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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: Matt87] 2
#21903102 - 07/05/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Matt87 said: I don't buy that. It goes against common sense.
You don't have to buy it for it to be true. "Common sense" is almost always bunk.
However tell me in detail what common sense says; what is the mechanism for permanent damage?
Dude, I'm a huge pot advocate. It has given me so much. I don't even need to ask if you're a parent- if you had a daughter you would see this differently. I don't even want my kids to hear curse words till they are a certain age. You wouldn't want your baby's brains temporarily scrambled for any reason.
So you admit you have no idea what, if any, damage a marijuana cookie could do to a toddler. You only presume it to be so, because you are a parent. That's some interesting logic.
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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: Heffy]
#21903221 - 07/05/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Instincts are there for a reason. Mine have served me well thus far. I haven't looked into it but I bet there are ZERO studies on the effects of edibles on toddlers because it would obviously be stupid to even test. It just seems wrong.
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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: Heffy]
#21903222 - 07/05/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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haha what a joke "she's expected to be ok" ... ITS FUCKING MARIJUANA OF COURSE SHE WILL BE OK. I understand its a 3 year old, but come on, it's just some pot.
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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: Matt87]
#21903770 - 07/06/15 01:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Matt87 said: You wouldn't want your baby's brains temporarily scrambled for any reason.
I think part of the problem is you are thinking of it as "scrambled." As I assume you know THC binds to receptors in the brain which then activate or inactivate neurons which causes noticeable changes in perception however they are eventually released or torn off and are destroyed. Of course this doesn't just happen with THC but many other alkaloids, coffee is a good example, but it doesn't scramble peoples brains. That it changes your perception might make it seem like it's scrambling brains but that's just your brain slightly off balance. You are right in being worried about the kid, but based on many cases most likely the biggest problems are the fear of what is going on and the fear of being accidentally dosed again.
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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: StygianKnight]
#21903779 - 07/06/15 01:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The worst part about this is they weren't expecting it. All the grown ups have to feel shitty about it. Even the police know it was an honest mistake, so they didn't arrest anyone.
A one time exposure probably isn't going to do any long term damage, besides maybe make the kid more or less prone to becoming a stoner later in life.
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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: D.M.T]
#21907829 - 07/06/15 11:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Grandma always makes the best cookies
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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: LSDaytripper]
#21908156 - 07/07/15 02:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Even medical textbooks say that marijuana has not been proven to cause any negative impacts on brain development.
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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: InDivision]
#21908166 - 07/07/15 02:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wonder if the parents were more comfortable stoners if they would have stayed and taken care of their child instead of worrying and running for help
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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: Black_Sunset]
#21908346 - 07/07/15 05:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would have waited for adverse effects like maybe puking, fading, general sickness. The shitty part about an edible is it would last all day. There's a chance they would just fall asleep which would be concerning. I realize it's weed but an underdeveloped mind would react differently. I remember reading of a death related to a young girl picking and eating wild cyans, though it was old and the identification is questionable.
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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: larry.fisherman]
#21908394 - 07/07/15 05:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Maybe the parents were just too high to think straight about the situation. They did say they were wigging out.
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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: InDivision]
#21908415 - 07/07/15 06:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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InDivision said: Even medical textbooks say that marijuana has not been proven to cause any negative impacts on brain development.
This doesn't apply to young children. If you think so, point us towards these "textbooks"
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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: Matt87] 1
#21911092 - 07/07/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Situations like this, where a very young child is exposed to a very high level of marijuana, are not necessarily completely harmless.
Apparently there have been severe cases of respiratory depression, seizure, and coma. These things could conceivably cause permanent brain damage.
http://archpedi.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1691419&resultclick=1
http://cpj.sagepub.com/content/early/2015/06/03/0009922815589912.full
In the study linked only 1.1% of cases involved any of those most severe reactions, and it doesn't go into whether there was any follow-up on the children's outcome, but there is a possibility for it to happen.
I am not sure there have even been any cases of confirmed brain damage to a small child who was exposed to marijuana. It would be caused by starving the brain of oxygen, due to asphyxiation from either respiratory depression and/or choking on vomit. It's not the drug itself that is toxic.
It's not always the right choice to avoid hospitalizing a small child that's exposed high levels of marijuana. In most cases monitoring the child would be fine. But if they started turning blue from not breathing properly I'd rather be at a health care facility where they could quickly assist in ventilation, as much of a bummer that would be as far as vibe and cost. If it were my child I would assess the risk myself based on their age, the amount of marijuana they ingested, and what their reaction was. I would head to the hospital if they seemed to not be getting enough oxygen, and were not responding to efforts to rouse them, such as a sternum rub.
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Re: Investigators: 3-year-old eats marijuana-laced cookie in Anderson Township [OH] [Re: Hippocampus]
#21922425 - 07/09/15 10:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hippocampus said: Situations like this, where a very young child is exposed to a very high level of marijuana, are not necessarily completely harmless.
Apparently there have been severe cases of respiratory depression, seizure, and coma. These things could conceivably cause permanent brain damage.
http://archpedi.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1691419&resultclick=1
http://cpj.sagepub.com/content/early/2015/06/03/0009922815589912.full
In the study linked only 1.1% of cases involved any of those most severe reactions, and it doesn't go into whether there was any follow-up on the children's outcome, but there is a possibility for it to happen.
I am not sure there have even been any cases of confirmed brain damage to a small child who was exposed to marijuana. It would be caused by starving the brain of oxygen, due to asphyxiation from either respiratory depression and/or choking on vomit. It's not the drug itself that is toxic.
It's not always the right choice to avoid hospitalizing a small child that's exposed high levels of marijuana. In most cases monitoring the child would be fine. But if they started turning blue from not breathing properly I'd rather be at a health care facility where they could quickly assist in ventilation, as much of a bummer that would be as far as vibe and cost. If it were my child I would assess the risk myself based on their age, the amount of marijuana they ingested, and what their reaction was. I would head to the hospital if they seemed to not be getting enough oxygen, and were not responding to efforts to rouse them, such as a sternum rub.
^ This
Also, if I was the parent I'd be concerned not just about respiratory distress at the moment, but later on after I had potentially fallen asleep. Keep in mind, it looks like this happened at night and I can monitor my child's breathing when I'm awake, but I can't stay up as late or well as I used to; if it was late and I was under the influence of potent edibles, I could very well fall asleep.
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