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Second flush, grow box feels lighter than it should. Prev: How to best dry my shrooms?
    #21899679 - 07/05/15 04:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Second post is a few lines below this one, currently I've got my mushrooms on a grille with 2 fans on them, they're about 80% dry but not cracker dry. I found a cap that was. It weighed like 3g (maybe it's not fully dried yet though it's shrivelled and hard to the touch, like I could snap it in half. The stipe I ate yesterday was like biting into medium rare steak, these are meaty shrooms.
So onto the topic at hand. When I got my lazyman growbox in the mail (don't worry, I took a print of two caps and intend to do my own grow. Maybe make some liquid mycelium then use it for inoculations for faster growth) it felt rather heavy, almost like it was filled with very wet dirt. Once I was done harvesting I the soak bag out of the fridge (I just knotted an airtight bag) and noticed it had leaked into the bag and ruptured the bag in a few places, upon looking at the side of the container it was about half full with water (it would be impossible to ship with water as my box would be soaked by the time it got here, naturally) but the full 12 hours were up so I poured the excess water off and the box felt rather light, about 1/3 to 1/2 as light as it did when I got it. The only thing I can think of is that since substrate is pre soaked they pressure soaked the substrate before inoculation, which you can't do with live mycelium without getting dead mycelium.
I've been keeping the bag very humid and been looking around for some tape to plug the gaping holes as the mycelium is growing back and I don't want it to get ill. Couldn't find tape so settled for pinching the sides and using blu-tack. I've also been giving the mycelium about 3-5 shots of 'rain' from my sprayer at a range of about 1-1.5m to dampen the substrate. The mycelium does seem to be growing and as soon as I noticed it was lighter I mailed the vendor and they said that re-soaking it would probably kill the kit and that the second flush is usually smaller than the first (330g wet, very potent shrooms)
All I'm really asking is the box going to be okay or have I killed it/stunted it badly? Followed the instructions to the letter, the only thing I did wrong was use too small of a soak bag.
It's been about 36h since I took it out and it seems healthy, there looks like there's new growth on top so should I be all good and just give the shrooms their dose of light rain every day to moisten things up, but not soak them?
Cheers, you guys have been really helpful so far; I hope you can help with this.
-Dia





Hi guys. Second post here and I'm starting to have massive growth in my shrooms, I've had to open the top of my grow bag (it was a grow kit though I'll not mention any brand names, however it involved paper clips and a bag, which I made extra FEA holes in, as instructed by you in a previous thread).
Should I just make a small monotub out of old tuppaware that's been steeped in boiling water, cut a few holes and drop it in there?
When 'clipped down' some pins touch the sides of the bag, I assume this will stunt their growth, or at least cause bruising and loss of potency?

So should I move for a transfer out of the chokebag and into a small tuppaware tub that I'll cut some holes in?
As of right now I have the bag fully open with a sheet of paper covering the gaping hole, mostly. Though I would assume this isn't the best.

As of last thread depending on how I'll need to set this up  I'll run a time-lapse.

Pics of today's growth inbound:






The final image is off site as I was having problems uploading at the start. But that box fits in the bag with about 1cm each side, tapering off to 0cm and into the minus numbers when clipped down.

Here is the off-site link


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21899731 - 07/05/15 05:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Beautiful pinset!!!!

You could fruit them open air...
Just mist more to keep it from drying out.

you can build a terrarium w/ perlite..

Or, you could use a gallon ziplock bag as a "dome"
I would cut a 1.5" circle into each side of the ziplock though and stuff lightly with polyfil.


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21899748 - 07/05/15 05:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They may be fine as they are.  Hitting the plastic bag probably won't do much.  The constant moisture would be bad long term, but they'll probably be mature within a day or two.  Also it might we worth lighting them from a side angle.  Sometimes they seem to grow sideways toward the light.

Probably better going with a shotgun/mono hybrid design at this small size if you must change container.

I have one made out of a 3qt tub shaped tupperware container that works well.  small holes half inch above sub level spaced two inches apart.  Soldering irons work well for burning holes in some thinner plastic containers (pp5 for one.)  Mist 1-2x daily.  Good for future minigrows with half quart of spawn and 2/3 qt coir or something.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #21899750 - 07/05/15 05:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Beautiful pinset!!!!

You could fruit them open air...
Just mist more to keep it from drying out.

you can build a terrarium w/ perlite..

Or, you could use a gallon ziplock bag as a "dome"
I would cut a 1.5" circle into each side of the ziplock though and stuff lightly with polyfil.



