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Re: Well, given the current circumstances, Trump will most likely be kicked out of the Republican Party [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21900650 - 07/05/15 11:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nah, a good leader can inveigle and manipulate people into voting for them.  If they're a terrible person and can still pull that off, that's even more impressive.  As long as a number of people put their trust into them to make the decisions, that person could be considered a leader.  The best leader would just straight up take it regardless of what others thought.


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Re: Well, given the current circumstances, Trump will most likely be kicked out of the Republican Party [Re: abltsandwich]
    #21900662 - 07/05/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't say they never overlap.  I said they rarely do.  Currently we have a feckless cunt in the White House and Representatives who only give a shit about staying in office.  Real leadership is mostly absent.  That's what happens when you allow morons to vote


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Re: Well, given the current circumstances, Trump will most likely be kicked out of the Republican Party [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21900668 - 07/05/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

How do you keep morons from voting?
Doesn't everyone see most everyone else as morons in the same way that everyone thinks they're the best driver on the road?


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Re: Well, given the current circumstances, Trump will most likely be kicked out of the Republican Party [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21900702 - 07/05/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I didn't say they never overlap.  I said they rarely do.  Currently we have a feckless cunt in the White House and Representatives who only give a shit about staying in office.  Real leadership is mostly absent.  That's what happens when you allow morons to vote




They also tend to be mostly lawyers.  This is not coincidental.


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Re: Well, given the current circumstances, Trump will most likely be kicked out of the Republican Party [Re: idiotek]
    #21900712 - 07/05/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No it isn't.  Like I said earlier, hucksters.  Lawyers are professional bullshit artists and most of them couldn't manage a carwash.


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Re: Well, given the current circumstances, Trump will most likely be kicked out of the Republican Party [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21900726 - 07/05/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

they should be politicians. caring about their own, sustaining effective policy's and X'ing the not. certainly not lawyers.

they should live for political science, live as eraser and creator of the component's that make everyone around us feel squared away, while we reap the benefits. we need not plunderer's and scavenger's.

they are convincer's to their polity and poller's but most of all, they are the one's who manage the do's and do not's, and since all coordinate measure's rely on one another, it needs to remain consistent.


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Re: Well, given the current circumstances, Trump will most likely be kicked out of the Republican Party [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21900770 - 07/05/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

politics is like how a dog will just bark at some shit that isn't either there or at least isn't even near it, and is basically harmless.

what we need is the son of Mr. Green Genes to really start taking the hold.


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Re: Well, given the current circumstances, Trump will most likely be kicked out of the Republican Party [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21900780 - 07/05/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

A good leader is able to attract the vote simply by being himself.

Lead with confidence and purpose and people will follow


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Re: Well, given the current circumstances, Trump will most likely be kicked out of the Republican Party [Re: Patlal]
    #21900788 - 07/05/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

way to over simplify.


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Re: Well, given the current circumstances, Trump will most likely be kicked out of the Republican Party [Re: Patlal]
    #21900817 - 07/05/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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A good leader is able to attract the vote simply by being himself.

Lead with confidence and purpose and people will follow



That is quite bullshit.  Good leaders rarely win popularity contests and that is what the elections are.


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Re: Well, given the current circumstances, Trump will most likely be kicked out of the [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21900833 - 07/05/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Trump is not a serious contender and will never be seen as one by the electorate.  He's essentially a media whoring sideshow spectacle and it's amusing that you guys are even giving him a serious second thought.  If you can't see through the thinly veiled publicity stunt then I feel bad for you.




True, I see it the same way. The publicity he gets will put lots of money in his pocket and bring deals to the table. If he can avoid any more Mexican type remarks. No shot of winning but I'd take him over jeb, hill-bily, obumble or most of the rest. It is a publicity stunt. No the gop will not go on record as disavowing him though individuals will.

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No it isn't.  Like I said earlier, hucksters.  Lawyers are professional bullshit artists and most of them couldn't manage a carwash.




True, take a look at obumble's handling of the economy. Or of foreign affairs, or damn near anything. Give me a businessman over a lawyer anyday.


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Re: Well, given the current circumstances, Trump will most likely be kicked out of the [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21900884 - 07/05/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

ugh who is more bloodsucking? Stonehedge you really would suck the blood out of a stone.


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Re: Well, given the current circumstances, Trump will most likely be kicked out of the Republican Party [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21901179 - 07/05/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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How many times has trump said he's gonna run? He just does EVERYTHING he can to make his name relevant wherever possible. No matter how shameless.



Lots, but this time he has already joined the race. He's more of a candidate than Scott Walker at this point.



No.  Trump has no shot and I don't think that Walker has even announced yet



Exactly my point. Someone suggested trump wasn't a real candidate, and I refuted that by noting that Walker, a potential presidential candidate, hasn't entered the race yet. ATM, trump is more of a candidate than walker.


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Re: Well, given the current circumstances, Trump will most likely be kicked out of the Republican Party [Re: Webster10]
    #21901182 - 07/05/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I believe Walker is leading the polls in Iowa.


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Re: Well, given the current circumstances, Trump will most likely be kicked out of the Republican Party [Re: idiotek]
    #21901189 - 07/05/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Geoff Peterson said:
Trump is not a serious contender and will never be seen as one by the electorate.  He's essentially a media whoring sideshow spectacle and it's amusing that you guys are even giving him a serious second thought.  If you can't see through the thinly veiled publicity stunt then I feel bad for you.



Feel bad for me all you want. Whatever his motives may be, he would kick ass in office. Who in your opinion would be a better candidate?


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Re: Well, given the current circumstances, Trump will most likely be kicked out of the Republican Party [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21901192 - 07/05/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I believe Walker is leading the polls in Iowa.



Yeah, in Iowa. Nationally Trump is ranking second only behind bush


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Re: Well, given the current circumstances, Trump will most likely be kicked out of the Republican Party [Re: Webster10]
    #21901201 - 07/05/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

People are just tired of being force fed these stiffs and having to choose the lesser of the evils.


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Re: Well, given the current circumstances, Trump will most likely be kicked out of the Republican Party [Re: Webster10]
    #21901204 - 07/05/15 02:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

im pretty sure walker can't win period because all the unions will refuse to vote for him


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Re: Well, given the current circumstances, Trump will most likely be kicked out of the Republican Party [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21901211 - 07/05/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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People are just tired of being force fed these stiffs and having to choose the lesser of the evils.



Nobody is being forcefed anything.  There's more than 10 candidates.  If you don't think that's enough run yourself.  Guess how much that will decrease the percentage of idiots in the field.


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Re: Well, given the current circumstances, Trump will most likely be kicked out of the Republican Party [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21901226 - 07/05/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

10 rich people, where is the poor, on welfare bums that represent 80% of america?

and instead of clinton we should have a trailer park mom with 25 kids


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