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Proud to be an American,
    #21898387 - 07/04/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Where at least I know I'm me
Where the magazines and TV screens
Tell me who to be

And I'm proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm safe
From Oxycontin, Adderall
Klonopin, ecstasy and crank

And I'm proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm free
Where most of my time is spent trying to find
The best time for me to leave



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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Shiithead]
    #21898393 - 07/04/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

fuck this country


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` [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21898461 - 07/04/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: BlackWidow]
    #21898508 - 07/04/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)





Virgin land of forest green, dark and stormy plains, here all life abounds
Sunlit valley, mountain fields, unseen in the rain, here all life abounds
No man rules this land, no human hand has soiled this paradise
Waiting patiently, so much to see, so rich in Earth's delights

Painted desert, sequined sky, stars that fill the night, here all life abounds
Rivers flowing to the sea, sunshine pure and bright, here all life abounds
No man rules this land, no human hand has soiled this paradise
Waiting patiently, so much to see, so rich in Earth's delights

So the maiden lies in waiting, for the sails to reach the shore
Land of beauty and abundance, innocent, you opened wide your door
Wanderers found the waiting treasure, full of gifts beyond their measure
Milk and honey for our pleasure.....

Across the sea there came a multitude, sailing ships upon the wave
Filled with visions of Utopia, and the freedom that they crave
Ravage, plunder, see no wonder, rape and kill and tear asunder
Chop the forest, plow it under.....

Highways scar the mountainsides, buildings to the sky, people all around
Houses stand in endless rows, sea to shining sea, people all around
So we rule this land, and here we stand upon our paradise,
Dreaming of a place, our weary race is ready to arise.




Edited by Adolin (07/04/15 09:04 PM)


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Adolin]
    #21898659 - 07/04/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

your country would be much more sucessful if you didnt have the mentality that you have to be the best at everything


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #21898678 - 07/04/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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luvdemboomers said:
fuck this country




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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: kakashi68]
    #21898723 - 07/04/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

its not the country its the people.


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Psalm 12:6
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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Shiithead]
    #21899507 - 07/05/15 02:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You're headed for another civil war and it will be awful :makesmecry:


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Asante] * 9
    #21899516 - 07/05/15 02:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Asante said:
You're headed for another civil war and it will be awful :makesmecry:




Please drop this shit, Asante. It's extremely tasteless for you, a Dutch person living in the Netherlands who, to the best of my knowledge, has very little (if any) experience with living in America, to keep implying that a second civil war in America is somehow inevitable. We Americans continue to feel the intergenerational trauma of that catastrophic war and for all that we are continuing to hash out this "culture war" nonsense, none of us have any interest in repeating the slaughter of millions of Americans by their own fellow countrymen. You only demonstrate your own ignorance by suggesting otherwise. So kindly please knock it the fuck off and make carelessly provocative comments about your own damn country instead. I miss the time when you would make threads about the Dutch royal family having toilet seat throwing competitions. Thank you.


Edited by Sophistic Radiance (07/05/15 06:09 AM)


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21899535 - 07/05/15 02:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The signs are clear BlindSophist. You are going to have to overthrow your government at some point in the near future because it will step up its war efforts to terrorize the US citizenry. From then on it can ignite in any direction. There is so much divisive power in the US, it will implode and get worse before it gets better.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Asante]
    #21899547 - 07/05/15 02:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What signs, exactly? Before you begin, first answer me this simple question: are you going to be specific, or are you going to regurgitate American talking points about the militarization of American police that float over the pond while attempting to compensate for your total disconnection from the actual zeitgeist of American public life with sheer prolixity and bombast?


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Asante]
    #21899623 - 07/05/15 03:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The greater dutch government is the most diabolical of all the modern day imperialists. Almost every day I hear a new story about a human rights crime being perpetrated by the Dutch alone. Obviously the Dutch citizenry itself is to blame, and they are going to have to publicly hang all of their politicians within the next 42 months and then descend into barbarianism or they will never have a chance to stop oppressing the world, and are also actively and willingly helping to beat in the brains of all humanity and are culpable for it. Everyone knows and all the signs point to all current political parties of Netherlands being the equivalent to the next Third Reich. They even share much of the same blood and over 1:7 native Nederlanders are direct descendants of Nazi war criminals.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: John Nada]
    #21899626 - 07/05/15 03:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The fuck are you acting so surprised for. This is the country whose idea of Christmas somehow involves an elaborate minstrel show.



Asante himself has actively denied the offensiveness of this imagery. Think about that.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Asante] * 1
    #21899631 - 07/05/15 03:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Asante said:
The signs are clear BlindSophist. You are going to have to overthrow your government at some point in the near future because it will step up its war efforts to terrorize the US citizenry. From then on it can ignite in any direction. There is so much divisive power in the US, it will implode and get worse before it gets better.






fuck yeah... wo0t~


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Asante]
    #21899640 - 07/05/15 03:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Oh, I'm not surprised though, I've been hearing about how evil your country is my whole life. Since you yourself admit that your country is all a bunch of despicable, evil imperialists though, you should really focus less on the USA and mount your attack on your own country instead of just being 100% complacent to pure EVIL. They've been committing crimes against humanity far far longer than the US has even been a country. The fight always starts at home anyway, so get on it.

