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Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH]
    #21899802 - 07/05/15 06:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township

Family found cookies in fridge at grandparents house, officials say

UPDATED 6:55 PM EDT Jul 04, 2015

ANDERSON TOWNSHIP, Ohio —Emergency crews responded to reports of a 3-year-old girl who ate marijuana-laced cookies in Anderson Township.

Investigators were called to the 7200 block of Gungadin Drive about 9:30 p.m. Friday.

Hamilton County sheriff deputies said a father, wife and their 3-year-old daughter had been at the grandparents house to watch fireworks.

Detectives said the grandparents were not home and the family found cookies in the fridge and ate one each.

A little while later the father said he started feeling funny, investigators said.

That's when officials said the family realized the cookies had marijuana.

911 Caller: "My wife and I had eaten them and then my daughter because we didn't' know, and so we're wigging out right now and we're just afraid she is too."

The child was taken to the hospital and is expected to be OK, investigators said.

Detectives said no one has been charged in the incident.

http://www.wlwt.com/news/report-3yearold-eats-marijuanalaced-cookie-in-anderson-township/33989998


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: D.M.T] * 2
    #21899851 - 07/05/15 06:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sucks that it happened, but in the end it's no ones fault. Those grandparents sound cool as shit though.

But the kid will be fine. Personally I think that taking her to the hospital was a bit too much. I accidentally drank beer when I was a little kid. They also gave me sedatives during a surgery once, I called it "goofy juice". Ended up flashing everyone. I bet that the weed edible was far safer for the kid than that.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: Achillita]
    #21899993 - 07/05/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It was a girl.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: Matt87]
    #21900002 - 07/05/15 08:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Oops. I overlooked that. Fixed it.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: Achillita] * 1
    #21900179 - 07/05/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

3 year old accidentally eats pot, is fine but wants more cookies.
Wow Cannabis is such a dangerous drug.

The chocolate was certainly more dangerous to the 3 year old than pot and in this case it's not a joke, chocolate poisoning can kill little kids.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: StygianKnight]
    #21900214 - 07/05/15 09:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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StygianKnight said:
3 year old accidentally eats pot, is fine but wants more cookies.
Wow Cannabis is such a dangerous drug.

The chocolate was certainly more dangerous to the 3 year old than pot and in this case it's not a joke, chocolate poisoning can kill little kids.



Come on now. Pot has to be bad for a 3 year old. It's not going to kill anyone but that has to have a negative impact on brain development.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: Matt87] * 1
    #21900265 - 07/05/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Pot abuse sure, but a single exposure, it's doubtful it will have any long term effects.
THC interacts with cannabinoid receptors that are already there interacting with neurotransmitters.
So sure the system got a little confused for a bit, but it didn't like rearrange her brain or anything.
Whatever minor changes that happened will be corrected once the substance is no longer in her system.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: StygianKnight]
    #21900331 - 07/05/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't buy that. It goes against common sense.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: Matt87]
    #21900343 - 07/05/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

This actually goes as fault to the grandparents. Just as one doesn't leave their opiate medication in random unmarked bottled one shouldn't leave their cannabis edibles out without them being marked and labeled as edibles of a certain strength. Cannabis overdose is easy.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: Matt87] * 1
    #21900358 - 07/05/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

How i imagine the 911 call should have gone

"honey, i think those cookies had some weed in them."
"yeah, me too. we should call 911"
"this is 911, whats your emergency?"
"my family ate some cookies with pot in them!"
"sir, this line is for emergencies."
"but pot cookies!"
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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: Matt87] * 2
    #21900453 - 07/05/15 10:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Matt87 said:
I don't buy that. It goes against common sense.



You don't have to buy it for it to be true.
"Common sense" is almost always bunk.

However tell me in detail what common sense says; what is the mechanism for permanent damage?


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: StygianKnight] * 1
    #21900581 - 07/05/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Don't help yourself to other people's food? Idk maybe they needed a lesson in common courtesy.. Also don't go to the hospital! Any idiot knows pot can't kill, do you wanna get your child's stomach pumped for eating a little weed?


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: FractalMind] * 1
    #21900602 - 07/05/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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tacodude said:
This actually goes as fault to the grandparents. Just as one doesn't leave their opiate medication in random unmarked bottled one shouldn't leave their cannabis edibles out without them being marked and labeled as edibles of a certain strength. Cannabis overdose is easy.



It's their own home. You could say it's unsafe for friends if a coke head leaves his coke laying around in lines on his table and under his coke cans because they don't know what it is but maybe they should mind their own fucking business to begin with. This is their home.

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Don't help yourself to other people's food? Idk maybe they needed a lesson in common courtesy.. Also don't go to the hospital! Any idiot knows pot can't kill, do you wanna get your child's stomach pumped for eating a little weed?



