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Second flush, grow box feels lighter than it should. Prev: How to best dry my shrooms?
    #21899679 - 07/05/15 04:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Second post is a few lines below this one, currently I've got my mushrooms on a grille with 2 fans on them, they're about 80% dry but not cracker dry. I found a cap that was. It weighed like 3g (maybe it's not fully dried yet though it's shrivelled and hard to the touch, like I could snap it in half. The stipe I ate yesterday was like biting into medium rare steak, these are meaty shrooms.
So onto the topic at hand. When I got my lazyman growbox in the mail (don't worry, I took a print of two caps and intend to do my own grow. Maybe make some liquid mycelium then use it for inoculations for faster growth) it felt rather heavy, almost like it was filled with very wet dirt. Once I was done harvesting I the soak bag out of the fridge (I just knotted an airtight bag) and noticed it had leaked into the bag and ruptured the bag in a few places, upon looking at the side of the container it was about half full with water (it would be impossible to ship with water as my box would be soaked by the time it got here, naturally) but the full 12 hours were up so I poured the excess water off and the box felt rather light, about 1/3 to 1/2 as light as it did when I got it. The only thing I can think of is that since substrate is pre soaked they pressure soaked the substrate before inoculation, which you can't do with live mycelium without getting dead mycelium.
I've been keeping the bag very humid and been looking around for some tape to plug the gaping holes as the mycelium is growing back and I don't want it to get ill. Couldn't find tape so settled for pinching the sides and using blu-tack. I've also been giving the mycelium about 3-5 shots of 'rain' from my sprayer at a range of about 1-1.5m to dampen the substrate. The mycelium does seem to be growing and as soon as I noticed it was lighter I mailed the vendor and they said that re-soaking it would probably kill the kit and that the second flush is usually smaller than the first (330g wet, very potent shrooms)
All I'm really asking is the box going to be okay or have I killed it/stunted it badly? Followed the instructions to the letter, the only thing I did wrong was use too small of a soak bag.
It's been about 36h since I took it out and it seems healthy, there looks like there's new growth on top so should I be all good and just give the shrooms their dose of light rain every day to moisten things up, but not soak them?
Cheers, you guys have been really helpful so far; I hope you can help with this.
-Dia





Hi guys. Second post here and I'm starting to have massive growth in my shrooms, I've had to open the top of my grow bag (it was a grow kit though I'll not mention any brand names, however it involved paper clips and a bag, which I made extra FEA holes in, as instructed by you in a previous thread).
Should I just make a small monotub out of old tuppaware that's been steeped in boiling water, cut a few holes and drop it in there?
When 'clipped down' some pins touch the sides of the bag, I assume this will stunt their growth, or at least cause bruising and loss of potency?

So should I move for a transfer out of the chokebag and into a small tuppaware tub that I'll cut some holes in?
As of right now I have the bag fully open with a sheet of paper covering the gaping hole, mostly. Though I would assume this isn't the best.

As of last thread depending on how I'll need to set this up  I'll run a time-lapse.

Pics of today's growth inbound:






The final image is off site as I was having problems uploading at the start. But that box fits in the bag with about 1cm each side, tapering off to 0cm and into the minus numbers when clipped down.

Here is the off-site link


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21899731 - 07/05/15 05:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Beautiful pinset!!!!

You could fruit them open air...
Just mist more to keep it from drying out.

you can build a terrarium w/ perlite..

Or, you could use a gallon ziplock bag as a "dome"
I would cut a 1.5" circle into each side of the ziplock though and stuff lightly with polyfil.


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21899748 - 07/05/15 05:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They may be fine as they are.  Hitting the plastic bag probably won't do much.  The constant moisture would be bad long term, but they'll probably be mature within a day or two.  Also it might we worth lighting them from a side angle.  Sometimes they seem to grow sideways toward the light.

Probably better going with a shotgun/mono hybrid design at this small size if you must change container.

I have one made out of a 3qt tub shaped tupperware container that works well.  small holes half inch above sub level spaced two inches apart.  Soldering irons work well for burning holes in some thinner plastic containers (pp5 for one.)  Mist 1-2x daily.  Good for future minigrows with half quart of spawn and 2/3 qt coir or something.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #21899750 - 07/05/15 05:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Beautiful pinset!!!!

You could fruit them open air...
Just mist more to keep it from drying out.

you can build a terrarium w/ perlite..

Or, you could use a gallon ziplock bag as a "dome"
I would cut a 1.5" circle into each side of the ziplock though and stuff lightly with polyfil.



I know, right. This is all from a 'lazyman' grow kit too but I listened to you guys, cut + shaped holes which can be dialled up or down as the plastic is semi-rigid, or well plastic to the touch. The A4 paper arrangment seems to be working well (I've set two sheets crossing over eachother to cover the gaping hole in the top)
Until the pins grow too big for that arrangement, or if A4 paper can be known to carry nasties (been sitting there a year in the bags used for printer refills, open. Took some sheets from the middle) I'll run down to the hardware store/warehouse and see if I can't pick anything up from there.
Edit. See the mushrooms with black caps? They aren't infected with anything are they or are they 'aborts', the kit is AA+ (albino A+ and is a fast grower. Those are pictures of it 8 days after it arriving in the mail)


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21899765 - 07/05/15 05:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They arent infected, just aborted.
Still good to eat.


&& again well done on tht pinset! :thumbup:
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They may be fine as they are.  Hitting the plastic bag probably won't do much.  The constant moisture would be bad long term, but they'll probably be mature within a day or two.  Also it might we worth lighting them from a side angle.  Sometimes they seem to grow sideways toward the light.

Probably better going with a shotgun/mono hybrid design at this small size if you must change container.

I have one made out of a 3qt tub shaped tupperware container that works well.  small holes half inch above sub level spaced two inches apart.  Soldering irons work well for burning holes in some thinner plastic containers (pp5 for one.)  Mist 1-2x daily.  Good for future minigrows with half quart of spawn and 2/3 qt coir or something.




:lolwut:
The caps touching the plastic wont cause any ill effect..


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #21899780 - 07/05/15 05:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If there is a lot of condensation on the plastic, I would personally prefer not to have them sit touching it for days getting supersaturated and funky, however, in the time it will take for his grow to complete I think it's irrelevant and it will be fine.

Mushrooms definitely aren't afraid to push against stuff.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21899807 - 07/05/15 06:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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If there is a lot of condensation on the plastic, I would personally prefer not to have them sit touching it for days getting supersaturated and funky, however, in the time it will take for his grow to complete I think it's irrelevant and it will be fine.

Mushrooms definitely aren't afraid to push against stuff.




Fair enough. How long do you reckon it'll take to grow since it's only been 8 days from 100% mycelium to knots (4 days) then pins (6 days) then this (8 days). Ballpark figure. I won't hold you to it. :grin:

Edit, the two A4 sheets of paper I was balancing on top fell inside the grow bag missing the shrooms by millimetres, one or two soggy shrooms which I'll happily brew or dry and eat with honey is much better than a a section of the grow ruined because a sheet gave each shroom a nasty paper cut.

On the topic of aborts. I hear they're more potent than your average shroom gram for gram, any truth to this?

Sorry for all the questions, first time grower. But if anyone here wants to make DMT on the cheap I can give help with that. Very easy to do and you get results in a day (well just over 24h, depends on how cold your freezer can get tbh) and you can keep on 'pulling' like we keep on flushing until no DMT remains. I got 2g off 100g of MHRB. Shit was amazing.


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21899813 - 07/05/15 06:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've typically found that once they start getting significantly longer (as it looks like yours have just begun to) they usually finish up within 2 days.  How much the pin fattens up before that seems to sort of determine how big they will get.

Just some casual conjecture based on a few observations though.

BTW what variety is that?  Those caps look almost silver.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


No, this does not look right...