My best wishes are with you on your personal quest to blow up and hang all your local politicians for a better tomorrow. In my mind's eye I can see you fighting in the burning streets right now.

Now I understand why V For Vendetta is your favorite movie.


EDIT- Oh, weak, I thought the reply from B.S. was from Asante. I hope he doesn't support the evil shithole empire he lives in after all, because otherwise he's culpable for deeds of pure evil.


Edited by John Nada (07/05/15 04:04 AM)


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21899644 - 07/05/15 03:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Mmmm 200mg eaten 60mg intranasal.... tastes and smells like freedom! Thank you America for fucking the drug war up so bad, and thanks for having one of the worlds largest drug markets for me to access grade A ecstacy from.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21899645 - 07/05/15 04:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:




Asante himself has actively denied the offensiveness of this imagery. Think about that.





This is fucking shocking

:nonono:


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: John Nada]
    #21899651 - 07/05/15 04:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Seriously?


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21899653 - 07/05/15 04:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What?


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: John Nada]
    #21899662 - 07/05/15 04:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Are you actually shocked or is that hyperbole?


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21899684 - 07/05/15 04:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Oh, I was actually motherfucking shocked. Now that it's had time to marinate though I'm not because what can you really expect from the Dutch. I just wasn't aware it went as far as overt and flagrant racism being an actual Christmas tradition of theirs though, haha. Fucking wow. That certainly trumps a lame flag of a failed government from over 150 years ago. What is even being done about this celebrated Dutch tradition of systemic racism? We need to get the media on the phone and command the Dutch to change their ways entirely.

I just don't get why Asante isn't out revolting against his country.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: John Nada]
    #21899691 - 07/05/15 04:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: John Nada]
    #21899701 - 07/05/15 04:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

John Nada said:
Oh, I'm not surprised though, I've been hearing about how evil your country is my whole life. Since you yourself admit that your country is all a bunch of despicable, evil imperialists though, you should really focus less on the USA and mount your attack on your own country instead of just being 100% complacent to pure EVIL. They've been committing crimes against humanity far far longer than the US has even been a country. The fight always starts at home anyway, so get on it.

My best wishes are with you on your personal quest to blow up and hang all your local politicians for a better tomorrow. In my mind's eye I can see you fighting in the burning streets right now.

Now I understand why V For Vendetta is your favorite movie.


EDIT- Oh, weak, I thought the reply from B.S. was from Asante. I hope he doesn't support the evil shithole empire he lives in after all, because otherwise he's culpable for deeds of pure evil.





and isnt this truly the spirit if independence day


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21899703 - 07/05/15 04:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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BlindSophist said:
I'll tell you what's being done, white Dutch people are dismissing the legitimate complaints of minority Dutch citizens as insubstantial and immature.





this sounds all too familiar


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21899704 - 07/05/15 04:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That's fucking disgusting, man. Why in the fuck isn't Asante out revolting and inciting riots and revolution over there though? In this very thread he advocated for Americans to revolt against the US government, but he lives in a place that is openly and proudly more racist and for a much much longer history too. It just doesn't make any sense whatsoever and smacks of sheer hypocrisy and a stupefying level of irony.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: John Nada]
    #21899707 - 07/05/15 04:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That post pissed me off the first time I saw it over a year ago, it's even worse on the re-read. I love how he used a "think of the children" argument to justify a national tradition of pigeonholing black people as inferiors and slaves. That tradition was condemned by a multiracial plurality of Americans half a century ago and now here he is calling us divided. It just really fucking stinks.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21899738 - 07/05/15 05:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

"think of the children" seems to be justification for many things


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: TNK]
    #21899758 - 07/05/15 05:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

TheNatureKid said:
Quote:

luvdemboomers said:
fuck this country






You hate this country? Hmm, I guess you hate all of the benefits of living here too. You should have no problem giving your SSN up to me then. I'll be waiting for a PM.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21899776 - 07/05/15 05:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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"think of the children" seems to be justification for many things



:pedobearhide:











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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #21899804 - 07/05/15 06:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Oh wait, so according to Asante's logic then maybe some of the youth of South Carolina use the confederate flag as some bastardized celebration of their heritage, not the adults who taught them to, so we have to ultimately let the children there decide whether or not to fly the confederate flag on the lawns of government buildings. KID VOTE. Fuck yes! Nickelodeon can do the press coverage. The president will get slimed on stage. That's gonna be sweet like 1993 was.

Really though, he raises a good point, I guess, because you do gotta think about them childrens. I mean, hell the childrens is the whole future of the world. That's why we gotta stop these uppity gays from marrying and carrying on, right? I heard someone say we gotta stop them dirty gays from having marriage rights, and I was saying how I really I don't give a shit about it, but then they were like "Yeah, but what about the children?", and then I was like "Ohhhhh, shit. I guess you have a point with that there". I guess ultimately we have to have a kid-vote on gay rights too though.