Reminds me of when my dad was living with me for a while and he went to make a chili. He thought the hot sauce in my fridge was Frank's Red Hot, but I had Blair's Sudden Death in it because I broke the cap for the bottle it was in. He put in a couple tablespoons. It was the most unbearable shit ever. He complained about my mislabelled hot sauce, I told him he should consider first what he's eating out of my fridge, especially because I make my own sauces.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21901004 - 07/05/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:whathesaid:

I bet years from now, the grandparents will be eating ganja cookies with their grand kids laughing about this incident and their parents reactions.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21901474 - 07/05/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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tacodude said:
This actually goes as fault to the grandparents. Just as one doesn't leave their opiate medication in random unmarked bottled one shouldn't leave their cannabis edibles out without them being marked and labeled as edibles of a certain strength. Cannabis overdose is easy.



It's their own home. You could say it's unsafe for friends if a coke head leaves his coke laying around in lines on his table and under his coke cans because they don't know what it is but maybe they should mind their own fucking business to begin with. This is their home.



Cannibis edibles is one thing that is easy to mistaken as a sweet treat  rather than a possibly intoxicating substance.... On the other hand a line of coke is a line of coke and I doubt any cokehead leaves lines of coke under cola cans.... (eyeroll) As well as anyone putting lines of powder cannot tell me they are not trying to emulate cocaine. Now if someone leaves a pound of coke in their kitchen, unmarked, and mixed with bags of sugar, flour, etc. that would be the damn cokeheads fault if someone cooked a cake with coke instead of flour or sugar..... Just imagine that.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: StygianKnight]
    #21901546 - 07/05/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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StygianKnight said:
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Matt87 said:
I don't buy that. It goes against common sense.



You don't have to buy it for it to be true.
"Common sense" is almost always bunk.

However tell me in detail what common sense says; what is the mechanism for permanent damage?



Dude, I'm a huge pot advocate. It has given me so much. I don't even need to ask if you're a parent- if you had a daughter you would see this differently. I don't even want my kids to hear curse words till they are a certain age. You wouldn't want your baby's brains temporarily scrambled for any reason.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: tacodude]
    #21901606 - 07/05/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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tacodude said:
Quote:

XLCaps said:
Quote:

tacodude said:
This actually goes as fault to the grandparents. Just as one doesn't leave their opiate medication in random unmarked bottled one shouldn't leave their cannabis edibles out without them being marked and labeled as edibles of a certain strength. Cannabis overdose is easy.



It's their own home. You could say it's unsafe for friends if a coke head leaves his coke laying around in lines on his table and under his coke cans because they don't know what it is but maybe they should mind their own fucking business to begin with. This is their home.



Cannibis edibles is one thing that is easy to mistaken as a sweet treat  rather than a possibly intoxicating substance.... On the other hand a line of coke is a line of coke and I doubt any cokehead leaves lines of coke under cola cans.... (eyeroll) As well as anyone putting lines of powder cannot tell me they are not trying to emulate cocaine. Now if someone leaves a pound of coke in their kitchen, unmarked, and mixed with bags of sugar, flour, etc. that would be the damn cokeheads fault if someone cooked a cake with coke instead of flour or sugar..... Just imagine that.



People do leave lines and piles under cans so airflow doesn't blow it away.

If this were shrooms I'd be saying the same thing.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21902220 - 07/05/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: PsilocybinMan]
    #21902742 - 07/05/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

my dog ate MDMA once... i had to pet him for like hours. he would whine when i stopped it was kinda weird but hes cool now


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: shopdropper]
    #21902943 - 07/05/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

about 10 years ago, this chick friend of mine threw a houseparty. Someone brought her a bunch of little bags of K all in a bigger bag. she left the bag on her dining room table.  hours later, we come back to the dining room to find all the baggies strewn about, ripped apart, and licked out.  Her dog was k-holed at the foot of the stairs...for a awhile.  everything worked itself out in the end.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: Matt87] * 2
    #21903102 - 07/05/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Matt87 said:
Quote:

StygianKnight said:
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Matt87 said:
I don't buy that. It goes against common sense.



You don't have to buy it for it to be true.
"Common sense" is almost always bunk.

However tell me in detail what common sense says; what is the mechanism for permanent damage?



Dude, I'm a huge pot advocate. It has given me so much. I don't even need to ask if you're a parent- if you had a daughter you would see this differently. I don't even want my kids to hear curse words till they are a certain age. You wouldn't want your baby's brains temporarily scrambled for any reason.




So you admit you have no idea what, if any, damage a marijuana cookie could do to a toddler. You only presume it to be so, because you are a parent. That's some interesting logic.:rolleyes:


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: Heffy]
    #21903221 - 07/05/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Instincts are there for a reason. Mine have served me well thus far. I haven't looked into it but I bet there are ZERO studies on the effects of edibles on toddlers because it would obviously be stupid to even test. It just seems wrong.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: Heffy]
    #21903222 - 07/05/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

haha what a joke "she's expected to be ok" ... ITS FUCKING MARIJUANA OF COURSE SHE WILL BE OK. I understand its a 3 year old, but come on, it's just some pot.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: Matt87]
    #21903770 - 07/06/15 01:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Matt87 said:
You wouldn't want your baby's brains temporarily scrambled for any reason.