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21899834 - 07/05/15 06:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Cubensis. Albino A+, or AA+ for short. It's a mutation on the A+ strain so not a true albino (spores are still coloured) but the caps should be silvery white to blue. Cool, eh?
Hell if someone were trying to make commercial gain, or just name their strain 'silvercaps' would sound awesome.:laugh:


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21899855 - 07/05/15 06:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Stem coloration threw me off.  I've seen that color pin come up on a few true albino mutants come to think of it.  They look like beauties!


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21899918 - 07/05/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Mushrooms definitely aren't afraid to push against stuff.



+1, they will just bend over. I had the lids popped off containers by the force of growing shrooms.







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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21899934 - 07/05/15 07:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Stem coloration threw me off.  I've seen that color pin come up on a few true albino mutants come to think of it.  They look like beauties!



I know right.
I bought the grow kit just because I've never liked mushrooms though mycology has started to fascinate me. Ever since I was a kid "what do you want to be when you're older" "a scientist", naturally I never knew science was a branching heap of different things when I was 4 though learning a bit of mycology on the side as well as pharm-chem (with an outlook to work for the highest bidder, licit, or otherwise so long as nobody gets hurt in the process) as my main focus would be lovely. After this I might make a small monotub or shotgun tub and use prints from some of these caps to make spore syringes, my spare room just so happens to be a temperate and humid 23c (if it overheats I open the window), come winter I'll just set up with a heat mat bought from the reptile centre in my city centre, or online.
The only real barrier is that I live with my mother (no I'm not a kid, the place is co-rented with me paying half) so if I got found out I'd just remind her that this is my property too and I've claimed the spare room as my main investment out of the £200 odd she gets a month toward the £450 rent. I'll probably just get a minor telling off and an "if the cops catch you at this don't say I didn't warn you".
Not like she was taking shrooms, acid and MDMA when she was my age and I've had the kitchen stink of weed a few times until my thinly veiled jabs "did you burn something in the oven?" "That room smells odd, are you trying some new herbal cream for your scars?" (long story short I saved her life by pulling her out of a fire and getting her rolled on the ground as she decided to throw) petrol (gas) on a lit fire as opposed to pouring it straight down, or adding motor oil and pouring (the oil thickens it up well enough), I have my own firestarting mixture of methanol, motor oil and petrol that when shaken becomes an emulsion that's not unlike thin napalm and burns extremely slowly, hissing and cracking like gunpowder, it Gets fires going very well. Though a hairdryer (basically an oxygen pump or bellows 2.0) still works best if you don't mind getting ash everywhere. but I digress, it's safer (though still extremely dangerous) to pour flammable liquids onto a lit fire. I've managed it tripping on the most intense acid tabs I've ever had so it can't be that hard) and kept these up until she moved her smoking outside as she has this thing where she can't admit to doing (illegal) drugs and is irritated by me taking them ever since she took a job as a psychologist in funny farms. Before her indoctrination as a wage slave she was pretty cool when it came to drugs and kept trying to trip me out when I walked in stoned out of my head at age 13.


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21899963 - 07/05/15 07:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I have my own firestarting mixture of methanol, motor oil and petrol that when shaken becomes an emulsion that's not unlike thin napalm and burns extremely slowly, hissing and cracking like gunpowder, it Gets fires going very well.




What about dry leaves...?  :uhoh:


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: the_other]
    #21899999 - 07/05/15 08:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Not readily available in the U.K.


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: the_other]
    #21900018 - 07/05/15 08:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I have my own firestarting mixture of methanol, motor oil and petrol that when shaken becomes an emulsion that's not unlike thin napalm and burns extremely slowly, hissing and cracking like gunpowder, it Gets fires going very well.




What about dry leaves...?  :uhoh:



I can start a fire with nothing more than some cotton (or a tampon :rolleyes: which is just extremely dense highly compressed cotton wool) some dry leaves and dried wood. Oh and a magnifying glass or a firesteel. Survivalism and basic first aid (how to suture a wound (though for small deep straight cuts store bought superglue will work better and cause less scarring than with staples or stitches; from personal experience) people should know how to set broken bones and whether an injury simply needs supportive care or if they need surgery or professional treatment as well as that they should own a tourniquet (the CAT is probably the best out there) which according to new information can be applied for hours without loss of limb; besides, losing a leg or an arm is much better than bleeding out) and finally know how to give an intramuscular, sub-Q and IV injection, perform CPR and use an AED) should be taught in schools. It would stop the hospitals from being clogged up with relatively minor injuries, like the arterial knife wound I cut into my thumb. It went so deep that running under water you could see the skin flap about, after 15 mins of pressure and elevation all I was left with was a bloodsoaked rag that you could wring blood out of, I applied my CAT one handed, kept clenching after I'd lost my distal pulse then ran the completely blood free cut under a tap; cut to the bone. I had my mother hold it shut while I glued it, leaving a small gap for drainage in-case it developed an infection.
If it had been brought to a hospital I'd have waited 4-8 hours on a doctor to put me through pain by suturing so close to the fingernail, where you can't really numb with lidocaine. About 2 months later (now) all I can see is a small white line rather than the large suture scars people get with stitches.
But I'm going off on a tangent again :blush:.
This was in the middle of winter with no wood and only coal. The starter liquid got it lit. Probably best to keep the mouth of the container well away from naked flames as methanol fumes build up and cause it to combust inside. Usually harmless but terrifying as all you hear is "whoomph" and see a flash of blue flame shoot out the end of the container.

If lighting a fire in winter it is always best to use woodchips, newspaper, or fire-lighter blocks. I'd not recommend messing around with flammable liquids unless you like second and third degree burns.

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Not readily available in the U.K.



:ducklol:
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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #21900026 - 07/05/15 08:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So much information.    Definitely print a few of those.

Invitro vtek is probably the best stealth grow and first grow.  I'm making a guide on the PF version of it.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21390984

I made shotgun minitubs.  The 25-30 quart ones run a bit dry (IMO,) though people have had success.  Shotgun tinfoil pans with plastic lids (ie bring lasagnia to party pans) work pretty well and are dirt cheap.

Your own grow is totally doable for very cheap.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21902067 - 07/05/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Machiavelliavore said:
So much information.    Definitely print a few of those.

Invitro vtek is probably the best stealth grow and first grow.  I'm making a guide on the PF version of it.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21390984

I made shotgun minitubs.  The 25-30 quart ones run a bit dry (IMO,) though people have had success.  Shotgun tinfoil pans with plastic lids (ie bring lasagnia to party pans) work pretty well and are dirt cheap.

Your own grow is totally doable for very cheap.