I know, right. This is all from a 'lazyman' grow kit too but I listened to you guys, cut + shaped holes which can be dialled up or down as the plastic is semi-rigid, or well plastic to the touch. The A4 paper arrangment seems to be working well (I've set two sheets crossing over eachother to cover the gaping hole in the top)
Until the pins grow too big for that arrangement, or if A4 paper can be known to carry nasties (been sitting there a year in the bags used for printer refills, open. Took some sheets from the middle) I'll run down to the hardware store/warehouse and see if I can't pick anything up from there.
Edit. See the mushrooms with black caps? They aren't infected with anything are they or are they 'aborts', the kit is AA+ (albino A+ and is a fast grower. Those are pictures of it 8 days after it arriving in the mail)


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21899765 - 07/05/15 05:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They arent infected, just aborted.
Still good to eat.


&& again well done on tht pinset! :thumbup:
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They may be fine as they are.  Hitting the plastic bag probably won't do much.  The constant moisture would be bad long term, but they'll probably be mature within a day or two.  Also it might we worth lighting them from a side angle.  Sometimes they seem to grow sideways toward the light.

Probably better going with a shotgun/mono hybrid design at this small size if you must change container.

I have one made out of a 3qt tub shaped tupperware container that works well.  small holes half inch above sub level spaced two inches apart.  Soldering irons work well for burning holes in some thinner plastic containers (pp5 for one.)  Mist 1-2x daily.  Good for future minigrows with half quart of spawn and 2/3 qt coir or something.




:lolwut:
The caps touching the plastic wont cause any ill effect..


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Fantastic Mr. Fox]
    #21899780 - 07/05/15 05:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If there is a lot of condensation on the plastic, I would personally prefer not to have them sit touching it for days getting supersaturated and funky, however, in the time it will take for his grow to complete I think it's irrelevant and it will be fine.

Mushrooms definitely aren't afraid to push against stuff.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21899807 - 07/05/15 06:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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If there is a lot of condensation on the plastic, I would personally prefer not to have them sit touching it for days getting supersaturated and funky, however, in the time it will take for his grow to complete I think it's irrelevant and it will be fine.

Mushrooms definitely aren't afraid to push against stuff.




Fair enough. How long do you reckon it'll take to grow since it's only been 8 days from 100% mycelium to knots (4 days) then pins (6 days) then this (8 days). Ballpark figure. I won't hold you to it. :grin:

Edit, the two A4 sheets of paper I was balancing on top fell inside the grow bag missing the shrooms by millimetres, one or two soggy shrooms which I'll happily brew or dry and eat with honey is much better than a a section of the grow ruined because a sheet gave each shroom a nasty paper cut.

On the topic of aborts. I hear they're more potent than your average shroom gram for gram, any truth to this?

Sorry for all the questions, first time grower. But if anyone here wants to make DMT on the cheap I can give help with that. Very easy to do and you get results in a day (well just over 24h, depends on how cold your freezer can get tbh) and you can keep on 'pulling' like we keep on flushing until no DMT remains. I got 2g off 100g of MHRB. Shit was amazing.


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21899813 - 07/05/15 06:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I've typically found that once they start getting significantly longer (as it looks like yours have just begun to) they usually finish up within 2 days.  How much the pin fattens up before that seems to sort of determine how big they will get.

Just some casual conjecture based on a few observations though.

BTW what variety is that?  Those caps look almost silver.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


No, this does not look right...


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21899834 - 07/05/15 06:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Cubensis. Albino A+, or AA+ for short. It's a mutation on the A+ strain so not a true albino (spores are still coloured) but the caps should be silvery white to blue. Cool, eh?
Hell if someone were trying to make commercial gain, or just name their strain 'silvercaps' would sound awesome.:laugh:


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21899855 - 07/05/15 06:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Stem coloration threw me off.  I've seen that color pin come up on a few true albino mutants come to think of it.  They look like beauties!


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21899918 - 07/05/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Mushrooms definitely aren't afraid to push against stuff.



+1, they will just bend over. I had the lids popped off containers by the force of growing shrooms.







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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21899934 - 07/05/15 07:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Stem coloration threw me off.  I've seen that color pin come up on a few true albino mutants come to think of it.  They look like beauties!