COME ON, JIMMY! GO JIMMY GO! VOTE LIKE YOURN PARENTS TAUGHT YA.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: John Nada]
    #21899820 - 07/05/15 06:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Since children can't vote I have to assume it isn't really the children we're thinking of.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: D.M.T]
    #21899836 - 07/05/15 06:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well in the Netherlands they are going to install a government run entirely by children just as soon as Asante gets out of his armchair and starts revolting against the imperialist demagogues that are his government. Baby steps, brother.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21899900 - 07/05/15 07:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

BlindSophist said:
I'll tell you what's being done, white Dutch people are dismissing the legitimate complaints of minority Dutch citizens as insubstantial and immature.




I think it's funny people get offended when their ingrained cultural traditions are attacked.
To be fair I find someone very rude to let an old man do all the work, hence these "chimneysweepers" are not offensive to me.

Then my classfriends (uhh... 'minorities' wtf is that for disgusting word >_>) had to point out to me it's kinda stereotypical and I can see where it comes from. As long as this gets replaced with something in tune for all... Ahahahah who am I kidding Good luck, we have 190 nationalities living here, how are we not going to offend all of them?

So I proposed we make them green :happyweed:



Yes, it's an event where we give children presents :lol: ... so yeah...

I hope these are growing pains to a more understanding world but sometimes I doubt it.


Edited by Beanhead (07/05/15 07:07 AM)


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21899910 - 07/05/15 07:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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BlindSophist said:
That post pissed me off the first time I saw it over a year ago, it's even worse on the re-read. I love how he used a "think of the children" argument to justify a national tradition of pigeonholing black people as inferiors and slaves. That tradition was condemned by a multiracial plurality of Americans half a century ago and now here he is calling us divided. It just really fucking stinks.




Hes a narrow minded bigot who has recently gotten much worse.  Don't worry about him, he's meaningless.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: DieCommie]
    #21899921 - 07/05/15 07:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I will be sad to see negro titties (negerinnetetten) go though

I thought errybody luv titties :crankey:

Oh that would be funny

I HOPE WE JUST CALL THEM TITTIES THEN

then I can go to the bakery and be like

TETTEN ALSTUBLIEFT

:rofl2:


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: DieCommie]
    #21899936 - 07/05/15 07:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

This thread would make any redblooded American patriot proud.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Asante] * 1
    #21900009 - 07/05/15 08:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Asante said:
You're headed for another civil war and it will be awful :makesmecry:




I'm a newbie under this handle but I have been around for many years, and you usually make very well informed posts.

However, that is one of the most ridiculously inaccurate things I have ever seen you write. A civil war is not even in the remotest realm of possibility, and you should find new sources for news if you think otherwise. You should try visiting America sometime, things aren't quite as bad as they make it sound on Fox news...


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
    #21900025 - 07/05/15 08:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Welcome
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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: vinsue]
    #21900042 - 07/05/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Haha, I don't want to say. Clean slate and all...:lol:

I really just forgot my password, though...:mad2:

I mean...I guess if your only source of knowledge on the US is the stuff you read on the internet, I CAN understand why you would think a civil war is imminent. Really the media just needs a story to feed you, though. In reality, nothing is happening... 99.99999% of people are just going about their day to day lives, unaffected. People are way to apathetic to start a civil war...


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Asante]
    #21900064 - 07/05/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The signs are clear BlindSophist. You are going to have to overthrow your government at some point in the near future because it will step up its war efforts to terrorize the US citizenry. From then on it can ignite in any direction. There is so much divisive power in the US, it will implode and get worse before it gets better.



This is just yet another stunning example of your utter ignorance about America.  For the life of me I do not understand why you keep opining on things that you have absolutely no knowledge of.  What signs?  Our government is less oppressive than your taxed to death continent.  Your knowledge comes from a hyperventilating media that makes a living sensationalizing the bad and totally ignores the good.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Asante]
    #21900078 - 07/05/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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This thread would make any redblooded American patriot proud.



I'll tell you what.  I don't want to live anywhere else.  Name a better country with more freedom.  I pretty much do what I want and am quite successful.  Would that have happened on your continent?  I doubt it


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21900204 - 07/05/15 09:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I hope you're right Zappa, and others. I hope the paradigm shift can come about without bloodshed. But I'm concerned that it won't.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Asante]
    #21900227 - 07/05/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I would be more concerned about your continent than mine if I were you.


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    #21900234 - 07/05/15 09:37 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Asante, bring back that near Jihadic episode back from a few days ago.


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    #21900282 - 07/05/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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    #21900291 - 07/05/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

mmm maybe.




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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21900489 - 07/05/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

that is some serious fanfare.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21900559 - 07/05/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I would be more concerned about your continent than mine if I were you.




pls don't nuke us
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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: akira_akuma]
    #21900571 - 07/05/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Anyone who lives in the USA who thinks it is fucked up needs to visit a few other countries and compare, because there are some really nitty-gritty, class F, fucked up shitholes in the world.  The problem in the US is the fucking attitude. 

The people float turds into office like Obama and Bush then bitch about how fucked up things are.  Well what the fuck is expected when you have one president who runs up the credit card, then the people vote in another just because his skin has different pigamentation and that fucking turkey takes a wrecking ball to what's left of things.

THen people start to bitch and moan about him and a new election cycle comes around and what are the politicians talking about?  Minorities, racial division, religious freedoms, gay rights, the war on women blah blah blah. 

