly, our special human ability which is sentience.

But the bigger question and the most important one is: What is the next step?

Well? Will we be super-sentient?? Or maybe we'll have mental powers like telepathy? Or is it just more awareness?


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Re: What is the next step in the evolution of consciousness? [Re: Hash_is_life]
    #21900827 - 07/05/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Visual language made possible by virtual reality.

Genetically improving the brain. who knows where that will go


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Re: What is the next step in the evolution of consciousness? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21900838 - 07/05/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think the next step is collective consciousness. humans for humanity, kind of like a hive mind. communism without the corruption


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Re: What is the next step in the evolution of consciousness? [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #21900845 - 07/05/15 12:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

think about it, our communication is faster than ever.


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Re: What is the next step in the evolution of consciousness? [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #21900847 - 07/05/15 12:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I think the next step is collective consciousness. humans for humanity, kind of like a hive mind. communism without the corruption



yess. the telepathic internet :awedance:


maybe this will occur in virtual reality.


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Re: What is the next step in the evolution of consciousness? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21900869 - 07/05/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

hopefully
technology allows us to communicate faster, not better. that's a huge problem. telepathy will put empathy into the mix. that'll help a lot


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Re: What is the next step in the evolution of consciousness? [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #21900892 - 07/05/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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hopefully
technology allows us to communicate faster, not better. that's a huge problem. telepathy will put empathy into the mix. that'll help a lot



Being able to produce an image just by thinking it may help.

You can already control computer functions with a "brain controller." saw it in a ted talk. Hopefully this will advance enough to be able to produce mental images in 3d virtual space.

I mean, many people think in pictures, not words. one step closer to telepathy. whatever true telepathy is.


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Re: What is the next step in the evolution of consciousness? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21901112 - 07/05/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The idea of virtual experience and virtual reality is very intriguing to me, it personally reminds me of the movie The Matrix, where the plot explains how our minds take the data from electrical implulses created by our five senses and translates it to create 'consciousness' and how it can easily be fooled by 'virtual reality', and that our minds are actually very, very powerful but we're just not aware of this power.


Perhaps the next step is to be aware of what truly lies deep inside the mind.


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Re: What is the next step in the evolution of consciousness? [Re: Hash_is_life]
    #21901119 - 07/05/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think that at one point we were aware and we used these frequently, then religion and wars started and we got pushed away from our potential. there's a monk who has taught himself to tone in his hearing to anything within like a 2 mile range.


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Re: What is the next step in the evolution of consciousness? [Re: Hash_is_life]
    #21901131 - 07/05/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

But guys what I'm trying to say here is that maybe the next step will be something like the movie Transcendence, where the mind is free from the body and it's true power is revealed.

And it's awesome! You guys MUST watch it!


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Re: What is the next step in the evolution of consciousness? [Re: Hash_is_life]
    #21901524 - 07/05/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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But guys what I'm trying to say here is that maybe the next step will be something like the movie Transcendence, where the mind is free from the body and it's true power is revealed.

And it's awesome! You guys MUST watch it!



yeah that sounds worthwhile :thumbup:


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Re: What is the next step in the evolution of consciousness? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21901830 - 07/05/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

sounds like an awesome plot concept. I think eventually we might evolve to pure consciousness, but probably not. most likely, we are in a point in time where we no longer adapt. we make the environment adapt to us..


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Re: What is the next step in the evolution of consciousness? [Re: Hash_is_life]
    #21901861 - 07/05/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well I think this is a complicated question, because reality is rather complicated when it comes to this.  There are a lot of things that would happen if cybernetic intelligence were not going to supplant us.  I think collective planetary consciousness is a part of this, for sure.  Also, space migration, with all of its attendant changes in consciousness, would clearly have to be considered as a necessary possibility, also potentially tied into the aforementioned collective mind.

However, there are two major obstacles to our unfettered evolution.  The obvious one is nuclear weapons.  We essentially have doomsday machines, and there are some pretty smart people who feel that as t approaches a large number, the probability that one will go off, whether due to accident, miscalculation or madness, goes to one hundred percent.

The other denier of unfettered hominid evolution is, of course, AI.  When technology is better and faster at any task, including thinking, what will it do with us?  Will we find a way to keep it benign and controlled, or not?  Will evolution pass the torch to superintelligent AI, and will it carry out all of the developments mentioned above?

Obviously, no one has any idea what will really happen, and it will probably surprise everyone.  But personally, purely based on my assessment of the probable, I think AI wins out, in second place (meaning slightly less probable) we have a nuclear holocaust, and in dead last we have humans continuing unfettered and unharmed, to reach whatever biological potential we carry.

Just a few thoughts.


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Re: What is the next step in the evolution of consciousness? [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #21901896 - 07/05/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i think we will integrate ourselves into technology to a point that makes AI useless


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Re: What is the next step in the evolution of consciousness? [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #21901957 - 07/05/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What if the psychedelic state becomes the norm? A conscious swap of DMT for serotonin in the human brain? How would that compare to a computer/implant? Photographic memory, super intuition, etc... I just wonder if this kind of future, weather by drugs or electronic modification, would be much more interesting than VR.


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Re: What is the next step in the evolution of consciousness? [Re: nutrip]
    #21902154 - 07/05/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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What if the psychedelic state becomes the norm? A conscious swap of DMT for serotonin in the human brain? How would that compare to a computer/implant? Photographic memory, super intuition, etc... I just wonder if this kind of future, weather by drugs or electronic modification, would be much more interesting than VR.



you could simulate the DMT experience with VR and explore as long as you'd like. :whatyougonnado:


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Re: What is the next step in the evolution of consciousness? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21902217 - 07/05/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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rbalzer said:
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What if the psychedelic state becomes the norm? A conscious swap of DMT for serotonin in the human brain? How would that compare to a computer/implant? Photographic memory, super intuition, etc... I just wonder if this kind of future, weather by drugs or electronic modification, would be much more interesting than VR.



you could simulate the DMT experience with VR and explore as long as you'd like. :whatyougonnado:




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    #21902231 - 07/05/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

AI. IMO.


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Re: What is the next step in the evolution of consciousness? [Re: Hash_is_life]
    #21902256 - 07/05/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Drugs to end war, drugs that make people better human beings, drugs that cause people to reach their full potential.

This might sound crazy, but both Nichols and Shulgin advocated for this.


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Re: What is the next step in the evolution of consciousness? [Re: Psilosopherr]
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