I know right.
I bought the grow kit just because I've never liked mushrooms though mycology has started to fascinate me. Ever since I was a kid "what do you want to be when you're older" "a scientist", naturally I never knew science was a branching heap of different things when I was 4 though learning a bit of mycology on the side as well as pharm-chem (with an outlook to work for the highest bidder, licit, or otherwise so long as nobody gets hurt in the process) as my main focus would be lovely. After this I might make a small monotub or shotgun tub and use prints from some of these caps to make spore syringes, my spare room just so happens to be a temperate and humid 23c (if it overheats I open the window), come winter I'll just set up with a heat mat bought from the reptile centre in my city centre, or online.
The only real barrier is that I live with my mother (no I'm not a kid, the place is co-rented with me paying half) so if I got found out I'd just remind her that this is my property too and I've claimed the spare room as my main investment out of the £200 odd she gets a month toward the £450 rent. I'll probably just get a minor telling off and an "if the cops catch you at this don't say I didn't warn you".
Not like she was taking shrooms, acid and MDMA when she was my age and I've had the kitchen stink of weed a few times until my thinly veiled jabs "did you burn something in the oven?" "That room smells odd, are you trying some new herbal cream for your scars?" (long story short I saved her life by pulling her out of a fire and getting her rolled on the ground as she decided to throw) petrol (gas) on a lit fire as opposed to pouring it straight down, or adding motor oil and pouring (the oil thickens it up well enough), I have my own firestarting mixture of methanol, motor oil and petrol that when shaken becomes an emulsion that's not unlike thin napalm and burns extremely slowly, hissing and cracking like gunpowder, it Gets fires going very well. Though a hairdryer (basically an oxygen pump or bellows 2.0) still works best if you don't mind getting ash everywhere. but I digress, it's safer (though still extremely dangerous) to pour flammable liquids onto a lit fire. I've managed it tripping on the most intense acid tabs I've ever had so it can't be that hard) and kept these up until she moved her smoking outside as she has this thing where she can't admit to doing (illegal) drugs and is irritated by me taking them ever since she took a job as a psychologist in funny farms. Before her indoctrination as a wage slave she was pretty cool when it came to drugs and kept trying to trip me out when I walked in stoned out of my head at age 13.


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21899963 - 07/05/15 07:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I have my own firestarting mixture of methanol, motor oil and petrol that when shaken becomes an emulsion that's not unlike thin napalm and burns extremely slowly, hissing and cracking like gunpowder, it Gets fires going very well.




What about dry leaves...?  :uhoh:


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: the_other]
    #21899999 - 07/05/15 08:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Not readily available in the U.K.


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: the_other]
    #21900018 - 07/05/15 08:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I have my own firestarting mixture of methanol, motor oil and petrol that when shaken becomes an emulsion that's not unlike thin napalm and burns extremely slowly, hissing and cracking like gunpowder, it Gets fires going very well.




What about dry leaves...?  :uhoh:



I can start a fire with nothing more than some cotton (or a tampon :rolleyes: which is just extremely dense highly compressed cotton wool) some dry leaves and dried wood. Oh and a magnifying glass or a firesteel. Survivalism and basic first aid (how to suture a wound (though for small deep straight cuts store bought superglue will work better and cause less scarring than with staples or stitches; from personal experience) people should know how to set broken bones and whether an injury simply needs supportive care or if they need surgery or professional treatment as well as that they should own a tourniquet (the CAT is probably the best out there) which according to new information can be applied for hours without loss of limb; besides, losing a leg or an arm is much better than bleeding out) and finally know how to give an intramuscular, sub-Q and IV injection, perform CPR and use an AED) should be taught in schools. It would stop the hospitals from being clogged up with relatively minor injuries, like the arterial knife wound I cut into my thumb. It went so deep that running under water you could see the skin flap about, after 15 mins of pressure and elevation all I was left with was a bloodsoaked rag that you could wring blood out of, I applied my CAT one handed, kept clenching after I'd lost my distal pulse then ran the completely blood free cut under a tap; cut to the bone. I had my mother hold it shut while I glued it, leaving a small gap for drainage in-case it developed an infection.
If it had been brought to a hospital I'd have waited 4-8 hours on a doctor to put me through pain by suturing so close to the fingernail, where you can't really numb with lidocaine. About 2 months later (now) all I can see is a small white line rather than the large suture scars people get with stitches.
But I'm going off on a tangent again :blush:.
This was in the middle of winter with no wood and only coal. The starter liquid got it lit. Probably best to keep the mouth of the container well away from naked flames as methanol fumes build up and cause it to combust inside. Usually harmless but terrifying as all you hear is "whoomph" and see a flash of blue flame shoot out the end of the container.