But who is standing up and talking about the real dangers to the US?  A fucking shabby economy that is overburdened by government, people that are being taxed to death, returning control to the PEOPLE, etc.  It's all rhetoric.

Who is actually having  sensible conversation about 'What can we do to make jobs more available, what can we do to make things better without doing the same shit we've been doing for the last 50 years.  All the polys talk about is doing the same shit we've been doing or the last 50 years and got us into this mess in the first place, and the morons that vote cheer them on.

Anyone who actually wants to discuss what is really the issues with america immediately gets attack and raked over the coals by the establishment government, the media, and the moron low-info's. 

And national defense.  Yes, it is an issue.  What I'm talking about isn't supporting a bloated, oversized military that is merely an excuse to keep Big Defense Industry riding the gravy train, what I am talking about is having a government with enough balls to actually FUCK SOMEONE UP if there is an issue.  If it is important enough to send troops in, then it is important enough to use whatever means is at our disposal to end the conflict, INCLUDING NUCLEAR WEAPONS or else we shouldn't be involved.  Boy then that looks like we wouldnt be in any wars, does it?

I am afraid Asante makes a very good point, albeit from the wrong conclusions.  We are going to have to do something.  THe US NEEDS A LEADER--Not a fucking actor, a 'historic first woman' not a 'hispanic' not a 'socialist'  A LEADER.

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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: starfire_xes]
    #21900600 - 07/05/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Using nuclear weapons, very sensible of you.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Beanhead]
    #21900624 - 07/05/15 11:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Using nuclear weapons, very sensible of you.




If it is that serious that we need to go to war, than it is sensible or we shouldn't be in a war.  Which is my point: if we used that criteria we would never be in a war.


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    #21900659 - 07/05/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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But who is standing up and talking about the real dangers to the US?  A fucking shabby economy that is overburdened by government, people that are being taxed to death, returning control to the PEOPLE, etc.  It's all rhetoric.




well, there ya go, that's the problem. don't act like the US can't be a shithole because it can be for various reasons. don't act like you haven't figured that out.

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THe US NEEDS A LEADER--Not a fucking actor, a 'historic first woman' not a 'hispanic' not a 'socialist'  A LEADER.




why didn't you lead anything?

who's in charge of you?


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    #21900661 - 07/05/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So blast rockets untill everythings dead, there really is no use for nukes. *cringe*
Well other then fucking shit up so hard for everything, including America itself.
Few more nukes and say goodbye living conditions :lol:


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Beanhead]
    #21900675 - 07/05/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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So blast rockets untill everythings dead, there really is no use for nukes. *cringe*
Well other then fucking shit up so hard for everything, including America itself.
Few more nukes and say goodbye living conditions :lol:





we've only used nukes twice, and they saved millions of lives.

yes, all death is bad, but the 225,000 that died in Nagasaki & Hiroshima pales in comparison to the millions of more casualties had the war had went on


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Adolin]
    #21900683 - 07/05/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Uh... and this changes the effect how?

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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Beanhead]
    #21900688 - 07/05/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

by, uh, saving several million of lives?

i kow its a cold thought, but its also a fact. Japan was ready to fight tooth and nail, till the end. that is until the bombs fell


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    #21900695 - 07/05/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

it had to take two because even the outcry of the public wasn't enough.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21900716 - 07/05/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The fuck are you acting so surprised for. This is the country whose idea of Christmas somehow involves an elaborate minstrel show.



Asante himself has actively denied the offensiveness of this imagery. Think about that.





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    #21900721 - 07/05/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Good thing they didn't know we didn't have any more


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    #21900737 - 07/05/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

well, then we could just build a new one eventually and stake our ultimate revenge for their ultimatum to eventually come and attack us, given our lack of Ecshaton-sustaining bombs.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Adolin]
    #21900879 - 07/05/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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by, uh, saving several million of lives?

i kow its a cold thought, but its also a fact. Japan was ready to fight tooth and nail, till the end. that is until the bombs fell




You still don't get it.

No surprise I guess.

A cold fact would be that living conditions for human life (or any) will be non-existant due to radioactivity.

Fire away, fuck yourselves over :rofl2:


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    #21900893 - 07/05/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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by, uh, saving several million of lives?

i kow its a cold thought, but its also a fact. Japan was ready to fight tooth and nail, till the end. that is until the bombs fell




You still don't get it.

No surprise I guess.





what exactly don't i get? you keep replying with these short, vague, and condescending answers that dont actually add anything, you just keep saying i'm wrong, without explaing why

are you saying that it would have been more beneficial to let the war go on and on, in order to reduce world population even further?


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Adolin]
    #21900903 - 07/05/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No I just hate repeating myself.

You can perceive that how you like.


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A cold fact would be that living conditions for human life (or any) will be non-existant due to radioactivity.

Fire away, fuck yourselves over :rofl2:





if that is true, why are Hiroshima and Nagasaki still bustling citys, with a way higher population than before the bomb?

neither of the bomb sites are radioactive any more, they are perfectly safe places to live


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No I just hate repeating myself.

You can perceive that how you like.





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    #21900919 - 07/05/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

:strokebeard: Nice.