This was written hours ago, I fell asleep, I'm pretty sleep deprived atm.
<Start of rambling>
Hoping the mushrooms can help me get to the root of my benzo addiction and occasional Heroin use for which I'm now on subutex (I'll hopefully switch to m-done) but long story short I was 17, had two torn cruciate ligaments in my knee after being hit and thrown 20-25m by a 7 seater (never got any claim money because the only real witness was a compulsive liar), I didn't know what day it was. Turns out I got lucky as some kid my age (at the time) died there a year to that day) that was full of noisy kids and an inattentive driver, and her husband, who berated me for smashing his front window with my head. when in hospital they kept me in for a week because the totally incompetent doctors x-rayed my right leg twice instead of a left and right (it took them a day to realise this; thank fuck I've only got one spine) and despite me saying "my left leg is broken, I know what a broken bone feels like" for those 24 hours they put me on meds (NSAIDS which exacerbate broken bones until a senior doctor eventually came over to me after I kept waking up with a yelp as my leg twitched (before this I was told that I was very lucky and my knee was just strained when it was 3x it's normal size, they even tried to make me walk on it; I vaguely remember telling the nurse something about a scalding hot watermelon and her backside), the doctor coming my way asked me to come down to the X-ray room, when I asked why "we had a junior doctor do your x-rays and in they must have accidentally done two x-rays of your right leg, within 10 minutes I was told it was broken (to which I replied 'broken bone, morphine please') eventually I got set up on a children's (17 at the time) ward and after the nurse doing a shitty job of washing vomit out of my hair (this is a whole other story, but they wanted me to vomit in the supine position (I had been asking for antiemetics for an hour) and when I vomited they hooked me up to the shittiest suction machine ever, they refused to tilt me and tried to hold me down, it was only when base instinct (drowning on my own vomit) kicked in and a tried/might have punched a doctor did they back off so I could sit slightly up and lean, filling my long hippie hair with vomit, this has left me with a phobia of any medical professional working on me, I know in my (very pleasant) dentists there were fingernail marks left on the chair after my visit. The nurse did a half assed job of washing my hair so all I could smell for a week was vomit, in the end after a surgeon wanted to do open, exploratory surgery on my knee as their MRI was broken I told him that all I've seen so far was incompetence from these doctors and nurses and he wouldn't be touching my knee. The anaestheseologist was nice enough (but the knee surgeon was a pompous arsehole who kept throwing his name around, when I spoke to a leading specialist a yearr later he had never heard of surgeon cuntface) (they had a cup of tea while the 17 year old girl across for me kept practically yelling nurse and pounding on the call button so I had to drag my self to a wheelchair and wheel 10m to the nursing station where I could hear her loud and clear they were eating biscuits and drinking tea, turning up the volume on the TV to drown out the girl's (and another boy's) cries for her help, they didn't notice me until I scared the shit out of them with an "'ahem'; are you fucking deaf, I can hear two people calling you and instead of doing what you're paid to do you drink tea, eat biscuits and turn up the volume to ignore cries for help" to which they yelled at me for being out of bed with a broken leg and used wheeling me back to my bed as an 'excuse' to talk to the girl who's PCA wasn't giving a high enough dose.
But back to the surgeon who wanted to leave a 6" scar just to see what was wrong, I demanded to be discharged the next day; he then went to my mother and tried to get her to sign a consent form as I was 17. While he was outside I broke into my secret stash of Liquorice Allsorts and slowly ate them while the surgeon came in "Oh man these are delicious, I was starving, pity your nurses fasted me for 3 days when they knew you would be in today and today only, I just couldn't help myself. Turns out my mother had been sweet talked into signing by the surgeon but eating 12/24 hours before a surgery means no surgery so the look from the surgeon was one of those looks when someone suddenly gets slapped in the face. He spat at the foot of my bed and stomped out of the ward in a childish tantrum.
I was given a cast, taught how to use crutches and discharged one day later against medical advice. #1 on my agenda, wash the chunks of vomit from my hair #2 go to the main hospital for the city with an excellent reputation, there I was fast-tracked to a knee specialist who said she saw no need for surgery until the break had healed due to the type of it (I was able to explain it to her) but I might need a replacement knee before 30, I was also told the hospital had put the wrong type of cast on my leg which could potentially cause issues in walking, so off that heavy POP cast came and a nice lightweight composite one was applied, this was probably the NHS at it's best.
My aunt from England came over, heard my story, personally drove down to the hospital with me and started yelling at all the nurses who had been on (basically I was the fingerman) and made sure she sent a complaint to the medical authority for that borough.

<End of half of rambling on>

After being dischaged from 20mg diamorphine (Heroin, 100% pure) was put on buprenorphine-transdermal 10ug/hr, and tramadol. So naturally I went to the person I knew who had cancer and sold her oxies and it progressed from there. Doctors have to get the idea that young people don't feel pain out of their backwards minds. They gave my grandmother fentanyl patches for a slight pain in her neck, when they don't hand out oxies or the like for a broken leg and multiple torn ligaments (there were lots, the cruciates are just the most important (cruciate = crucial in Latin IIRC))

It is lots of info but it's worth learning (I assume you mean the medical side of things), I'll put it this way; I had to suture a close friend up. I have lidocaine on hand and the means to dispense that at a site subcutaneousely or just squirt it directly into the wound (usually with a small amount of stimulant vasoconstrictor such as crystal meth (in sub psychoavtive amounts, like 1mg, to stop the lidocaine being washed away by blood so quickly. Dentists use noradrenaline but it's hard if not impossible to get so beggars can't be choosers) so I would usually use either sterile suture or if that was unavailable dental floss that has been steamed (which again I had to use), if you can't get a needle driver or simply don't have one use needle nose pliers unless the wound is in an unusual place requiring more precision. If you don't have a suture needle use wire cutters or tin snips to shorten a normal needle to about half size. A belt sander and sharpening hone (the Lansky kit is good for sharpening things without experience with a hone),  get this needle good and sharp and go down to your butchers and ask for some pig's trotters, they'll cost next to nothing, get a (razor (and I mean 'I can shave with this') sharp knife and make a few different kinds of wounds. There are plenty of videos online of what I've described on (dead) pigs trotters needing stitches. Look around online if you can and get a proper sterile suture kit (for emergency only) they aren't expense and save long waiting times/unnecessary hospital bills, learn to use an AED too, they're everywhere any knowing how to ignore the instructions printed on the inside (or give them a quick glance) could save a life, for CPR see if you can get one of the CPR masks that filter the air as well as give you gloves. They don't cost much, I got mine free with a medical course. Gloves would be good for doing finger sweeps to clear throat blockages (seriously, who wants to stick your hand down someone else's throat only to scoop out their lunch bare handed) the mask will stop you getting things like cold sores and the like and can be hooked up to an 02 tank after or during CPR.

<End rambling, start talking about shrooms and some photography.

First off, what on earth is a shotgun tub. Someone needs to link me to a tek? Second off I've been composing a (rather terrible) stop motion of the mushrooms growing but a bit of conversion to 1080p and then sony vegas should iron out any kinks. Long story short photography is one of the things that keeps me away from and oxymoronically brings me back to Heroin as I end up in town for the day. I mainly do street photography, taking photos of interesting looking people or events. I caught two people fighting once and as soon as they noticed I was snapping away at 10 feet they settled their differences and came tearing after me. I've got some other goodies that would be up on my flickr should you want a link (I'd link it here and now but I don't want to look like I'm view-whoring), the lens on the camera is the same focal length (magnification) as the human eye 25mm with a crop factor of 2 making 50mm eqiv if it were a 35mm film of 'full frame' lens, but this setup costs close to 1.2k, getting a full frame would be 1.2k for the body, maybe a cheap plasticky kit lens if you're lucky and £500+ for 'enthusiast' and 'prosumer' lenses, whereas pro lenses like the one I'm using for the time-lapse (panasonic-leica 25mm f.1.4, my prize piece of glass) but I digress. What on earth is a shotgun tub, I've searched and searched and can't find anything. Is it a big tub filled with mycelium and substrate that fires the mushrooms out at everyone once they're mature, like a shotgun blast?  :canthelpbutlaugh:
This grow kit has opened up a whole other world to me, to all the people who say growkits suck, they're right, but I bet a bunch of growers escalate from kits to monotubs, rice cakes or these mystical shotgun tubs I keep hearing about.


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    #21902668 - 07/05/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:rockon: those look amazing. I'm so happy you listened and gave em more fae. They look like they're loving it. When are you harvesting?


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21903132 - 07/05/15 10:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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:rockon: those look amazing. I'm so happy you listened and gave em more fae. They look like they're loving it. When are you harvesting?



