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Re: Does anyone else think that magic mushrooms are magical? [Re: Deviate]
#21910872 - 07/07/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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lessismore said:
Maybe it's society that is crazy ?

Ego-death is when the person thinks they are their ego for their whole life, they think the ego is the self. Then something changes and they lose that identity they thought they were and start seeing things in a new way. It's probably also where the duality or kundalini could begin.
Nothing stays the same. Everything is in a constant state of change. We think we are seperate from this, but that is our ignorance and denial. We're all apart of one big fractal made up of energy and vibration. "Keep going... spiral out", as Maynard said
You can see that the negative outweighs the positive in our culture and society or our species, Which is not a positive place to grow into, and a way to keep your consciousness low. But when you become aware of it all, you can raise that positive vibration as well. It is all part of the real experience and getting out the ego or unconscious. Don't be scared of where your mind can go. Let go of your grounding of ego.
The psychedelic experience seems to be the closest connection we have to the source of consciousness. The infinite. "God"
This might be where natures consciousness lives and let's us see and find our way back to symbiotic relationship with nature and our true purpose.
The bee "just knows" its purpose, the spider knows to make its web. But what do we know? It's all because of that loss of connection to source, which directs us in the direction we are suppose to be going. Everything comes back to that disconnection. Re-connect and you will remove the clutter from your mind.
I'll leave you with this inspiring clip from Paul Stamets and the DVD that comes out this year. 
"We are the great danger. Psyche is the great danger. How important is to know something about it, but we know nothing about it.”
― C.G. Jung
Edited by Signeg (07/07/15 07:48 PM)
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Re: Does anyone else think that magic mushrooms are magical? [Re: Signeg]
#21912019 - 07/07/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think that mushrooms are definitely magic. Plants are constantly communicating through chemical messages with each other so why is it impossible that they try to communicate with us the only way they know how? Through chemicals. Also how is it that they have synthesized a molecule so close to our neurotransmitters? To me this proves that the plants or the earth itself understands the mammals brain. Another thing is that mycelium is the internet of plants, it is constantly exchanging information through out the plant kingdom much like our brains. Article here http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20141111-plants-have-a-hidden-internet Mushrooms also create a hyper connected brain so if you think about it this makes our brain act like the mycelium. Article here http://www.livescience.com/48502-magic-mushrooms-change-brain-networks.html What if the Earth is a living organism? Its a host for life much like our own bodies so who'd to say that Earth isn't alive. If thats the case whose to say that Earth isn't producing psychedelic chemicals to regulate the environment? We do that to regulate our bodies with medicines and what not. Perhaps the mushrooms are a tool to conform us to the planet and the ways of the universe. Maybe not but they're certainly magic.
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Re: Does anyone else think that magic mushrooms are magical? [Re: LiquidVisions]
#21914608 - 07/08/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you want to make creation myths then check this out:
someone made psychedelics to unlock our minds, and programmed them with a program to show us the program is often the same for many people it seems do they just show us ourselves? , or did someone program them and hope for us to find them? or was the human programmed? (dna is programmed and psychedelics unlock dna memories?)
the universe code allows for us to unlock each other's minds via psychedelics, to change some lives it's another way to experience itself, to change polarity of people
so should I play god and give psychedelics to everyone I meet? you think that's part of the program? - to allow us to change people and reality
I mean, the universe wants to experience itself in as many ways as it can usually by changing people with psychedelics you create diversity in the universe
or you may even make the universe collapse into a singularity, if psychedelics 'remove diversity' if psychedelics make us all one, hippies or whatever
If psychedelics remove our ego identity, then we become a singularity, humankind gets destroyed by psychedelics
bad motives behind psychedelics, or good motives? designed or not designed?
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Re: Does anyone else think that magic mushrooms are magical? [Re: lessismore]
#21914613 - 07/08/15 11:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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A real obvious question that Psychedelics would get into my mind would be, is the ego part of humanity, or is it a virus?
who is responsible for the ego if it's a virus?
what is Human?
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Re: Does anyone else think that magic mushrooms are magical? [Re: lessismore]
#21914630 - 07/08/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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apparently human is to be controlled by thoughts,emotions,desires
who created this prison?
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Re: Does anyone else think that magic mushrooms are magical? [Re: LiquidVisions]
#21915227 - 07/08/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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LiquidVisions said: What if the Earth is a living organism? Its a host for life much like our own bodies so who'd to say that Earth isn't alive. If thats the case whose to say that Earth isn't producing psychedelic chemicals to regulate the environment? We do that to regulate our bodies with medicines and what not. Perhaps the mushrooms are a tool to conform us to the planet and the ways of the universe. Maybe not but they're certainly magic.
