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Bill_Oreilly
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to me it was the ultimate experience...the highest a man can get...the apocalypse and the resurrection...death and reincarnation
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Re: Taking insane amounts of 4-Aco-DMT. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21915872 - 07/08/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i have to say it was up there i have had 2 experiences with oral dmt that are tied with it. both were with an ounce or more of some super pontent mhrb. and an experience with dpt that ties it or atleast comes pretty close
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Bill_Oreilly
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Do you think theres a chance you didn't hit the vein 100% properly? because I remember getting the absolute craziest rush of my life..superior to anything heroin gave me or cocaine. and cocaine gives mean rushes. it wasn't like this euphoric rish though...it was very weird. but the most intense rush I ever felt to the point I thought I had just killed myself
honestly...the most shocking part of the whole trip was finding out I had survived it
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: Taking insane amounts of 4-Aco-DMT. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21915925 - 07/08/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i got the vein i had some trouble hitting it at first because i dont iv really but i made sure i had it perfect before i pushed the plunger. and yes i got an extreme rush heard the carrier wave and saw spirits flying all at onece. it was really pretty overwhelming.
and ive only snorted coke and heroin so i really cant compare rushes.... and it shows i had never shot before i tried several times and looked like a junkey after my first iv experience i had so many marks
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Re: Taking insane amounts of 4-Aco-DMT. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21916407 - 07/08/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: Do you think theres a chance you didn't hit the vein 100% properly? because I remember getting the absolute craziest rush of my life..superior to anything heroin gave me or cocaine. and cocaine gives mean rushes. it wasn't like this euphoric rish though...it was very weird. but the most intense rush I ever felt to the point I thought I had just killed myself
honestly...the most shocking part of the whole trip was finding out I had survived it
Did you really or are you just in wonderland and you've been here so long you don't even know it? I feel that way sometimes I keep thinking one day im just going to wake up and all this will have been a dream.
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Re: Taking insane amounts of 4-Aco-DMT. [Re: thewanderer25]
#21916446 - 07/08/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: Do you think theres a chance you didn't hit the vein 100% properly? because I remember getting the absolute craziest rush of my life..superior to anything heroin gave me or cocaine. and cocaine gives mean rushes. it wasn't like this euphoric rish though...it was very weird. but the most intense rush I ever felt to the point I thought I had just killed myself
honestly...the most shocking part of the whole trip was finding out I had survived it
Did you really or are you just in wonderland and you've been here so long you don't even know it? I feel that way sometimes I keep thinking one day im just going to wake up and all this will have been a dream.
Some times I think I'm gonna wake up and it was just a DMT trip lol
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Re: Taking insane amounts of 4-Aco-DMT. [Re: Eggtimer]
#21916505 - 07/08/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: Do you think theres a chance you didn't hit the vein 100% properly? because I remember getting the absolute craziest rush of my life..superior to anything heroin gave me or cocaine. and cocaine gives mean rushes. it wasn't like this euphoric rish though...it was very weird. but the most intense rush I ever felt to the point I thought I had just killed myself
honestly...the most shocking part of the whole trip was finding out I had survived it
Did you really or are you just in wonderland and you've been here so long you don't even know it? I feel that way sometimes I keep thinking one day im just going to wake up and all this will have been a dream.
Some times I think I'm gonna wake up and it was just a DMT trip lol
Sometimes it feels like I am the only ACTUAL concious mind in this Matrix like world. And then I sit and think......man...I must be trippin
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: Taking insane amounts of 4-Aco-DMT. [Re: thewanderer25]
#21916530 - 07/08/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: Do you think theres a chance you didn't hit the vein 100% properly? because I remember getting the absolute craziest rush of my life..superior to anything heroin gave me or cocaine. and cocaine gives mean rushes. it wasn't like this euphoric rish though...it was very weird. but the most intense rush I ever felt to the point I thought I had just killed myself
honestly...the most shocking part of the whole trip was finding out I had survived it
Did you really or are you just in wonderland and you've been here so long you don't even know it? I feel that way sometimes I keep thinking one day im just going to wake up and all this will have been a dream.
after injecting that stuff, honestly I don't know what to believe anymore. I totally shut down my whole circuit or operating system...whatever you want to call it. Like this wasn't just a trip..this was legitimately hacking into the human being with the master keys only the master chemist holds. It was like pressing control alt delete and resetting everything. Words just fail because this was some hyper matrix "THE END" barcoded death that I somehow induced. I like to call it "the death shot"..and after, I got hyper-fast matrix-green numbers(00101010..) the whole experience was red-based as if I just plunged into alien hell.
people like to call DMT a rollercoaster...well if DMT is a rollercoaster then this is a cannon
aw shucks...look what you made me do...another 4-acO-DMT rant under my belt
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Re: Taking insane amounts of 4-Aco-DMT. [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21961354 - 07/18/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Should help visualize how both compounds metabolize into psilocin.
I'm betting that DMT-sulfate ester would metabolize to psilocin as well...