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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21900932 - 07/05/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I am half Dutch, first generation on my mother's side and I feel intimately connected with my Dutch heritage. That Zwarte Piet shit does not fly in America and there is a good reason for that. It shows that the supposedly ultra tolerant Dutch are fronting just a little bit. my mom agrees with me on this. We would celebrate Sinterklaas as a family when I was little and she would always cringe when Zwarte Piet showed up. I came by my views honestly.


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    #21900946 - 07/05/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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    #21900999 - 07/05/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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the supposedly ultra tolerant Dutch




That ended when the 90s began. Holland has been declining every single year since.

I'm a disgruntled dutchman. We had it so good and the politicians and Big Money destroyed that. Its as beautiful a country as its ever been, the fields, forests and rivers, but the social climate is all fucked.

If I should get my finances fixed or win the lottery I probably will live abroad for most of the year, like my father and brother. Its no longer the country I loved so much, the people have become petty bitches.

Think you can troll me by talking smack about my country? I'm apatriotic. Maybe the future will be good but the present has been shit here for 25 years. Time for a Yang cause Holland is Yin as fuck.


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    #21901052 - 07/05/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Someone had to do it.





To be clear, I am not anti-american. I am critical of some things American but not America itself. To call me antiamerican is to call someone who condemns the treatment by Israel of the Palestinians, Antisemitic.

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God bless our homeland. Fucking a the 4th is my favorite holiday.


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    #21901133 - 07/05/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Someone had to do it.





To be clear, I am not anti-american. I am critical of some things American but not America itself. To call me antiamerican is to call someone who condemns the treatment by Israel of the Palestinians, Antisemitic.

No, its more nuanced than that.




Your views can be as nuanced as you please, it won't make it right for you to speak of a new civil war in America. You know that ancestral trauma is a real thing, so you should accept that the civil war is not a part of yours and so you cannot fathom the reactions of Americans to such an obscene notion as reiterating that trauma. I honestly find this line of talk extremely offensive to Americans and I would really like it if you just dropped it and couched your apocalyptic visions a bit closer to home.


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Someone had to do it.





To be clear, I am not anti-american. I am critical of some things American but not America itself. To call me antiamerican is to call someone who condemns the treatment by Israel of the Palestinians, Antisemitic.

No, its more nuanced than that.




Your views can be as nuanced as you please, it won't make it right for you to speak of a new civil war in America. You know that ancestral trauma is a real thing, so you should accept that the civil war is not a part of yours and so you cannot fathom the reactions of Americans to such an obscene notion as reiterating that trauma. I honestly find this line of talk extremely offensive to Americans and I would really like it if you just dropped it and couched your apocalyptic visions a bit closer to home.



I don't even know who the fuck he thinks is going to be fighting.  Does he expect a race war?  Well that will settle the race problem.  His country is being invaded by Muslim lunatic fascists and I suspect that he objects to the people who object to that.


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    #21901297 - 07/05/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'll tell you what's being done, white Dutch people are dismissing the legitimate complaints of minority Dutch citizens as insubstantial and immature.




I think it's funny people get offended when their ingrained cultural traditions are attacked.





like this?




or like this?



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To be fair I find someone very rude to let an old man do all the work, hence these "chimneysweepers" are not offensive to me.





so you're saying they're do nothing while the old white man works. that's racist


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The fuck are you acting so surprised for. This is the country whose idea of Christmas somehow involves an elaborate minstrel show.



Asante himself has actively denied the offensiveness of this imagery. Think about that.





Leave Zwarte Pete out of this.  That's Dutch heritage.




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    #21901364 - 07/05/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What I said in that thread was:

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Zwarte Piet..

Zwarte Piet unquestionably represents an African, in a stereotypical manner. Any arguments that he doesnt is just disingenious.

I believe there should be a serious national debate between the Ayes and the Nays whether they want to continue the tradition as it is, or perhaps amend it. Extra care should be taken in hearing the opinion of the children, because its THEIR celebration, grownups just facilitate.

Zwarte Piet in the current celebration has a positive role, he is beloved now where he used to be feared as a kinderschrik in the old way of celebration. The old way was wrong, the new way, not inherently so.

Its grossly stereotypical but not inherently racist I think. I'm in favor of upholding the tradition and using it as a platform to educate on the evils of racism, unless opposition is too compelling.




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Added:

Zwarte Piet in the current celebration has a positive role, he is beloved now where he used to be feared as a kinderschrik in the old way of celebration. The old way was wrong, the new way, not inherently so.

It still teaches racially stereotypical lessons though, so a debate and decision is necessary.

I wish people were as sophisticated as to have a serious debate, its mostly one side screaming their indignation about disrupting a tradition with no regard to racioal sensitivities and the other side screaming their indignation regarding racial sensitivities without regard to interruption of a tradition. 

Both sides arer important.  It can be something better for all, something that heals instead of divides.




I have come around from that moderate point of view and now I actively campaign against Zwarte Piet online and off in the appropriate season.

I urge people on either side of the divide to choose for a changed celebration that deracializes the situation.

The children wouldnt mind non racist Zwarte Piet, in fact I'm sure they'd wouldnt want him to be a black charicature if they knew the consequences, its the adult white Dutch population which sucks extremely hard regarding this topic, meeting it with aggression, dishonesty and ignorance.