The earth is alive, the earth is producing psychedelic chemicals to regulate the environment, but I disagree with you in the method of regulation. Your view is very egocentric and puts human beings at the centre, the earth puts drugs here to help us? its not all about us, we are not the centre, we are a part of it all. A drug produced in a plant to discourage predators from consuming it, hence regulate the environment, is more valid in my mind than regulation through manipulation of homo sapiens psyche. Psychedelic plants have been around long before our species, what was there purpose back then? To change a ladybugs mind?
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Re: Does anyone else think that magic mushrooms are magical? [Re: lessismore]
#21915240 - 07/08/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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lessismore said: apparently human is to be controlled by thoughts,emotions,desires
who created this prison?
Ahhh evolution..? Simple. Has been absolutely necessary, every part of it, to survive and get your jizz in a attractive young lass.
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Re: Does anyone else think that magic mushrooms are magical? [Re: satch1234]
#21916102 - 07/08/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Edited by Signeg (07/08/15 06:06 PM)
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Re: Does anyone else think that magic mushrooms are magical? [Re: Universe]
#21916117 - 07/08/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Universe said: I think there's something magical about psychedelics in general. Actually, a better term would be "fascinating". Or Mind blowing. I'm sure there's a perfect term but I can't think of it.
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Re: Does anyone else think that magic mushrooms are magical? [Re: trvptamine]
#21916124 - 07/08/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Edited by Signeg (07/08/15 05:47 PM)
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Re: Does anyone else think that magic mushrooms are magical? [Re: satch1234]
#21916762 - 07/08/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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satch1234 said:
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lessismore said: apparently human is to be controlled by thoughts,emotions,desires
who created this prison?
Ahhh evolution..? Simple. Has been absolutely necessary, every part of it, to survive and get your jizz in a attractive young lass.
That depends ;-)
There is spiritual evolution too if you believe in spirituality
What is right, it's the whole science vs religion debate
Maybe both are a bit right? Maybe even none of them are right, and we are in a illusionary world we cannot know anything about (if everything is an illusion) ? - then we got tricked
It's safe to say you gamble best by not claiming you know, than if you claim you know But it's also safe to have beliefs as long as you know they're beliefs :-)
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Re: Does anyone else think that magic mushrooms are magical? [Re: satch1234]
#21917293 - 07/08/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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LiquidVisions said: What if the Earth is a living organism? Its a host for life much like our own bodies so who'd to say that Earth isn't alive. If thats the case whose to say that Earth isn't producing psychedelic chemicals to regulate the environment? We do that to regulate our bodies with medicines and what not. Perhaps the mushrooms are a tool to conform us to the planet and the ways of the universe. Maybe not but they're certainly magic.
The earth is alive, the earth is producing psychedelic chemicals to regulate the environment, but I disagree with you in the method of regulation. Your view is very egocentric and puts human beings at the centre, the earth puts drugs here to help us? its not all about us, we are not the centre, we are a part of it all. A drug produced in a plant to discourage predators from consuming it, hence regulate the environment, is more valid in my mind than regulation through manipulation of homo sapiens psyche. Psychedelic plants have been around long before our species, what was there purpose back then? To change a ladybugs mind?
I don't mean the human species in general I mean all mammals. I do not think that psychedelic drugs are simply a defense mechanism. I mean all animals find psychedelics enjoyable. Why not produce a poison. Caffeine and nicotine kill bugs and so does morphine I believe. Also if in animal eats an opiate containing plant it usually gets sick and it also extremely sedating so you eat a poppy plant lay in a field and boom a lion eats you. That is regulating the environment. Not making an animal extremely euphoric. It doesn't add up to me. The fact that dmt containing plants grow around maoi containing plants is insane. If the earth is a living organism wouldn't it be super intelligent and produce chemicals that allow us to treat it better? We can't communicate with the cells in our bodies but we can create chemicals that interact with them. These are my stoned thoughts.
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Re: Does anyone else think that magic mushrooms are magical? [Re: LiquidVisions]
#21917640 - 07/09/15 12:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Animals get the same effects from psychedelics as humans? I think they eat different types of plants etc to the psychoactive plants that humans use. I think the psychedelics like mushrooms and DMT are definitely here for humans as well as their part in the ecosystem.
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Re: Does anyone else think that magic mushrooms are magical? [Re: Signeg]
#21917645 - 07/09/15 12:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think mushrooms are the most spiritual psychedelic. Every trip has such meaning and depth to it that it just leaves me in awe
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Re: Does anyone else think that magic mushrooms are magical? [Re: Signeg]
#21917727 - 07/09/15 01:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea there's videos of dogs tripping out on some mushrooms they found. I think under one video I saw the owner said she caught the dog running of in search of the mushroom.