I think part of the problem is you are thinking of it as "scrambled."  As I assume you know THC binds to receptors in the brain which then activate or inactivate neurons which causes noticeable changes in perception however they are eventually released or torn off and are destroyed.  Of course this doesn't just happen with THC but many other alkaloids, coffee is a good example, but it doesn't scramble peoples brains.  That it changes your perception might make it seem like it's scrambling brains but that's just your brain slightly off balance.
You are right in being worried about the kid, but based on many cases most likely the biggest problems are the fear of what is going on and the fear of being accidentally dosed again.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: StygianKnight]
    #21903779 - 07/06/15 01:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The worst part about this is they weren't expecting it. All the grown ups have to feel shitty about it. Even the police know it was an honest mistake, so they didn't arrest anyone.

A one time exposure probably isn't going to do any long term damage, besides maybe make the kid more or less prone to becoming a stoner later in life.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: D.M.T]
    #21907829 - 07/06/15 11:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Grandma always makes the best cookies :wink:


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: LSDaytripper]
    #21908156 - 07/07/15 02:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Even medical textbooks say that marijuana has not been proven to cause any negative impacts on brain development.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: InDivision]
    #21908166 - 07/07/15 02:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I wonder if the parents were more comfortable stoners if they would have stayed and taken care of their child instead of worrying and running for help


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: Black_Sunset]
    #21908346 - 07/07/15 05:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I would have waited for adverse effects like maybe puking, fading, general sickness. The shitty part about an edible is it would last all day. There's a chance they would just fall asleep which would be concerning. I realize it's weed but an underdeveloped mind would react differently. I remember reading of a death related to a young girl picking and eating wild cyans, though it was old and the identification is questionable.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21908394 - 07/07/15 05:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe the parents were just too high to think straight about the situation. They did say they were wigging out.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: InDivision]
    #21908415 - 07/07/15 06:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Even medical textbooks say that marijuana has not been proven to cause any negative impacts on brain development.



This doesn't apply to young children. If you think so, point us towards these "textbooks"


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: Matt87] * 1
    #21911092 - 07/07/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Situations like this, where a very young child is exposed to a very high level of marijuana, are not necessarily completely harmless.

Apparently there have been severe cases of respiratory depression, seizure, and coma.  These things could conceivably cause permanent brain damage. 

http://archpedi.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1691419&resultclick=1

http://cpj.sagepub.com/content/early/2015/06/03/0009922815589912.full

In the study linked only 1.1% of cases involved any of those most severe reactions, and it doesn't go into whether there was any follow-up on the children's outcome,  but there is a possibility for it to happen. 

I am not sure there have even been any cases of confirmed brain damage to a small child who was exposed to marijuana.  It would be caused by starving the brain of oxygen, due to asphyxiation from either respiratory depression and/or choking on vomit.  It's not the drug itself that is toxic. 

It's not always the right choice to avoid hospitalizing a small child that's exposed high levels of marijuana.  In most cases monitoring the child would be fine.  But if they started turning blue from not breathing properly I'd rather be at a health care facility where they could quickly assist in ventilation, as much of a bummer that would be as far as vibe and cost.  If it were my child I would assess the risk myself based on their age, the amount of marijuana they ingested, and what their reaction was.  I would head to the hospital if they seemed to not be getting enough oxygen, and were not responding to efforts to rouse them, such as a sternum rub.


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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: Hippocampus]
    #21922425 - 07/09/15 10:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Hippocampus said:
Situations like this, where a very young child is exposed to a very high level of marijuana, are not necessarily completely harmless.

Apparently there have been severe cases of respiratory depression, seizure, and coma.  These things could conceivably cause permanent brain damage. 

http://archpedi.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1691419&resultclick=1

http://cpj.sagepub.com/content/early/2015/06/03/0009922815589912.full

In the study linked only 1.1% of cases involved any of those most severe reactions, and it doesn't go into whether there was any follow-up on the children's outcome,  but there is a possibility for it to happen. 

I am not sure there have even been any cases of confirmed brain damage to a small child who was exposed to marijuana.  It would be caused by starving the brain of oxygen, due to asphyxiation from either respiratory depression and/or choking on vomit.  It's not the drug itself that is toxic. 

It's not always the right choice to avoid hospitalizing a small child that's exposed high levels of marijuana.  In most cases monitoring the child would be fine.  But if they started turning blue from not breathing properly I'd rather be at a health care facility where they could quickly assist in ventilation, as much of a bummer that would be as far as vibe and cost.  If it were my child I would assess the risk myself based on their age, the amount of marijuana they ingested, and what their reaction was.  I would head to the hospital if they seemed to not be getting enough oxygen, and were not responding to efforts to rouse them, such as a sternum rub.




^ This

Also, if I was the parent I'd be concerned not just about respiratory distress at the moment, but later on after I had potentially fallen asleep.  Keep in mind, it looks like this happened at night and I can monitor my child's breathing when I'm awake, but I can't stay up as late or well as I used to; if it was late and I was under the influence of potent edibles, I could very well fall asleep.


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Everything i say is completely hypothetical...



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