As soon as I see the first veil or two split, or should I harvest before?
I'll probably leave one or two to come to full cap and take a spore print, though it's my knowledge that to spore print the cap has to be fully open, right?. I just don't want a box full of black shrooms.
I've continued the little time lapse but it'll look jerky when all is put together, I'll see if I can do a bit of editing on it but all time lapse programs offering this come at a steep price and I can't find them 'elsewhere'for free :uhoh:.
The main problem is that the white balance goes way off and makes parts of it look green (convinced that this is due to electronic shutter on IA 'intelligent auto' only going to 1s of exposure time (compared to 60s, or unlimited if you hold the button down (which would seriously cause the image to blur, which is why it's called bulb; back in the days of mechanically re-cocking your shutter on an SLR (remember in the original scream movie where she (news producer girl) just keeps taking pictures and moving her thumb on the lever to advance the film, this also re-cocks the shutter, once the shutter was cocked and completely manual instead of having a digital button you would just lock into place you'd have a little rubber bulb, pushing it in held the shutter's second curtain open after opening the first) so it bumps the ISO (sensor sensitivity) way up to about 25,000 (for a point of reference, I usually shoot at 125 ISO), this 'overcharging' of the sensor usually results in images coming out in a green colour, though I've been able to make it look bearable (it only happens in about 10% of each lapse that I'll stitch) together, but there will be periods where the colour will be washed out. But better a sharp image with grain than a blurry one where you can't see shit.
The battery on the camera is astounding (and so is the time lapse mode, I reckon I could leave it for 48 hours on one charge. My phone can barely manage that on standby, if I turned the screen on for every fraction of a second during daytime and for 60s+ at night (I've engaged the manual shutter for night shots, turns out if these are ready in a few days I'll only have fired the shutter a few hundred times (the shutter is usually the first thing to go on a well maintained mirrorless, the mirror on a DSLR) every 10 minutes the phone would be dead in five or six hours and all it's doing is turning on a light. When this takes a photo the image processor would be comparable to an ultrabook's processor as using it to make JEPG images (you can skip the jpeg part all together and shoot in RAW, giving you all the detail the sensor picked up, uncompressed and un-tampered with though since you're getting every last detail off the sensor it'll chuck out a 20mb+ file as opposed to a 6-7mb file; it's advantage would be the fact that it's much easier to fix mistakes losslessley in a program like lightroom, so areas in a JPEG that might be total darkness can be brightened up, or an overexposed image can be brought back down to normal lighting rather than the white sections you could never remove in a JPEG without using a composite in photoshop. Lightroom does JPEGs too, just not as well as raw. Personally unless I have time to switch from C2 (custom 2, or A (aperture priority; sadly this doesn't let you have a companion cube) with a few custom features for street shooting) to M (manual) where it might take up to a minute to compose an image so it looks 'picture perfect' As well as that I feel it gives me more discipline knowing I can't fix my photos after do I'll have to get creative (ie if the sky is whitewashing an image a bit too much I'll flip the screen out and hold it inches from the ground and take my shot using the buildings as cover. NB if you do this near anyone wearing a short skirt expect trouble. :spank:) but I digress since I know next to nothing about the magic of mycology how many days (ballpark, I'm not going to whine and go "well you said") do you reckon it'll take before it's time to harvest.

I know we've had our differences guys, but thanks for all the help, I couldn't have done it without you.:heart:


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21903155 - 07/05/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Are you in college? Geez you sure do type a lot.
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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #21903730 - 07/06/15 01:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Are you in college? Geez you sure do type a lot.
Very nice pins by the way. Make much progress from earlier?



Yep I'm in college and just couldn't sleep so I typed.
Yeah it's made progress, 4 days ago it was a bunch of minuscule knots. Then the next day one mushroom pin appeared (the biggest, I've named him king dick) Now it's day 8. Four days on from this arriving and me doing the whole sign for this on the shitty digital machines. I signed a mushroom. Delivery guy probably thought it was a cock.

Any ideas on when they'll be harvest ready? I won't hold you to the figure if they aren't ripe by then, I'm gauging ripe by 3 slightly broken veils. Unless there's a better way?


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21903734 - 07/06/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

when the veil under the caps break they are ready for harvest. some people even harvest them before the veils break, i know i do sometimes :wink:


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Captainpaps]
    #21905077 - 07/06/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ugh I'm furious all that sleep dep caught up to me. The time lapse ended just after every single one of the caps started 'popping' and stopped their "Oh hai, I'm a wavy dick made of mycelium" phase and have become mushrooms.
Should I harvest now or wait a few more hours for veils to start breaking.
As I've said before, I refuse to mention brand names but this is day 9. I'm impressed, the guy giving out the instructions said 5-20 days for the start of pinning, either these are fast growers or your instructions kicked these shrooms up a notch. I'll edit in an image in a moment.

I might give them 'til midnight or so then harvest. My biggest fear is them all dropping spores and dying off and with them being such fast growers who knows what I'm gonna end up with in the morning.

Here they are today:


If I'd left that lapse on for one more hour we'd have witnessed the mass 'popping' but I still have one more flush in them at least. I'm just so proud I made my own shrooms. This and this forum has really given me an interest in mycology.


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21905099 - 07/06/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Caps opening doesn't kill them. In fact the only thing you want to avoid is getting too many spores on the surface of the mycelium. If by chance they do open up.. :shrug: whatever. That's my attitude. I just do this:

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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21906157 - 07/06/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Caps opening doesn't kill them. In fact the only thing you want to avoid is getting too many spores on the surface of the mycelium. If by chance they do open up.. :shrug: whatever. That's my attitude. I just do this:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21748290



No worries bro. I went down to the chemist to get my daily dose of poison (subutex) met up with a friend and went to the off licence (liqour store in America) where I sort of know the guy from visiting there (ie he vouched for me when I walked in without ID because he'd previously seen my expired passport, told me I had a dated photo and wanted to see the name on a debit card to be sure, after that it was plain sailing. I'll usually ask him "what's sweet, what's dry; wtf is that yellow goo behind the counter? Turned out it was booze made from eggs" but I digress, by the time I got home 1 and a half hours max the biggest shroom had dropped it's veil; I cut the cap from the stipe using my razor sharp (yes I've shaved with it, I usually use a straight (cut-throat) razor anyways, no blades = cheap living) gutting/skinning knife and placed on foil for printing. After that all the mushrooms dropped their veils, I cut another one off and placed it beside the other on foil under a large glass. Despite these being huge they weren't counted in the wet weight of 330g (we rounded to the nearest gram, up or down)
Ho-lee-fuk-ing-sheet 330g from 9 days of growth after it's mycelical stage? No wonder I'm spore printing these. Shrooms are slow growers, MHRB tek is pretty quick. I can do both at once and personally I'd say the huge flush was thanks to you, we've had our differences but you gave great info and it paid off.

I've always been 'the chemist' or 'the medic' that people turn to. Now I can start to become the 'shroom guy' in a shroom-starved land too.

Lots of our public parks have wood chips. Personally I feel like inoculating them with (name escapes my mind as I've had a bottle of delicious brut) the wood chip loving mushrooms and making the whole area I live in an area for people to pick and eat from. I'll geotag each area and hand it out to those 'worthy' of picking the mushroom.

Personally, tomorrow I'll be going for a level 3.5-4 shroomery trip. I like heavy trips, the lighter the trip the more I tend to freak out and this is with acid, 2c-x, NBOH and other psychedelic compounds.

PS: I have this in a 'soak' bag of my own making that I'll pull out of the refrigerator about 5-6am and start all over again.

PPS:
Could I culture this cake on a grille for it's third spawn? so I could just have shrooms growing out of everywhere, unconstrained by plastic?

EDIT, no more PPPS and PICS have arrived:

A full growth of AA+, just shedding their veils. These are fast growers, going through each stage of growth like a fucking bulldozer; stopping for nobody or nothing.


King shroom with his cap cut off; this was done with a razor (no srsly it would shave a beard) sharp knife that I'd run under a torch lighter.


My drying setup (note that the curtains will be shut but the sun rises in the shroom's direction, should I change anything or is this okay? Should I add one layer of tissue on top?



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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21906618 - 07/06/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I hate to bump my thread while it's on page one, in fact I should be smashing my head off the keyboard right now, but is the drying setup good enough (pictured above), should I add tissue on top of the shrooms or just turn them every few hours? Should I dry on foil (a friend recommended this to me) or keep calm and carry on?


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    #21907408 - 07/06/15 09:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Kloo.w]
    #21907638 - 07/06/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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you eat it



Yes, eat 300g of wet shrooms.
Sounds like a great idea and not a recipe for model psychosis.