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Re: Does anyone else think that magic mushrooms are magical? [Re: LiquidVisions]
#21917859 - 07/09/15 02:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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We are more like wizards and druids than citizens and people, the world is more like a sentence or novel than particles or waves.
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Re: Does anyone else think that magic mushrooms are magical? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#21917898 - 07/09/15 02:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Rebelutionsssss said: I think mushrooms are the most spiritual psychedelic. Every trip has such meaning and depth to it that it just leaves me in awe
I think it doesn't matter which psychedelic you take, I have had 100% the same trips on LSD and mushrooms
Depends more on the set,setting than the tool you use
I have even had the same meaningfulness trip from Salvia, everything is new and beautiful afterwards
It's hard to find good LSD though, most is very weak. When you find it you know LSD can be at least as good as mushrooms
There are benefits/disadvantages to each psychedelic
By thinking your fav psychedelic is most spiritual you make it more spiritual. You may even make it spiritual when it is not
To know what is spiritual we must know real spirituality first, and know advantages/disadvantages of the tool We must try to understand our minds both on the drug and in the way we feel best without the drug
Then the real benefits/disadvantages show up , and sure it can be very magical, but there's usually a small/larger price to pay each time
As long as one is willing to pay the price it's fine, you must be able to fit a trip into your life situation
There are many situations you can't just trip in, but real spirituality you can achieve at any time
So that makes it seem like shrooms are not your full spirituality, but maybe only a subset, it may not balance ones energy fully , or even imbalance it (price to pay)
Btw I like LSD/shrooms a lot too, but they are tools with a price, both physically and mentally I have seen both good examples of trippers and very bad examples (both LSD/mushrooms - they do the same)
When I try alternate methods I find there are many methods that offer the joy and freedom feeling that psychedelics can bring, with equally bad side effects (lucid dreaming i.e.), or meditation in nature
Usually always a small price to pay, i.e. few hours of isolation , or a day for yourself with lucid dreaming
The price is mind dependent too ;-) , may be totally worth it
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Re: Does anyone else think that magic mushrooms are magical? [Re: circastes]
#21917901 - 07/09/15 02:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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..Yeah... I just don't see it. Im out numbered. Ya guys win.
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Re: Does anyone else think that magic mushrooms are magical? [Re: Signeg]
#21917928 - 07/09/15 03:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Signeg said:
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lessismore said:
Maybe it's society that is crazy ?

Ego-death is when the person thinks they are their ego for their whole life, they think the ego is the self. Then something changes and they lose that identity they thought they were and start seeing things in a new way. It's probably also where the duality or kundalini could begin.
Nothing stays the same. Everything is in a constant state of change. We think we are seperate from this, but that is our ignorance and denial. We're all apart of one big fractal made up of energy and vibration. "Keep going... spiral out", as Maynard said
You can see that the negative outweighs the positive in our culture and society or our species, Which is not a positive place to grow into, and a way to keep your consciousness low. But when you become aware of it all, you can raise that positive vibration as well. It is all part of the real experience and getting out the ego or unconscious. Don't be scared of where your mind can go. Let go of your grounding of ego.
The psychedelic experience seems to be the closest connection we have to the source of consciousness. The infinite. "God"
This might be where natures consciousness lives and let's us see and find our way back to symbiotic relationship with nature and our true purpose.
The bee "just knows" its purpose, the spider knows to make its web. But what do we know? It's all because of that loss of connection to source, which directs us in the direction we are suppose to be going. Everything comes back to that disconnection. Re-connect and you will remove the clutter from your mind.
I'll leave you with this inspiring clip from Paul Stamets and the DVD that comes out this year. 
"We are the great danger. Psyche is the great danger. How important is to know something about it, but we know nothing about it.”
― C.G. Jung
Yup letting go of grounding is a good thing, it's our fight for control that brings us unease usually
Let go of control
Psychedelics can teach us to 'just be'
But they may have side effects too as mentioned, do them too much and reading becomes hard, taking an education may become hard too
i.e. you can't just do high doses every week, reading would be impossible
They can help with a balanced life, and grow one spiritually if the user is ready, but they can also do the straight opposite
So I am not sure what I would call them, except tools
It can be very useful to remember ones inner child though, that is joy every day - very valuable tools there They remove all our excess programming, and set the mind free again in many cases
Then the only problem is you can become 'too free' for society and not fit in, there are certainly dangers
Society is all about ego, you don't want to keep removing your ego with psychedelics, then you would never get a job
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Re: Does anyone else think that magic mushrooms are magical? [Re: lessismore]
#21917931 - 07/09/15 03:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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And many people get problems finding friends after taking psychedelics, they get anxiety
Same with weed... drugs are not just good
Some people they do one thing to, then the next person the opposite
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