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Morals/Nitrous
    #21898627 - 07/04/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hello. I just want to discuss a matter ive been thinking about regarding people selling nitrous at festivals.

someone I know just lost all their money at a festival (someone either stole it or they got too drunk and lost it, they don't really know)

anyway there is another festival coming up, at the same location.. and they are considering bringing 1 20lb tank of medical nitrous to the festival to help make back what was lost at the previous festival.

the festival is small, i dont think there is more than 100-300 people going, and everybody knows eachother, loves eachother..everyone has good values.

a good amount of them bring their crafts and artwork, music to the festival to sell. and everyone brings money as well.... my worries are that if this friend of mine brings his nitrous and sells it to people, the vendors will have less business, people may fiend for nitrous and regret spending the money they do, on the nitrous. i dont want my friend to offend anyone and ruin any vibes..

so i guess those are the reasons it would be bad. but then.. nitrous can be a really great trip, sometimes even life changing for people. a window to another world where much is learned about different realities..how the brain works....etc. some of the nitrous trips ive taken are the most important trips i ever had. so on one hand, you may offend people, but on the other, you may show someone something theyve never seen, and they laugh and have such a great time, potentially leave them with really awesome memories of the trip they had at the festival. and also, festivals usually do have nitrous, its part of the party..right?

that said, the guy wants to just do the one run at the festival to help him get back on his feet, annd to the next festival.

so what do you guys think? should the guy do it? at the last festival at the same location with the same amount of people, run by different people, nobody seemed to mind. people really enjoyed the experience, had fun in the tent we were all doing nitrous in...

should i advise this guy not to do it or what?
i certainly wouldnt mind it, i f*** love nitrous.......


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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: ConcernedCitizen]
    #21898705 - 07/04/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

soooo where does the concern come in?:confused: its not like hes making people buy his n20, people can decide how they want to spend their money for themselves. people who want to buy some n20 got their n20, he got his money back and some.


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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: Psychedelics yummy]
    #21898740 - 07/04/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i guess hes just worried that he might piss off his friends who run the festival..peopel fiend for nitrous pretty bad


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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: ConcernedCitizen] * 1
    #21898840 - 07/04/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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nitrous can be a really great trip, sometimes even life changing for people.




Is this a joke?  Nitrous is at best a dalliance in extremely short term euphoria.


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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21898994 - 07/04/15 10:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:lolsy::lolsy:

For real


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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21899002 - 07/04/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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nitrous can be a really great trip, sometimes even life changing for people.




Is this a joke?  Nitrous is at best a dalliance in extremely short term euphoria.





This is what came to mind when I read that line.

Nitrous life changing.. Lol. Maybe I've used the wrong nitrous, but I see no potential at all for self reflection or life changing realizations. IMO it's the very epitome of a substance used solely to get high.


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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #21899039 - 07/04/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

ahhh...no its not a joke. some friends have said they don't get anything out of nitrous...

for me, ive seen it turn a room into a shining, color ray scanning, sacred G raining temple...walls completely covered in patterns..sometimes not even see anything but a giant gear that seems to be controlling the universe..or the entire room explodes and puts itself back together as if my own mind was holding matter and reality together. not only the visuals but intense uhh, delusions that helped me realize parts of different religions. i could go on and on about nitrous...we've had a very close relationship.
just a few weeks ago i remember , and this has happened maybe 3 times out of 3 years of doing nitrous heavily..

I died, crossed over into the after life. I was in a large tent with 3 other people and it was pitch black outside, raining. and a flash light making just enough light for everyone to see eachother and what we were doing. anyway..
the baloon hit me and the whole tent turned into a wet cave, there seemed to be writings on the walls of the cave that like cave men had left behind. my friend running the tank was wearing a bandana but he had turned into an indian like cheif. looked so much like an indian cheif i had to lean forward and look really hard at his face and the bandana cause i was mind blown. the two guys huffing nitro didnt really change much..they were just also indians but i was more tripped out by my friend. so fucking intense.. when that happens its as if you die and then youre in the afterlife, like "you friggin killed yourself. now you're here, and this is the mystic afterlife. DEAL WITH IT. YOU'RE DEAD" and i didnt really panic cause by then i could recognize that i was indeed, not dead..but the indian cheif thing really did trip me out cause he looked 100% like a f*** indian cheif.

the time that that happened before was at a festival just doen the road from my house... i had taken a baloon and INSTANTLY i had died, crossed over, everything and everybody was glowing sparkley blue and acting as if we were in a game show. I had died, and my friends *angels* had lined up to wish me goodbye because my dumb ass killed myself. The first angel was my friend noah who was in cali at the time, while i was in michigan. he was straight up right infront of me, face matched 100% to his, and he was huffing a baloon and not speaking, but saying "you went and did it. you killed yourself. well, welcome to this afterlife, which by the way is real, just like a fairy tale."
i must had looked like a 1st grader who just had his lunch stolen by a big bully because i didnt know whether to cry or just continue being obliviously happy. BUT..as the nitrous wore off, i realized that the person i thought was noah, was actually the same dude id been sitting and talking to for the last like hour, huffing a baloon.

fucking wild shit..and later that night the balloons were hitting like decent sized puffs of DMT, everything rolled away like a huge mayan wave and roared like a big psychedelic storm. cryptic languages id never seen were appearing and stuff.