Does anyone have any serious answers?

Edit: I've had an idea on making my own dehydrator.

Get a round or square container that's fairly tall and can handle a small computer fan.
If the container tapers off (like a water bottle or emergency oil container, cut it open and keep the top)
Get paper or plastic plates and cut holes in them*
Make sure they're smaller than the container
Get nails or screws and hammer/screw them through the container
* make sure the plates fit before wrecking them.
Have 3 or more layers of plates for drying, cover up spaces beteen the plates with an airtight or fairly airtight substance.
Cut a hole in the side of the container at the bottom for the computer fan. Make sure it's rigged to extract air
If the container tapered off then cut slits in your top so it slides down forming an airtight (or near enough seal)
Put some sort of filter on the top of the container, since the side hole is pumping air out it shouldn't need filtered.
Attach fan to 9v battery and 2 1.5v cellss in parallel
If all goes well warm air will be pulled down, filtered to stop solids getting sucked in and it would dry your shrooms quicker than a normal desiccator or grille setup. Essentially Dry air in = moist air out.

I'll see if I can make a prototype tomorrow (today; insomnia), find an old fan or two and get it up and running. I have an old emergency oil barrel that I can rinse with petrol then water until you can't smell oil anymore. Only issue is that it's rectangular so some sort of stuffing shall have to be rigged to stop the air taking the path of least resistance.


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21907933 - 07/07/15 12:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

that dude is just a puppet acct trying to get to 50 posts.. check his other posts its just BS..

you should have your shrooms on some rack that air can blow through and a fan pointing on them
if you dont have a dehydrator..


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    #21907954 - 07/07/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

IMO a real dehydrator is an extremely worthwhile investment.  You can screw around with various other contraptions, fanning, etc.

IME they aren't as effective and are slower.  Dehydrator gets it done easily and quickly.  Just buy one used off ebay, they're really not very expensive and will save you a lot of hassle in the long run rather than messing with some shoddy contraption until you give up and buy one anyway.  For this batch, you could get a dehydrator fast and fridge them till then, fan dry, then maybe finish off with a dehydrator if you aren't satisfied, or try one of the oven drying methods.

I couldn't really speak to potency loss, but the general consensus seems to be faster>cooler.  I wouldn't worry about a non-adjustable dehydrator unless you get into growing hardcore, and maybe not even then.

Looks like your grow went off nicely.  Gratz.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


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    #21908113 - 07/07/15 02:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)



I dry mine on this box-fan; Was considering getting a 2nd milk crate to place it on so it gets better air flow. You can just elevate the one side if you like, but if they get too light after drying they'll just fly off in the air current.


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21908194 - 07/07/15 03:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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IMO a real dehydrator is an extremely worthwhile investment.  You can screw around with various other contraptions, fanning, etc.

IME they aren't as effective and are slower.  Dehydrator gets it done easily and quickly.  Just buy one used off ebay, they're really not very expensive and will save you a lot of hassle in the long run rather than messing with some shoddy contraption until you give up and buy one anyway.  For this batch, you could get a dehydrator fast and fridge them till then, fan dry, then maybe finish off with a dehydrator if you aren't satisfied, or try one of the oven drying methods.

I couldn't really speak to potency loss, but the general consensus seems to be faster>cooler.  I wouldn't worry about a non-adjustable dehydrator unless you get into growing hardcore, and maybe not even then.

Looks like your grow went off nicely.  Gratz.



As I've said, it's a stealth grow, there's no way I could hide 300+g of shrooms in the fridge.
I'll probably get a fan/grille setup, though we don't have a proper fan, just the fan from a mini evaporative cooler, I guess I could run it without the whole evaporative set-up in it and use oven grilles and pizza trays to dry them. Since it's a small fan and I've moved things to my room once the mother gets home (before someone calls me out as a kid I'm 22 and pay half the rent). Guess it's time to diapappear all the cooling racks in the house and pizza tray (I'll set it up on blocks then jury rig this fan to blow some air onto them.)

EDIT: Even with the small fan and a few visual obscurants it's still really visible once you get a few paces into the room. Naturally I can't have the fan (which I'm leaving to buy now) on 24/7 and I'm getting a lock for my bedroom door if it isn't insanely priced at like £25 for a 1 tumbler lock.
Edit, if not I'll just leave a "private, leave cleaned clothes or anything else at base of door please" out" sign on my door and drop in my rent today. If she ignores the sign it's her own fucking fault for finding out.


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21908210 - 07/07/15 03:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Opaque container or takeout container might do the trick.  Also if you have a dehydrator, you can literally set it up in your room when you go to sleep, wake up, take out your dried mushrooms, and put it away with nobody ever knowing.

Anyway, good luck getting them cracker dry with a fan.  I never had any.  Maybe you can just finish them off in the oven for 10 or 20 minutes.  IDK.


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    #21908314 - 07/07/15 05:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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IMO a real dehydrator is an extremely worthwhile investment.  You can screw around with various other contraptions, fanning, etc.

IME they aren't as effective and are slower.  Dehydrator gets it done easily and quickly.  Just buy one used off ebay, they're really not very expensive and will save you a lot of hassle in the long run rather than messing with some shoddy contraption until you give up and buy one anyway.  For this batch, you could get a dehydrator fast and fridge them till then, fan dry, then maybe finish off with a dehydrator if you aren't satisfied, or try one of the oven drying methods.

I couldn't really speak to potency loss, but the general consensus seems to be faster>cooler.  I wouldn't worry about a non-adjustable dehydrator unless you get into growing hardcore, and maybe not even then.

Looks like your grow went off nicely.  Gratz.



As I've said, it's a stealth grow, there's no way I could hide 300+g of shrooms in the fridge.
I'll probably get a fan/grille setup, though we don't have a proper fan, just the fan from a mini evaporative cooler, I guess I could run it without the whole evaporative set-up in it and use oven grilles and pizza trays to dry them. Since it's a small fan and I've moved things to my room once the mother gets home (before someone calls me out as a kid I'm 22 and pay half the rent). Guess it's time to diapappear all the cooling racks in the house and pizza tray (I'll set it up on blocks then jury rig this fan to blow some air onto them.)

EDIT: Even with the small fan and a few visual obscurants it's still really visible once you get a few paces into the room. Naturally I can't have the fan (which I'm leaving to buy now) on 24/7 and I'm getting a lock for my bedroom door if it isn't insanely priced at like £25 for a 1 tumbler lock.
Edit, if not I'll just leave a "private, leave cleaned clothes or anything else at base of door please" out" sign on my door and drop in my rent today. If she ignores the sign it's her own fucking fault for finding out.




Would be pretty funny if mom lost her house because you wanted to get high hey?

Dry them in the oven with the door open while she's not home.


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: newrook]
    #21908370 - 07/07/15 05:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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IMO a real dehydrator is an extremely worthwhile investment.  You can screw around with various other contraptions, fanning, etc.

IME they aren't as effective and are slower.  Dehydrator gets it done easily and quickly.  Just buy one used off ebay, they're really not very expensive and will save you a lot of hassle in the long run rather than messing with some shoddy contraption until you give up and buy one anyway.  For this batch, you could get a dehydrator fast and fridge them till then, fan dry, then maybe finish off with a dehydrator if you aren't satisfied, or try one of the oven drying methods.

I couldn't really speak to potency loss, but the general consensus seems to be faster>cooler.  I wouldn't worry about a non-adjustable dehydrator unless you get into growing hardcore, and maybe not even then.

Looks like your grow went off nicely.  Gratz.



As I've said, it's a stealth grow, there's no way I could hide 300+g of shrooms in the fridge.
I'll probably get a fan/grille setup, though we don't have a proper fan, just the fan from a mini evaporative cooler, I guess I could run it without the whole evaporative set-up in it and use oven grilles and pizza trays to dry them. Since it's a small fan and I've moved things to my room once the mother gets home (before someone calls me out as a kid I'm 22 and pay half the rent). Guess it's time to diapappear all the cooling racks in the house and pizza tray (I'll set it up on blocks then jury rig this fan to blow some air onto them.)