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    #21901394 - 07/05/15 02:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I liked the idea of making them green


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21901396 - 07/05/15 02:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Then they wouldn't be Zwarte


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21901400 - 07/05/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yo Pris you do realize i'm from lowlands myself.

so i'm laughing at Belgians/Dutch that can't accept the reality that some are offended by this.

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Quote:

Beanhead said:
Quote:

BlindSophist said:
I'll tell you what's being done, white Dutch people are dismissing the legitimate complaints of minority Dutch citizens as insubstantial and immature.




I think it's funny people get offended when their ingrained cultural traditions are attacked.




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To be fair I find someone very rude to let an old man do all the work, hence these "chimneysweepers" are not offensive to me.





so you're saying they're do nothing while the old white man works. that's racist




Like this ?


Wow cool trolling pris :rolleyes:

I'm saying they're working hard and are kind companions for making an old fragile 80+ man not do all the work.

I'm saying they do the work.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #21901424 - 07/05/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

how about they let em be whatever color they want to be?


what ever happened to agreeing to disagree? its not like anyone is getting hurt. its fucking face paint.


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    #21901437 - 07/05/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

America sucks sometimes but I'd still rather be here than surrounded by a bunch of self absorbed dutch..


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    #21901446 - 07/05/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

We don't shoot at the black people though.
O.o


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Asante]
    #21901447 - 07/05/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I have come around from that moderate point of view and now I actively campaign against Zwarte Piet online and off in the appropriate season.




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Bit like you then.


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Yo Pris you do realize i'm from lowlands myself.

so i'm laughing at Belgians/Dutch that can't accept the reality that some are offended by this.

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Quote:

Beanhead said:
Quote:

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I'll tell you what's being done, white Dutch people are dismissing the legitimate complaints of minority Dutch citizens as insubstantial and immature.




I think it's funny people get offended when their ingrained cultural traditions are attacked.




Quote:


To be fair I find someone very rude to let an old man do all the work, hence these "chimneysweepers" are not offensive to me.





so you're saying they're do nothing while the old white man works. that's racist




Like this ?


Wow cool trolling pris :rolleyes:

I'm saying they're working hard and are kind companions for making an old fragile 80+ man not do all the work.

I'm saying they do the work.






so black pete is a slave and you call that kindness because the old white man
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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Beanhead]
    #21901483 - 07/05/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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We don't shoot at the black people though.
O.o



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    #21901484 - 07/05/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Bit like you then.




nope. I dont pretend to be mounting an online protest but only when the season is appropriate


"it's the wrng time of year to fight against racism and oppression, my hair is a mess"


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Adolin] * 1
    #21901489 - 07/05/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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how about they let em be whatever color they want to be?


what ever happened to agreeing to disagree? its not like anyone is getting hurt. its fucking face paint.





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    #21901491 - 07/05/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

"so black pete is a slave and you call that kindness because the old white man
has provided him a 'job', housing and free healthcare"

:strokebeard:

I thought they wanted to help him.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21901502 - 07/05/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

again, what ever happened to agreeing to disagree?


everyone is so fucking touchy now. every little thing can be a 'sense offense' to someone


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    #21901505 - 07/05/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The situation in Holland is such that we give it a rest until the season begins, then we protest. Doing it otherwise would only increase aggression and not serve the cause.

Yes its that bad.


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The Dutch are too touchy feely. I'm afraid that's what's becoming of America. :sad:


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    #21901512 - 07/05/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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"so black pete is a slave and you call that kindness because the old white man
has provided him a 'job', housing and free healthcare"

:strokebeard:

I thought they wanted to help him.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm





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    #21901518 - 07/05/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Stella is about as much a Belgian beer as Budweiser. Belgium has the best beer on Earth. It isn't Stella.


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    #21901525 - 07/05/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The situation in Holland is such that we give it a rest until the season begins, then we protest. Doing it otherwise would only increase aggression and not serve the cause.

Yes its that bad.





sounds very ambivalent, it's fine to be racist for 11 months of the year but in
the 12th month there needs to be a protest... and the japanse called the
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Stella is about as much a Belgian beer as Budweiser. Belgium has the best beer on Earth. It isn't Stella.





I see, so you got my point


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    #21901528 - 07/05/15 03:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

Beanhead said:
"so black pete is a slave and you call that kindness because the old white man
has provided him a 'job', housing and free healthcare"

:strokebeard:

I thought they wanted to help him.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm





I want to help all the people of color, I wish to send them to a place where they
can be afforded jobs, housing, free health care and a modest stipend that equates
to a living wage. I hear there's plenty of land in holland and belgium. imagine
the sales boost for belgian beers when there's finally a local market for Stella




:lol: Yeah come on over, we just need six more nationalities and we have everyone of the world living here.:heart:

Pfft support local breweries / monk breweries

Stella is for nubs!