If lighting a fire in winter it is always best to use woodchips, newspaper, or fire-lighter blocks. I'd not recommend messing around with flammable liquids unless you like second and third degree burns.

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Not readily available in the U.K.



:ducklol:
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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #21900026 - 07/05/15 08:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So much information.    Definitely print a few of those.

Invitro vtek is probably the best stealth grow and first grow.  I'm making a guide on the PF version of it.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21390984

I made shotgun minitubs.  The 25-30 quart ones run a bit dry (IMO,) though people have had success.  Shotgun tinfoil pans with plastic lids (ie bring lasagnia to party pans) work pretty well and are dirt cheap.

Your own grow is totally doable for very cheap.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #21902067 - 07/05/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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So much information.    Definitely print a few of those.

Invitro vtek is probably the best stealth grow and first grow.  I'm making a guide on the PF version of it.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21390984

I made shotgun minitubs.  The 25-30 quart ones run a bit dry (IMO,) though people have had success.  Shotgun tinfoil pans with plastic lids (ie bring lasagnia to party pans) work pretty well and are dirt cheap.

Your own grow is totally doable for very cheap.



This was written hours ago, I fell asleep, I'm pretty sleep deprived atm.
<Start of rambling>
Hoping the mushrooms can help me get to the root of my benzo addiction and occasional Heroin use for which I'm now on subutex (I'll hopefully switch to m-done) but long story short I was 17, had two torn cruciate ligaments in my knee after being hit and thrown 20-25m by a 7 seater (never got any claim money because the only real witness was a compulsive liar), I didn't know what day it was. Turns out I got lucky as some kid my age (at the time) died there a year to that day) that was full of noisy kids and an inattentive driver, and her husband, who berated me for smashing his front window with my head. when in hospital they kept me in for a week because the totally incompetent doctors x-rayed my right leg twice instead of a left and right (it took them a day to realise this; thank fuck I've only got one spine) and despite me saying "my left leg is broken, I know what a broken bone feels like" for those 24 hours they put me on meds (NSAIDS which exacerbate broken bones until a senior doctor eventually came over to me after I kept waking up with a yelp as my leg twitched (before this I was told that I was very lucky and my knee was just strained when it was 3x it's normal size, they even tried to make me walk on it; I vaguely remember telling the nurse something about a scalding hot watermelon and her backside), the doctor coming my way asked me to come down to the X-ray room, when I asked why "we had a junior doctor do your x-rays and in they must have accidentally done two x-rays of your right leg, within 10 minutes I was told it was broken (to which I replied 'broken bone, morphine please') eventually I got set up on a children's (17 at the time) ward and after the nurse doing a shitty job of washing vomit out of my hair (this is a whole other story, but they wanted me to vomit in the supine position (I had been asking for antiemetics for an hour) and when I vomited they hooked me up to the shittiest suction machine ever, they refused to tilt me and tried to hold me down, it was only when base instinct (drowning on my own vomit) kicked in and a tried/might have punched a doctor did they back off so I could sit slightly up and lean, filling my long hippie hair with vomit, this has left me with a phobia of any medical professional working on me, I know in my (very pleasant) dentists there were fingernail marks left on the chair after my visit. The nurse did a half assed job of washing my hair so all I could smell for a week was vomit, in the end after a surgeon wanted to do open, exploratory surgery on my knee as their MRI was broken I told him that all I've seen so far was incompetence from these doctors and nurses and he wouldn't be touching my knee. The anaestheseologist was nice enough (but the knee surgeon was a pompous arsehole who kept throwing his name around, when I spoke to a leading specialist a yearr later he had never heard of surgeon cuntface) (they had a cup of tea while the 17 year old girl across for me kept practically yelling nurse and pounding on the call button so I had to drag my self to a wheelchair and wheel 10m to the nursing station where I could hear her loud and clear they were eating biscuits and drinking tea, turning up the volume on the TV to drown out the girl's (and another boy's) cries for her help, they didn't notice me until I scared the shit out of them with an "'ahem'; are you fucking deaf, I can hear two people calling you and instead of doing what you're paid to do you drink tea, eat biscuits and turn up the volume to ignore cries for help" to which they yelled at me for being out of bed with a broken leg and used wheeling me back to my bed as an 'excuse' to talk to the girl who's PCA wasn't giving a high enough dose.
But back to the surgeon who wanted to leave a 6" scar just to see what was wrong, I demanded to be discharged the next day; he then went to my mother and tried to get her to sign a consent form as I was 17. While he was outside I broke into my secret stash of Liquorice Allsorts and slowly ate them while the surgeon came in "Oh man these are delicious, I was starving, pity your nurses fasted me for 3 days when they knew you would be in today and today only, I just couldn't help myself. Turns out my mother had been sweet talked into signing by the surgeon but eating 12/24 hours before a surgery means no surgery so the look from the surgeon was one of those looks when someone suddenly gets slapped in the face. He spat at the foot of my bed and stomped out of the ward in a childish tantrum.
I was given a cast, taught how to use crutches and discharged one day later against medical advice. #1 on my agenda, wash the chunks of vomit from my hair #2 go to the main hospital for the city with an excellent reputation, there I was fast-tracked to a knee specialist who said she saw no need for surgery until the break had healed due to the type of it (I was able to explain it to her) but I might need a replacement knee before 30, I was also told the hospital had put the wrong type of cast on my leg which could potentially cause issues in walking, so off that heavy POP cast came and a nice lightweight composite one was applied, this was probably the NHS at it's best.
My aunt from England came over, heard my story, personally drove down to the hospital with me and started yelling at all the nurses who had been on (basically I was the fingerman) and made sure she sent a complaint to the medical authority for that borough.