EDIT: Even with the small fan and a few visual obscurants it's still really visible once you get a few paces into the room. Naturally I can't have the fan (which I'm leaving to buy now) on 24/7 and I'm getting a lock for my bedroom door if it isn't insanely priced at like £25 for a 1 tumbler lock.
Edit, if not I'll just leave a "private, leave cleaned clothes or anything else at base of door please" out" sign on my door and drop in my rent today. If she ignores the sign it's her own fucking fault for finding out.




Would be pretty funny if mom lost her house because you wanted to get high hey?

Dry them in the oven with the door open while she's not home.



Would that not ruin the mushrooms?
And I've a 'Private, keep out sign" (politer naturally) as well as having transferred my half month's rent to her, so she wouldn't lose the house; if anything since everything is done in my own 'personal space' the landlord could kick me out, but since I made it clear that it was a no entry zone and kept up with payments, he would kick me out instead. I've been looking to move anyway.
Since I'm keeping up with payments she probably won't look behind door number one unless she hears the humming of the fans. When she gets home I'm just gonna switch them off; wait for her to fall asleep then turn them on their lowest setting with a expanded polyethylene buffer off the floor on the fans. Shouldn't wake her.

I will have to stealth it up a bit more and stuff but now is good enough. I've a ball of lint in against the door and the frame that'll drop if anyone but me enters. If I get shouted at I'll just say I'm 22, it's not th mushroom's fault for having drugs in it and to leave me and the shrooms the fuck alone.


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21908388 - 07/07/15 05:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If in doubt, preserve the shrooms in booze with a high alcohol content; soak the chopped shrooms for several days then strain out the lees, then pour the alcohol into a shallow pan and evaporate by air circulation; keep the distillate away from heat and light.

The remaining h20 is the problem with my solution; If you started with @300 grams wet shrroms then we know the result has to be divided ten ways an to rid the remaining moisture I would try depositing the resulting distillate on ten sheets of rice-paper in shallow cheap disposable aluminum pans and dry them in front of a fan.

The only problem left is the fat content that can go rancid, so the sheaf of ricepaper has to be refridgerated imo.

The paper can then be colored using food dye to create huge tabs.


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #21908681 - 07/07/15 08:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yikes.... Sneaking into pubs, growing mushrooms behind your moms back in the place she presumably found for the two of you to live in, "I've always been 'the chemist' or 'the medic' that people turn to. Now I can start to become the 'shroom guy' in a shroom-starved land too." :facepalm3:

"When she gets home I'm just gonna switch them off; wait for her to fall asleep then turn them on their lowest setting with a expanded polyethylene buffer off the floor on the fans. Shouldn't wake her"

" If she ignores the sign it's her own fucking fault for finding out."

"he MIGHT kick me out instead. I've been looking to move anyway."

Honestly, you sound really irresponsible. Bare minimum I'm going to say here is you should be capable of taking care of yourself (and I don't mean paying "half" of whatever you consider rent), before you start growing illegal mushrooms and putting family members at risk (but you made it clear that you don't care).

If your mom (the women who brought you into the world remember?) would have a problem with what you're doing you should at the very least show her a bit of respect in that regard.

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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: newrook]
    #21908694 - 07/07/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I use an Alton Brpwn dehydrator- box fan, a couple AC filters, and bungee cords: voila! You can also add a heat lamp behind the fan to speed the process up


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: newrook]
    #21913868 - 07/08/15 08:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Yikes.... Sneaking into pubs, growing mushrooms behind your moms back in the place she presumably found for the two of you to live in, "I've always been 'the chemist' or 'the medic' that people turn to. Now I can start to become the 'shroom guy' in a shroom-starved land too." :facepalm3:

"When she gets home I'm just gonna switch them off; wait for her to fall asleep then turn them on their lowest setting with a expanded polyethylene buffer off the floor on the fans. Shouldn't wake her"

" If she ignores the sign it's her own fucking fault for finding out."

"he MIGHT kick me out instead. I've been looking to move anyway."

Honestly, you sound really irresponsible. Bare minimum I'm going to say here is you should be capable of taking care of yourself (and I don't mean paying "half" of whatever you consider rent), before you start growing illegal mushrooms and putting family members at risk (but you made it clear that you don't care).

If your mom (the women who brought you into the world remember?) would have a problem with what you're doing you should at the very least show her a bit of respect in that regard.

You rack diciprine




Yes, because you know all the intricacies of my life. Are you a shroomery appointed psychologist or someone just trying to irritate me.
Newsflash; when she was younger she was big into shrooms, MDMA, acid, etc.
So please take your amateur psychology somewhere where it's wanted.


As for the rest of the thread those mushrooms are awesome I ate 20g wet (ugh I ate the biggest stem from the biggest shroom and it was really meaty, had pictured them to be more easily chewable though this was like biting into med-rare steak.
I had an amazing trip apart from the bit where a friend put me and another friend on a 3 mile death march just so he could get a bag of weed. All I wanted to do was lie down and enjoy life. Highly potent visuals (though after eating the 20g and giving it only 30m (I'm used to phenethylamines, they usually kick in a bit quicker) I got about 10 tiny little aborts (less weight than 1 wet shroom) and ate those.
As for depth and scope of the trip, was amazing. Felt like acid, MDMA and NBOH all rolled into one, whoever called ecstasy the love drug was clearly not on shrooms when he said it.
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    #21916388 - 07/08/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hey guys. I've a few questions for you in the OP regarding the second flush of my growbox. Any help would be mush appreaciated


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    #21916493 - 07/08/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm embarrassed that I wasted 5 minutes of my life reading the first couple of posts in this thread.
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Re: Second flush, grow box feels lighter than it should. Prev: How to best dry my shrooms? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21917467 - 07/08/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I honestly am not sure what you are talking about with regards to the second flush, or what you did.  You should be more concise.

Here's a few guesses:

If you are trying to make Liquid Inoculant (mycellium in water,) you would have needed to do it before your substrate was exposed to open air.  If you are talking about making liquid culture (mycellium growing in nutritious liquid) out of your open-air spore print, that probably wouldn't be a great idea.  If you want to try to make an LC, the syringe biopsy clone method sounds like the best chance for success without an airbox.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5874305/an/0/page/0
You can use other LC solutions, other syringe sterilization methods, etc.  Also I would be tempted to tear off the very bottom of the stipe, plunge from the bottom of the mushroom straight up into the clean innards, then tear the rest of the stipe in half to release the needle.

It sounds like you are asking if it's okay that you dunked the substrate, and why it might be lighter?  Dunking before first flush typically wouldn't be harmful but also isn't necessary.  If it's done, it's usually before the 2nd or third flush.  When it's needed depends on when the water content is exhausted.  I just poke the sub to test for moisture content, think about how much flushed out, and dunk accordingly.

lighter: substrates shrink and expend water and nutrients to grow mushrooms, live, and colonize.  The water can be replaced somewhat by dunking.  They really do strink a lot, I have some that started out the size of a chocolate cake and are now the thickness of brownies.

The point of dunking is rehydrating the substrate.  Extreme water pressure or submersion is not necessary.  Since mushies are mostly water, a typical substrate might run out of water before running out of nutrients.

The purpose of misting is to keep the surface of the sub from drying out, and allow for surface evaporation.