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Adolin] * 1
    #21901533 - 07/05/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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again, what ever happened to agreeing to disagree?


everyone is so fucking touchy now. every little thing can be a 'sense offense' to someone





I dont agree to disagree, in fact I'm very disagreeable to that notion because
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    #21901544 - 07/05/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Beanhead said:
"so black pete is a slave and you call that kindness because the old white man
has provided him a 'job', housing and free healthcare"

:strokebeard:

I thought they wanted to help him.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm





I want to help all the people of color, I wish to send them to a place where they
can be afforded jobs, housing, free health care and a modest stipend that equates
to a living wage. I hear there's plenty of land in holland and belgium. imagine
the sales boost for belgian beers when there's finally a local market for Stella




:lol: Yeah come on over, we just need six more nationalities and we have everyone of the world living here.:heart:




we have illegal aliens from more nations than you have in your country legally...

light weights

Quote:

Pfft support local breweries / monk breweries

Stella is for nubs!




you're a fucking flemmy arent you

I'm comparing Stella to this



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    #21901584 - 07/05/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

Asante said:
The situation in Holland is such that we give it a rest until the season begins, then we protest. Doing it otherwise would only increase aggression and not serve the cause.

Yes its that bad.





sounds very ambivalent, it's fine to be racist for 11 months of the year but in
the 12th month there needs to be a protest... and the japanse called the
americans lazy





Pragmatism is important. Its a seasonal thing so we bring it up in the season when its on everybodies minds. I campaign mostly with local black people and they feel thats the right approach.


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    #21901595 - 07/05/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Shit must not be so bad for a black Dutchman if they can pick and choose when to campaign. Here the season is whenever a black guy commits suicide by cop, which is pretty often.


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    #21901601 - 07/05/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Or murder by other Negro, for that matter.


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Shit must not be so bad for a black Dutchman if they can pick and choose when to campaign. Here the season is whenever a black guy commits suicide by cop, which is pretty often.





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    #21901631 - 07/05/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

While of course I totally agree that a second civil war won't happen any time soon (if ever), a lot of the larger states still have a vague desire to be their own country. If there was a way to peacefully dissolve the union, I think Texas and California would seriously consider it, but it'd probably still get rejected.

Still, there is a certain pride and feeling of independence from the federal government in the large states.






Having said that, here's an interesting piece of American art depicting the civil war:

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I think Texas and California would seriously consider it, but it'd probably still get rejected.



Hope not. Californians are the only people who really want California to be a part of the US.


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Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Asante said:
The situation in Holland is such that we give it a rest until the season begins, then we protest. Doing it otherwise would only increase aggression and not serve the cause.

Yes its that bad.





sounds very ambivalent, it's fine to be racist for 11 months of the year but in
the 12th month there needs to be a protest... and the japanse called the
americans lazy





Pragmatism is important. Its a seasonal thing so we bring it up in the season when its on everybodies minds. I campaign mostly with local black people and they feel thats the right approach.




so you intend to steep in the rich cultural traditions of netherlander racism,
slavery and oppression, because you know, the few black people being the ethnic
minority couldnt possibly feel oppressed by rich cultural traditions from
january to november, terrified to speak out lest they end up back in chains

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    #21901660 - 07/05/15 03:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Shit must not be so bad for a black Dutchman if they can pick and choose when to campaign.





pigeonholing them to one month a year that they're allowed to object to the racism

sounds like true freedom, maybe the dutch equivalent of black history month

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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Asante]
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Quote:

D.M.T said:
Shit must not be so bad for a black Dutchman if they can pick and choose when to campaign. Here the season is whenever a black guy commits suicide by cop, which is pretty often.





Thats because your police force and ghetto cultures are out of control.



The police force is trying to stop  the murders and is not out of control.  You once again expose your ignorance.  Almost everybody the police shoot deserves it including that asshole in Ferguson.  They've done a pretty good job of slowing the murder rate down from the days of yore but the vast majority of Negro killings are done by other Negroes. The rate is much higher than for other races.  I believe I once read that if we were all Caucasian we would have the murder rate of Belgium.


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    #21901671 - 07/05/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You're just jerking my chain here.

I'm of mixed heritage so both sides are me. As I appear mostly white I'm not going to be "the white guy who tells them what to do", the whole point is to get rid of that situation.


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While of course I totally agree that a second civil war won't happen any time soon (if ever), a lot of the larger states still have a vague desire to be their own country. If there was a way to peacefully dissolve the union, I think Texas and California would seriously consider it, but it'd probably still get rejected.

Still, there is a certain pride and feeling of independence from the federal government in the large states.






Having said that, here's an interesting piece of American art depicting the civil war:

In his hand is a book with alpha on one side and omega on the other. The implication being that civil war will be the beginning and civil war will be the end.



That is John Brown.  I'm pretty sure he was gunned down before the Civil War


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While of course I totally agree that a second civil war won't happen any time soon (if ever), a lot of the larger states still have a vague desire to be their own country. If there was a way to peacefully dissolve the union, I think Texas and California would seriously consider it, but it'd probably still get rejected.

Still, there is a certain pride and feeling of independence from the federal government in the large states.






Having said that, here's an interesting piece of American art depicting the civil war:

In his hand is a book with alpha on one side and omega on the other. The implication being that civil war will be the beginning and civil war will be the end.




Kansas used that as their first album cover :thumbup:



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zappaisgod said:
Quote:

Asante said:
Quote:

D.M.T said:
Shit must not be so bad for a black Dutchman if they can pick and choose when to campaign. Here the season is whenever a black guy commits suicide by cop, which is pretty often.