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After being dischaged from 20mg diamorphine (Heroin, 100% pure) was put on buprenorphine-transdermal 10ug/hr, and tramadol. So naturally I went to the person I knew who had cancer and sold her oxies and it progressed from there. Doctors have to get the idea that young people don't feel pain out of their backwards minds. They gave my grandmother fentanyl patches for a slight pain in her neck, when they don't hand out oxies or the like for a broken leg and multiple torn ligaments (there were lots, the cruciates are just the most important (cruciate = crucial in Latin IIRC))

It is lots of info but it's worth learning (I assume you mean the medical side of things), I'll put it this way; I had to suture a close friend up. I have lidocaine on hand and the means to dispense that at a site subcutaneousely or just squirt it directly into the wound (usually with a small amount of stimulant vasoconstrictor such as crystal meth (in sub psychoavtive amounts, like 1mg, to stop the lidocaine being washed away by blood so quickly. Dentists use noradrenaline but it's hard if not impossible to get so beggars can't be choosers) so I would usually use either sterile suture or if that was unavailable dental floss that has been steamed (which again I had to use), if you can't get a needle driver or simply don't have one use needle nose pliers unless the wound is in an unusual place requiring more precision. If you don't have a suture needle use wire cutters or tin snips to shorten a normal needle to about half size. A belt sander and sharpening hone (the Lansky kit is good for sharpening things without experience with a hone),  get this needle good and sharp and go down to your butchers and ask for some pig's trotters, they'll cost next to nothing, get a (razor (and I mean 'I can shave with this') sharp knife and make a few different kinds of wounds. There are plenty of videos online of what I've described on (dead) pigs trotters needing stitches. Look around online if you can and get a proper sterile suture kit (for emergency only) they aren't expense and save long waiting times/unnecessary hospital bills, learn to use an AED too, they're everywhere any knowing how to ignore the instructions printed on the inside (or give them a quick glance) could save a life, for CPR see if you can get one of the CPR masks that filter the air as well as give you gloves. They don't cost much, I got mine free with a medical course. Gloves would be good for doing finger sweeps to clear throat blockages (seriously, who wants to stick your hand down someone else's throat only to scoop out their lunch bare handed) the mask will stop you getting things like cold sores and the like and can be hooked up to an 02 tank after or during CPR.

<End rambling, start talking about shrooms and some photography.

First off, what on earth is a shotgun tub. Someone needs to link me to a tek? Second off I've been composing a (rather terrible) stop motion of the mushrooms growing but a bit of conversion to 1080p and then sony vegas should iron out any kinks. Long story short photography is one of the things that keeps me away from and oxymoronically brings me back to Heroin as I end up in town for the day. I mainly do street photography, taking photos of interesting looking people or events. I caught two people fighting once and as soon as they noticed I was snapping away at 10 feet they settled their differences and came tearing after me. I've got some other goodies that would be up on my flickr should you want a link (I'd link it here and now but I don't want to look like I'm view-whoring), the lens on the camera is the same focal length (magnification) as the human eye 25mm with a crop factor of 2 making 50mm eqiv if it were a 35mm film of 'full frame' lens, but this setup costs close to 1.2k, getting a full frame would be 1.2k for the body, maybe a cheap plasticky kit lens if you're lucky and £500+ for 'enthusiast' and 'prosumer' lenses, whereas pro lenses like the one I'm using for the time-lapse (panasonic-leica 25mm f.1.4, my prize piece of glass) but I digress. What on earth is a shotgun tub, I've searched and searched and can't find anything. Is it a big tub filled with mycelium and substrate that fires the mushrooms out at everyone once they're mature, like a shotgun blast?  :canthelpbutlaugh:
This grow kit has opened up a whole other world to me, to all the people who say growkits suck, they're right, but I bet a bunch of growers escalate from kits to monotubs, rice cakes or these mystical shotgun tubs I keep hearing about.