A typical flush curve for most substrates would be 2:1:1, so if you play your cards right, expect that double your first flush result is a possible result.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
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Re: Second flush, grow box feels lighter than it should. Prev: How to best dry my shrooms? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21917838 - 07/09/15 02:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You seem to have misunderstood me a little, making liquid mycelium and my own substrate is a goal in the (hopefully not too distant) future.
What I'm talking about is the lazyman growbox (the 100% colonized one).
When I dunked/soaked that the instructions were to put it in a sealed soak bag (I didn't know it would swell up so I used a small bag that burst and leaked on me a little, I had it filled just below the brim of the box with the lid on, the fridge isn't one of those new fangled vibro-fridges and there were no earthquakes so I'm at a loss here as to how the water got out.:confused:
Anyway it came out there was still some water in the box so I poured that as it had been given a full 12h soak feeling significantly lighter than it originally felt by about 1-2 thirds, naturally when it came out last it had about 300g of mushrooms sitting on it which must have used at least some of the moist air and 'artificial rain' I gave them.
After now about 40h I can see new mycelium growing and some of the very small pins and aborts I missed (about 1mm - 3mm in size) dying off and going blackish, I took a photo today and with soap cleaned hands removed the largest just in case of infection (though I gave it a good smell, doesn't smell of bacteria); I'm hoping the mycelium will use the dead mycelium for food. There is new mycelium growing though I'm worried that the grow might stall around the small-medium pin stage due to a lack of hydration.
Could this happen? Is there any sort of preventative measures I can take? (such as using a sterile 10 or 20ml syringe to 'inoculate' the substrate with water or should I just keep calm and give it a few more days? Though this is a fast grower from mycelium to knots in 4 days, pins in 6, bigger pins come 8 and harvest day come day 9; evening, which is why I want to get this dealt with (if it needs dealt with) quickly.

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Re: Second flush, grow box feels lighter than it should. Prev: How to best dry my shrooms? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21917874 - 07/09/15 02:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It should be fine.  You don't need any insane water pressure to execute a successful dunk.  Since it's a small sub, the surface area to volume ratio is pretty high, and it should have hydrated quickly.  Subs do lose a lot of volume.  Regardless, it is what it is.  Magic pixies didn't steal any mass, and it likely hydrated to near its current maximum capacity.

Remove those aborts.  Old decaying mushroom tissue is great for contams.  Try to pluck the whole abord out, as sometimes they're slightly submerged in he substrate.  As for still viable pins being dunked, I'm honestly not sure what happens to them.  Just observe.  They're either grow or stagnate.  It should be fairly obvious which in a few days.  Remove if they don't do anything.  Otherwise, just let it happen baby.  :male:

Most of your misting either evaporated immediately, or temporarily hydrated the pinning surface before it evaporated again.  Likely little if any of that water was used in your mushrooms.  Most of that would have come from the substrate directly.


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Re: Second flush, grow box feels lighter than it should. Prev: How to best dry my shrooms? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21918038 - 07/09/15 04:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

nice grow dude (:

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Re: Second flush, grow box feels lighter than it should. Prev: How to best dry my shrooms? [Re: psilo cybe]
    #21918139 - 07/09/15 05:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I only made one print and I'll be using that one personally, however once my second flush comes (fingers crossed) I'll send you a print of the biggest cap I get so long as you don't live in Aus or somewhere where customs will stop it and cultivate their own mushrooms :P

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You don't need any insane water pressure to execute a successful dunk.



I know, again a small misunderstanding of what I'm trying to say. At the factory where these are cultivated before being shipped out I bet they use some sort pressure assembly to completely saturate the substrate as the substrate goes in before the spores therefore allowing extreme methods to be used on the substrate that shouldn't be used after inoculation. Extremely high pressure when cultivated would probably harm, if not outright kill the mycelium. Besides other than a power/pressure hose (substrate and mycelium everywhere  :facepalm3:) I wouldn't be equipped to put substrate under pressure during a dunk.

That said; who wouldn't want to own a mushroom factory. Hopefully with my degree in chemistry (biochemistry really with a focus on pharmaceutical manufacture and effect) I could one day have a factory of my own producing substances that I hope are made legal once the dinosaurs in politics die off and the new; better educated generation move in and if that doesn't happen Guy Fawkes had an excellent plan, he just screwed up on the execution :P One can dream. :pipesmoke:

Edit, as for removing the old dunked aborts, I removed them with a makeshift surgeon's mask on; no gloves; (unless you're getting them sterile from a hospital out of a packet) the gloves surgeons use, not nurses; the ones the nurses get for giving you shots or taking blood; or the doctors are simply aeseptic gloves, one notch down from sterile, the ones in theatre are individually wrapped and vacuum sealed, you don't want your patient dying of MRSA just because someone put their hands on the gloves before thinking "shit, I've not scrubbed in already, I simply scrubbed well with an antibacterial soap and went after any aborts I might have missed with a magnifying glass and needle nose tweezers while shining a 72 LED work light on the whole thing. Anything that was black on top went away, anything white stayed.


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    #21918179 - 07/09/15 06:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So what arrived at your home was a colonized substrate correct?

Most likely it is a bulk substrate (probably coir or straw) inoculated with grain spawn.  Bulk substrates don't like to colonize when they are wet.  Mycellium likes fluffy, so afaik the general goal is to get the sub as wet as possible while still having it be fluffy and not prone to contamination due to sopping wet areas.  FYI said water capacity for coir is about 2:5 volumetrically, water to hydrated substrate.

Anyway, once the bulk substrate (water capacity) is colonized by the grain spawn (nutrient capacity + inoculation points,) they most likely just ship it to you, as it should still have plenty of water for the first flush and beyond, depending on the spawn ratio.

The reason your knotting and pinning occurred so quickly was probably that this brick had been consolidating for quite some time and was chomping at the bit to get fruiting as soon as it was exposed to pinning triggers.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
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Re: Second flush, grow box feels lighter than it should. Prev: How to best dry my shrooms? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21926489 - 07/10/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

True.
This one mustn't have been properly dunked as the mycelium seems to be disappearing at the sides of the box (not on top though) and there are two small pins forming at the side of the tube while everything else almost looks like it's at it's hyphal knotting stage.
However the bottom of the tub looks healthier than ever.
If after another few days or so the two pins abort or die off I'm gonna dunk it again and flip it out directly into the bag so it can colonise everywhere, or into another container (Tupperware, we have loads of it and it seals well) with the bottom which looks more alive than the top facing up.

I can do that right, so long as I'm gentle, hygienic and careful? if it starts to spawn higher than the container closes I'll weigh the growbag down on top of it after sterilising it. I want to get at least two decent grows out of this.

<Start rant>
It doesn't help that my 'friend' pretty much stole 60g of mushrooms from me (I'd eaten loads and was experiencing ego death and stuff so all he said was (he had promised he wouldn't ask for anything when he called; 30 mins in "Do you have any flubromazolam mate??"; essentially he hasn't changed one bit since he hung around town hall in 2009/2010, has a stuid beard that parts in the middle and covers his unwashed hair with caps making it look like he's a fucking bearded condom); while I was laying out on my bed not really understanding that he had promised he wouldn't ask for anything (I promised him some so long as he got down before 4pm. I get a text "Oh I don't feel well, flu etc" magically at 5pm his flu is cured and he calls round for '20 minutes' which ended up being until 9pm, he even marched me 4-5 miles (I have a knee with torn cruciates (as well as other minor ligaments) pain has been getting worse and worse, shall be seeing doctor on the 24th) just so he could buy a bag of weed and then he marched us the rest of the 4mi so he could smoke it in a field in the middle of nowhere.
Long and short of it was I called him up and said where are 60g of my mushrooms (6g dry, had a 32g harvest or thereabouts so it was significant enough as mushrooms are rare here and thus very expensive not that I will be selling any of mine, personal use only) and he was extremely rude down the phone, outright denied it and then tried to phone me today then texted me saying he would meet up and do something that isn't allowed for them. I intend to get him to come down to my house, sit him down in the living room and tell him that he's done this at least once before (grabbed up diclazepam and tried to cover his tracks but since I use food flavour for the solvent (98% P-glycol) he used the wrong one and I new instantly. I sent him a text saying he could fix things if he admitted it (which he eventually did with lots of excuses of how it wasn't his fault); having him in the living room is odd instead of going upstairs to play vidya games, tell him that he can repair things somehow (Personally since the values match up to a growbox and I'm just not ready to graduate yet) so a gift of one of those might be nice (if these are against forum rules notify me at once, but if you're allowed to give away shrooms, giving away a grow kit should be okay to rectify his massive error) but that he's no longer allowed on the premises. If he wants to chill I can chill at his place but his light fingers aren't allowed in my place any more. As I've said he's a manchild and when something goes wrong mummy and daddy help him (he even phones him for lifts (rides/drives US guys) home at 11pm when it's a 10 minute walk with good legs like his, 15 with my gimpy leg.
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So I really want to graduate from grow kit academy
I have a friend who rents a house (from her friend) with 4 floors and I might see if I can get the master room on the top floor rented and turn it into one big place for automated mycelial study (I've the money to get everything set up such as ultrasonic misters, timers, computer fans, HEPA filters and such). I'll discuss how rent can be paid (favours or hard cash; about £40-60 a month), set up a lock on the door to which I only have the key I I might hide one really well and let the home-owner know where it is ICE such as fire or water leakage but since the room would be locked up tight it gives her plausible deniability "He just stayed here when his mother was being a dick, I know nothing about any mushrooms, he usually came in when I was out and he locks the door and keeps the only key. I thought he was just a bit over paranoid about his stuff getting damaged/moved around if I invited people over" so if the grow did get busted then she would be in the clear, legally anyway. I know her through her boyfriend and he used to grow plants so he would be in the house at times and could check on my kit and notify me if I need to get a taxi over and refill things, fix wiring, turn on a heat-mat to get it to optimal temperature or let me know that my grow has started certain life stages.
Obviously this would be up to both the X (the homeowner) and Y (the boyfriend) but I'll meet up with one or both of them tomorrow and see if they're open to it.