Here's another post where I speculated on the matter after review a shulgin comment:
Any such ester, be it the phosphate, the sulfate, or the acetate, would all be easily split to the archetypal indolol by the ubiquitous esterases in the body -A. Shulgin; TIHKAL; 1997
Meaning that the sulfate ester of DMT should convert to 4-hydroxy-DMT (psilocin) just as easily as the phosphate or acetate ester.
Does a 4 substituted sulfate ester of DMT exist?
I don't know, but I can bet that it would metabolize into psilocin just as readily as 4-po-DMT or 4-ACO-DMT.
Maybe a 4 substituted propionyl ester of DMT, or a close variation of it would metabolize to psilocin as well...
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Re: Taking insane amounts of 4-Aco-DMT. [Re: thewanderer25]
#21961758 - 07/18/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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thewanderer25 said: I ate 35 hits of good LSD at one point it was utterly insane. The floor was swirling and I was going the whole world no longer exestid it was absurd with worm holes and all kinds of crazy things. I would not do that dose again I would of up untill yesterday but I realized that going that far on those kinds of things is meaningless and stupid.
Ayahuasca is what I like now and it doesn't take me far like that but at least its clear visions and not just cool. Dont get me wrong I love it when the walls are melting and the floor is going around and around but its not meaningful I really like ayahuasca because it means something. I think 10 tabs is enough for me im done going into crazyland I would much rather explore the forest with oral DMT than some crazy swirling things.
If ayahuasca isn't taking you as far as that, you're not taking enough. I have had experiences on aya and pharma, higher doses sure, that are incomparable to any experience I've had before. I have, with a 200+ mg pharma experience, been at deaths gate. I understood that what I was experiencing was similar to if not the exact same as death. Only instead of non existence, after floating out of my body and delving into a realm I have never before experienced, I came back to my body, humbled more so than I can even closely relay in text.
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Re: Taking insane amounts of 4-Aco-DMT. [Re: natedawgnow]
#21961819 - 07/18/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have had pharma and aya experiences that straight FLOORED me. I mean, unable to speak, unable to move, gripping the earth for fear of being flung off of it into the abyss. I don't know who is preparing your ayahuasca, but it sounds like you are not getting the full spectrum of potential that ayahuasca or pharmahuasca has to offer.
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Re: Taking insane amounts of 4-Aco-DMT. [Re: natedawgnow]
#21962173 - 07/18/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well thanks to this thread I now know I did 400mg orally or the equivalent of 70 grams of dry cubes. Nice.
My experience was nothing like Bill's, so I need to revisit this with a needle at some point.
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Re: Taking insane amounts of 4-Aco-DMT. [Re: Govam]
#21962245 - 07/18/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I took 60mg of 4-aco-dmt one time I was walking in circles singing to myself for a while haha.
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Re: Taking insane amounts of 4-Aco-DMT. [Re: Govam]
#21962531 - 07/18/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I did 33mg yesterday. Doing 400mg would annihilate me.
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Re: Taking insane amounts of 4-Aco-DMT. [Re: natedawgnow]
#21962831 - 07/18/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: I have had pharma and aya experiences that straight FLOORED me. I mean, unable to speak, unable to move, gripping the earth for fear of being flung off of it into the abyss. I don't know who is preparing your ayahuasca, but it sounds like you are not getting the full spectrum of potential that ayahuasca or pharmahuasca has to offer.
I prepare my own and use 20 grams of powered acacia confusa simmered for 45 minutes 3 times then do 5 or 6 grams of rue. I read that was a high dose but its never been that crazy. How do you prepare such a powerful brew? Im already using double the amount they said was a good dose...
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Re: Taking insane amounts of 4-Aco-DMT. [Re: thewanderer25]
#21962837 - 07/18/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Holly fuck bill o'reilly is banned. wtf happend?
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Re: Taking insane amounts of 4-Aco-DMT. [Re: thewanderer25]
#21962857 - 07/18/15 11:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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How do you know he's banned?
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Re: Taking insane amounts of 4-Aco-DMT. [Re: Nature Boy]
#21962864 - 07/18/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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When you go to someone's profile, at the bottom above the show ratings/posts/etc it will say "User is banned" if they're banned
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Re: Taking insane amounts of 4-Aco-DMT. [Re: thewanderer25]
#21962871 - 07/18/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I almost exclusively make pharmahuasca nowadays. It involves using extracted DMT crystal, about 1mg per body pound is a heavy trip. I weigh 170 and and I usually do 150mg but I've done 200+ many times.
You use syrian rue or extracted harmala. If using extracted harmala I usually use 250 mg. If I'm making tea from the rue I use 5 grams.
I take a small glass and put about 2 oz of lemon juice into it and dump my freebase DMT into the juice and let it acidify into DMT citrate. Drink half the tea, wait 30 min. Then I dump the lemon juice into the tea and gulp it down fast (terrible taste). Then I enjoy the mind blownednesssss of the experience.
If I'm doing pure extracts, I still acidify my DMT with the lemon juice, but I take the 250mg of extracted harmala 20 or so minutes before downing the shot.
I've done the full tea prep, but I prefer pharmahuasca, A LOT less nausea and I can dose it how I feel
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Re: Taking insane amounts of 4-Aco-DMT. [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21962882 - 07/18/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ahhh...I see. Never visited another members profile before.
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