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21902668 - 07/05/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:rockon: those look amazing. I'm so happy you listened and gave em more fae. They look like they're loving it. When are you harvesting?


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Mad Season]
    #21903132 - 07/05/15 10:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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:rockon: those look amazing. I'm so happy you listened and gave em more fae. They look like they're loving it. When are you harvesting?



As soon as I see the first veil or two split, or should I harvest before?
I'll probably leave one or two to come to full cap and take a spore print, though it's my knowledge that to spore print the cap has to be fully open, right?. I just don't want a box full of black shrooms.
I've continued the little time lapse but it'll look jerky when all is put together, I'll see if I can do a bit of editing on it but all time lapse programs offering this come at a steep price and I can't find them 'elsewhere'for free :uhoh:.
The main problem is that the white balance goes way off and makes parts of it look green (convinced that this is due to electronic shutter on IA 'intelligent auto' only going to 1s of exposure time (compared to 60s, or unlimited if you hold the button down (which would seriously cause the image to blur, which is why it's called bulb; back in the days of mechanically re-cocking your shutter on an SLR (remember in the original scream movie where she (news producer girl) just keeps taking pictures and moving her thumb on the lever to advance the film, this also re-cocks the shutter, once the shutter was cocked and completely manual instead of having a digital button you would just lock into place you'd have a little rubber bulb, pushing it in held the shutter's second curtain open after opening the first) so it bumps the ISO (sensor sensitivity) way up to about 25,000 (for a point of reference, I usually shoot at 125 ISO), this 'overcharging' of the sensor usually results in images coming out in a green colour, though I've been able to make it look bearable (it only happens in about 10% of each lapse that I'll stitch) together, but there will be periods where the colour will be washed out. But better a sharp image with grain than a blurry one where you can't see shit.
The battery on the camera is astounding (and so is the time lapse mode, I reckon I could leave it for 48 hours on one charge. My phone can barely manage that on standby, if I turned the screen on for every fraction of a second during daytime and for 60s+ at night (I've engaged the manual shutter for night shots, turns out if these are ready in a few days I'll only have fired the shutter a few hundred times (the shutter is usually the first thing to go on a well maintained mirrorless, the mirror on a DSLR) every 10 minutes the phone would be dead in five or six hours and all it's doing is turning on a light. When this takes a photo the image processor would be comparable to an ultrabook's processor as using it to make JEPG images (you can skip the jpeg part all together and shoot in RAW, giving you all the detail the sensor picked up, uncompressed and un-tampered with though since you're getting every last detail off the sensor it'll chuck out a 20mb+ file as opposed to a 6-7mb file; it's advantage would be the fact that it's much easier to fix mistakes losslessley in a program like lightroom, so areas in a JPEG that might be total darkness can be brightened up, or an overexposed image can be brought back down to normal lighting rather than the white sections you could never remove in a JPEG without using a composite in photoshop. Lightroom does JPEGs too, just not as well as raw. Personally unless I have time to switch from C2 (custom 2, or A (aperture priority; sadly this doesn't let you have a companion cube) with a few custom features for street shooting) to M (manual) where it might take up to a minute to compose an image so it looks 'picture perfect' As well as that I feel it gives me more discipline knowing I can't fix my photos after do I'll have to get creative (ie if the sky is whitewashing an image a bit too much I'll flip the screen out and hold it inches from the ground and take my shot using the buildings as cover. NB if you do this near anyone wearing a short skirt expect trouble. :spank:) but I digress since I know next to nothing about the magic of mycology how many days (ballpark, I'm not going to whine and go "well you said") do you reckon it'll take before it's time to harvest.

I know we've had our differences guys, but thanks for all the help, I couldn't have done it without you.:heart:


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Re: What to do when your mushrooms get too big for the container they are in? [Re: Diacetylmorphine]
    #21903155 - 07/05/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Are you in college? Geez you sure do type a lot.
Very nice pins by the way. Make much progress from earlier?


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