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Re: Second flush, grow box feels lighter than it should. Prev: How to best dry my shrooms? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21927269 - 07/11/15 03:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Try to be more concise.  Excessive interjections make it hard to follow what you're saying, and you aren't precise enough about what you do say.

I think what you said was that you substrate is shrinking?  This is normal.  Now that I think about it, I'm not sure exactly why it occurs to such a great degree.  The raw materials are being consumed and not replaced, and perhaps the water capacity is dropping as well.

You have already dunked it (with a leak) after the first flush, and you see knotting on top of the brick along with two sidepins?  Then just leave it, it's doing exactly what it's supposed to.

Even if it didn't quite hit full hydration, the end result would probably just be a smaller 2nd and larger 3rd flush after the next dunk.

All you've done is fruited a colonized substrate.  Might wanna try doing sterile work before you commit to building a secret lab.  If you really have to do too much tiptoeing at home to accomplish anything, I understand.  I just wouldn't go investing in crazy equipment other than a PC + quart plastic twisttops + mini monotubs + still air box.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


No, this does not look right...


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Re: Second flush, grow box feels lighter than it should. Prev: How to best dry my shrooms? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21928461 - 07/11/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

True.
This one mustn't have been properly dunked as the mycelium seems to be disappearing at the sides of the box (not on top though) and there are two small pins forming at the side of the tube while everything else almost looks like it's at it's hyphal knotting stage.
However the bottom of the tub looks healthier than ever.
If after another few days or so the two pins abort or die off I'm gonna dunk it again and flip it out directly into the bag so it can colonise everywhere, or into another container (Tupperware, we have loads of it and it seals well) with the bottom which looks more alive than the top facing up.

I can do that right, so long as I'm gentle, hygienic and careful? if it starts to spawn higher than the container closes I'll weigh the growbag down on top of it after sterilising it. I want to get at least two decent grows out of this.

<Start rant>
It doesn't help that my 'friend' pretty much stole 60g of mushrooms from me (I'd eaten loads and was experiencing ego death and stuff so all he said was (he had promised he wouldn't ask for anything when he called; 30 mins in "Do you have any flubromazolam mate??"; essentially he hasn't changed one bit since he hung around town hall in 2009/2010, has a stuid beard that parts in the middle and covers his unwashed hair with caps making it look like he's a fucking bearded condom); while I was laying out on my bed not really understanding that he had promised he wouldn't ask for anything (I promised him some so long as he got down before 4pm. I get a text "Oh I don't feel well, flu etc" magically at 5pm his flu is cured and he calls round for '20 minutes' which e
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Machiavelliavore said:
Try to be more concise.  Excessive interjections make it hard to follow what you're saying, and you aren't precise enough about what you do say.

I think what you said was that you substrate is shrinking?  This is normal.  Now that I think about it, I'm not sure exactly why it occurs to such a great degree.  The raw materials are being consumed and not replaced, and perhaps the water capacity is dropping as well.

You have already dunked it (with a leak) after the first flush, and you see knotting on top of the brick along with two sidepins?  Then just leave it, it's doing exactly what it's supposed to.

Even if it didn't quite hit full hydration, the end result would probably just be a smaller 2nd and larger 3rd flush after the next dunk.

All you've done is fruited a colonized substrate.  Might wanna try doing sterile work before you commit to building a secret lab.  If you really have to do too much tiptoeing at home to accomplish anything, I understand.  I just wouldn't go investing in crazy equipment other than a PC + quart plastic twisttops + mini monotubs + still air box.



I don't have to do that much tiptoeing, I usually get a few days to myself and stuff, thing is; there is a big but not too big tupperware container that would make a great mono-tub. Temperature is really the only issue. The spare room is cramped and warm and good for hiding small things (like grow boxes) but I don't think I could get a mono tub grow going. One thing I've been thinking of doing is tidying up the attic and moving an inoculated mono-tub up there, but there's literally 30 years of shit up there so hygiene would be an issue, I'd probably have to build my own with it's own fans and HEPA filters, power for a heat mat, light and timer circuits aren't a problem, essentially I could build a self contained monotub; buy an ultrasonic mister, hot glue everything together, except the top of course, which would be air tight.
Then since the retard builders my cheap ass landlord bought in wrecked the attic wiring but were kind enough to put in a switch for a ceiling fan which is never used and the switch is almost out of reach (and therefore out of sight) all I would have to do is pull the wires from the fan, solder more cable (probably a cable leading to a 6 plug splitter; just missing it's own plug as that will be what I'll solder on) then just plug in all the electrical equipment (Fan for HEPA filter FEA), timer, leat mat/s and electronic mister then I'd just have to go up and check every day or so and make sure everything is working in order.
As for working with mains electrical equipment, I'll make sure the breaker on the fan and possibly the main breaker for the whole house is cut off; I've done it plenty of times before, even had to swap out circuit breakers when someone plugged in a smoke machine which had had it's cable fire-damaged and thus stripped bare. Apparently it made smoke, but not the right kind; they even got a fireworks show before the breaker blew up rather than switching the machine off. I can remember my father wiring up the attic and getting me to help when I was like 5 and since he died when I was 6 I've been the house's plumber, electrician, plasterer and technology person. So hopefully this 'experience' should get a semi automated grow tub (or possibly separate tubs separated about 2.5cm and arranged in a 'graph paper' pattern then held together with small spots of that godawful expanding yellow foam that gets everywhere (you know, this type of stuff) so if one tub gets contaminated the others are much less likely to.

On the <rant> front I managed to phone corner the person(Phone number was blocked so I dialed from an anonymous # (141 prefix) and he picked up); he tried to tell me he was south of the border. What he didn't know was I had his home phone number, so I gave it a few minutes and rang that. Low and behold, he wasn't hundreds of miles away, he was a 10 minute walk. He finally capitulated and said he'd pay me, then he turns up (daddy waiting outside in the car) with poorly dried black/gray shrooms that he'd tied in knots and shit. They definitely are infested with bacteria because his life is falling apart around him so much that he can't even put mushrooms on tissue in a warm spot and check twice daily, he must have dumped them on cotton wool and left them out in the sun for half a day and let them take on damp in the night. Oh well, I should have some real friends calling up tomorrow and we can all trip together on free handouts rather than light fingered thieves helping themselves.
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Also once again thanks for being so friendly and helpful.


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