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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: ConcernedCitizen]
    #21899062 - 07/04/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

here's the long and short of it

if you're selling a drug at a festival, expect to get fucked. if you dont, then
that's fucking great but the expectation of fuckery is still high


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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21899066 - 07/04/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Shroomslip said:


Nitrous life changing.. Lol. Maybe I've used the wrong nitrous, but I see no potential at all for self reflection or life changing realizations. IMO it's the very epitome of a substance used solely to get high.






dude... you need some of that hydroponic nitrous, that shit is mind blowing


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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21899077 - 07/04/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

theres no worry of selling drugs at this festival..
there is zero security. but i think i got my answer.
no one is making anyone buy n2o. i just was worried, or concerned, that my friend might piss people off by running a tank at such a small, close knit festival. its not like its a big party full of random people where nitrous wouldnt be a suprise. dont want it to be a random out of place, uncalled for type of thing.


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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21899114 - 07/04/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Shroomslip said:


Nitrous life changing.. Lol. Maybe I've used the wrong nitrous, but I see no potential at all for self reflection or life changing realizations. IMO it's the very epitome of a substance used solely to get high.






dude... you need some of that hydroponic nitrous, that shit is mind blowing



Who do you think you're talking to dude? All my shit is the most pure, fire, mind blowing shit available.. I probably pay 1/10th of what you do for your crappy, stepped on bunk shit. I'm hardcore. My drugs are better than everyone else's drugs.


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I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: ConcernedCitizen]
    #21899138 - 07/04/15 11:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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theres no worry of selling drugs at this festival..





the fucking comes from people you think are friends, the ones that dip into your pockets while you're out


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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21899188 - 07/04/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

O..yea..
fuck those people.


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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: ConcernedCitizen]
    #21899204 - 07/04/15 11:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I agree but they always seem to be around so unless there's someone with you that
you can trust it would be very advisable for you to stay alert to the bullshit
and dont get too fucked up yourself


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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21899236 - 07/05/15 12:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

its too bad! id like to think we can all get fucked up as we want. and not have to worry about assholes.. at the fest i was at , i either lost my wallet , or someone stole it..either way. i thought the fest was all good people. and was suprised to find the wallet with zero dollars.. if i found a wallet with money in it..id return it to the person it belonged to. WITH the money in it. definitely would expect any person id consider a friend or friendly aquaintance to do the same


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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21901058 - 07/05/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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nitrous can be a really great trip, sometimes even life changing for people.




Is this a joke?  Nitrous is at best a dalliance in extremely short term euphoria.






By itself it is, but when it's inhaled whilst one is on a psychedelic it's throws ya out there quite far.....

Some Of my experiences with it and lsd are easily on par with my smoked dmt experiences, a couple that I'd label life changing for sure.





Some posts in this thread show nitrous can trigger some gnarly & profound shit in an instant.....

LSD + Nitrous Oxide

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openmind said:

......Inhaling the balloon while laying down in my tent...With eyes open I started to see pattering that I can only describe as Penrose Tiling start to form in the air itself, the patterns were semi-transparent and vibrating/buzzing and shifting around in various layers ever so slightly. I quickly lose touch/dissolve, "break off" from the here and now of where I was, and become nothing more than a point of awareness laying upon and meshed into a flat grid/plane which expanded infinitely. While there, my point of awareness was composed of/represented by, all I was, was a purple Dodecahedron. This dodecahedron had a very interesting dynamic to it that I could feel just as if it was my body, it had movement in several different "axis" simultaneously. It was buzzing/vibrating, spinning in circles very slowly, and what stood out the most was an oscillation/pull of sorts that was at a low frequency, around 7hz to 10hz or so. This sensation of the oscillation/pull was remarkably similar to the feeling of holding a spinning bike wheel in between your hands, that feeling of pull that comes from the angular momentum & Gyroscopic precession of a spinning object.