Thats because your police force and ghetto cultures are out of control.



The police force is trying to stop  the murders and is not out of control.  You once again expose your ignorance.  Almost everybody the police shoot deserves it including that asshole in Ferguson.  They've done a pretty good job of slowing the murder rate down from the days of yore but the vast majority of Negro killings are done by other Negroes. The rate is much higher than for other races.  I believe I once read that if we were all Caucasian we would have the murder rate of Belgium.



By my own calculations, Cincinnati's murder rate would be less than Belgium's on good years and as high as Plano, Texas on bad years if there were no blacks.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Asante] * 2
    #21901695 - 07/05/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You're just jerking my chain here.

I'm of mixed heritage so both sides are me. As I appear mostly white I'm not going to be "the white guy who tells them what to do", the whole point is to get rid of that situation.



You're just a white guy who had his DNA tested. We're all mixed heritage.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Asante]
    #21901700 - 07/05/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Asante said:
You're just jerking my chain here.

I'm of mixed heritage so both sides are me. As I appear mostly white I'm not going to be "the white guy who tells them what to do", the whole point is to get rid of that situation.





we're all of mixed heritage here, remember, mankind came from africa so we all
share that same african DNA you hold, how about instead of being the 'white guy
that tells them what to do' since that seems to be the 11 months of the year that
you simply dont care about the rights of blacks, why not be the white guy that
leads the charge, that shows them that it's ok to stand up for themselves, dont
goad them into doing it, do it for them


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: D.M.T]
    #21901706 - 07/05/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think the Belgians are as progressive as the Dutch i'm afraid.

but I only visited the Dutch rallies. Fuck Belgium :shrug:


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    #21901710 - 07/05/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Asante said:
You're just jerking my chain here.

I'm of mixed heritage so both sides are me. As I appear mostly white I'm not going to be "the white guy who tells them what to do", the whole point is to get rid of that situation.





we're all of mixed heritage here, remember, mankind came from africa so we all
share that same african DNA you hold, how about instead of being the 'white guy
that tells them what to do' since that seems to be the 11 months of the year that
you simply dont care about the rights of blacks, why not be the white guy that
leads the charge, that shows them that it's ok to stand up for themselves, dont
goad them into doing it, do it for them




The people I know were like muh I don't care but they grew up here.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Beanhead]
    #21901713 - 07/05/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't think the Belgians are as progressive as the Dutch i'm afraid.

but I only visited the Dutch rallies. Fuck Belgium :shrug:





burn belgium to the ground, make all people equal


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Beanhead]
    #21901717 - 07/05/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Beanhead said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Asante said:
You're just jerking my chain here.

I'm of mixed heritage so both sides are me. As I appear mostly white I'm not going to be "the white guy who tells them what to do", the whole point is to get rid of that situation.





we're all of mixed heritage here, remember, mankind came from africa so we all
share that same african DNA you hold, how about instead of being the 'white guy
that tells them what to do' since that seems to be the 11 months of the year that
you simply dont care about the rights of blacks, why not be the white guy that
leads the charge, that shows them that it's ok to stand up for themselves, dont
goad them into doing it, do it for them




The people I know were like muh I don't care but they grew up here.





so it's just like the netherlands


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #21901753 - 07/05/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeep lets become Great-Netherlands again 21 provinces STRONK

Nah Belgium is dumb as hell and racist parties get the most votes :thumbdown::thumbdown: :kingcrankey:

Morrocans, Turks, an Algerian, someone from Tunesia and the few people on the streets I asked about it.

Then again I know some Moroccans who would not dress in their native clothing or their fathers (first generation) would tell them not to do it because it wouldn't conform.

Life is fucking sad


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: Beanhead]
    #21901793 - 07/05/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Beanhead said:
Yeep lets become Great-Netherlands again 21 provinces STRONK





then I learned... Belgium = Netherlander Tentsletje

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Nah Belgium is dumb as hell and racist parties get the most votes :thumbdown::thumbdown: :kingcrankey:




so just like the Netherlands "Oh hey, there is racism everywhere but we dont care
because we outnumber the minorities so they can just suck it the fuck up and then
we'll blame it on the  politicians and racists"


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    #21901823 - 07/05/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

LOL
LOLOLOLOLOL
Brb i'm calling some Dutch friends, they got splaining to do.

I try, Pris, I try :\.


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    #21902101 - 07/05/15 05:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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That is John Brown.  I'm pretty sure he was gunned down before the Civil War



Yeah, but the painting itself is supposed to be about the civil war (note the background) using him as a kind of symbol for it for one reason or another.


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Re: Proud to be an American, [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21903929 - 07/06/15 03:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The police force is trying to stop  the murders and is not out of control.  You once again expose your ignorance.  Almost everybody the police shoot deserves it including that asshole in Ferguson.  They've done a pretty good job of slowing the murder rate down from the days of yore but the vast majority of Negro killings are done by other Negroes. The rate is much higher than for other races.  I believe I once read that if we were all Caucasian we would have the murder rate of Belgium.





Haha, you're exactly as much of a hysterical shill parrot as Asante is.


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    #21903936 - 07/06/15 03:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What do you know about tentsletjes :crankey:


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