So I became this spinning/vibrating/oscillating purple dodecahedron hovering above/laying upon an infinite grid, within an infinite expanse of nothing...just this infinite grid, and the dodecahedron. But I was also very much aware of and a part of the infinite grid as well, ever fabric of my being/awareness was meshed into and stretched out across the infinite grid , and there was that low frequency/oscilation feeling coursing through me. While this was occurring I was simply just aware, observing, there wasn't much sense of my self, my ego. As my sense of self started to trickle back, I was filled with the utmost feeling of "awe", grandeur, appreciation, thankfulness, pure unadulterated bliss, ecstasy.

I'm not sure how long I was "out" for, but when I started to come back to I had an intense sensation that I can only describe as something pouring out of my chest/solar plexus region....accompanied with this sensation was uncontrollable heavy ecstatic breathing that went on for at least several minutes, all the while tears were pouring out of my eyes like a busted faucet.


I wasn't sure what to make of the whole ordeal, as I had never been kicked out there quite like that before with L & nitrous. It felt like my awareness slipped into some abstract background, some fundamental place that underlies and gives rise to this 3D meat-space we find ourselves stuck in, or consciousness itself. I mean words can only go so far at conveying things, which they tend to fail horribly, but in a certain aspect this was hands down the most profound psychedelic experience I've had, as in being completely gone, my awareness was transported to an entirely different place......








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https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=88760

.......I remember a feeling of apprehension, as if I were doing N2O again for the first time. I inhale a quarter to a third of it, and the following is instantaneously my true and only reality as the veil is lifted from this world:

I look to my left, and instead of the other side of a couch, I see a little boy standing in a field in the daytime, as clear as anything, no psychedelic distortions or surreality that would indicate it was anything other than what my eyes were looking at. He is wearing Indian clothing and the thought comes to me 'Oh, I'm in India', and as this simultaneously is reconciled with my knowledge that 'I' am in Washington sitting on a couch, all contradiction and duality becomes nullified as my sense of being a distinct individual is obliterated by this ultramind of infinite consciousness.

This 'boy' was part of a long line of people all over the world, who had ever lived or would ever live, and this line of people culminated into a huge rotating crowded disc of teeming lifeforms that were all moving towards the center. In previous nitrous + psychedelic experiences, I had gotten the deja vu sense that I was viewing a 'prophecy' of an event which was yet to happen, and I knew that THIS was the foretold event. At this center of the 'universal wheel / galaxy' I felt the presence of an 'energy being' who with such profound forgiveness welcomed me weeping ecstatically into its arms, that I knew it must be Christ, and the athiest part of my rational understanding pipes in with 'Ya GOTTA be shitting me?'........









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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: openmind] * 1
    #21901966 - 07/05/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

seriously openmind

a bunch of you guys sound like youve never done nitrous on other psychs

if youre doing nitrous without other drugs, youre doing it wrong


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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: Bassfreak]
    #21901978 - 07/05/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

nitrous mafia might get pissed. you'll tip the scales on the market


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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: theonlysun81]
    #21964482 - 07/19/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i ended up bringing a 10lb...
i started to do it the moment i got it, and didnt quit until it was gone. no one else really got any..hahahh

and yeaah...
nitrous can definitely be up there with DMT!

at electric forest in 2013 or 2014 someone let me have a couple charges after the first night...

i went and layed in my tent, huffed the first one...
and i was completely alone in what seemed like a box, couldnt see any thing except for a few different shapes that were slithering around like snakes (i feel like i could have spoken in snake language)

and all i could hear was echoes bouncing around the inside of my tent...literaly, hit one side of the inside of tent, bounce off to the other side, back to the other side, etc...

someone told me they heard of someone getting that effect when they smoke Creamsters...crack and deemsters...but they could actually see the sound waves bouncing off the walls. THAT IS CRAZY.... THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING A SUPER HERO COULD SEE... sound waves bouncing off walls, in actual reality..


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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: ConcernedCitizen]
    #21964521 - 07/19/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Edited by drr (01/07/23 06:33 PM)


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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: ConcernedCitizen]
    #21964528 - 07/19/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Creamsters...crack and deemsters....






why would anybody do that. that sounds like a heart attack in a bowl.


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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: Salomon]
    #21964585 - 07/19/15 11:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

yeah. i decided to bring it... it definitely was OK to bring it..but i failed hooribly at getting money.. (i didn't get money)

i was just scared that the property owners or runners of the festival would be angry..and its kind of like a big family at that place...so not trying to piss off people that otherwise care about me, and i about them


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Re: Morals/Nitrous [Re: Salomon]
    #21964590 - 07/19/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Salomon said:
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ConcernedCitizen said:

Creamsters...crack and deemsters....






why would anybody do that. that sounds like a heart attack in a bowl.




i guess someone was dead serious about tripping balls, lol
crack and deemsters sounds like nitrous times 20....


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