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Seriously_trippin
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They say do what you love......
#21897133 - 07/04/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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However going into a new trade school or college is almost completely dependent on what's going to be a solid,well suited,naturally inclined job. Usually one that makes good money, most things that make real good money in unions and such are boring AF.
What I really what to do is be a historian,anthropologist or something to do with marine life. All those things however I hear are often unreliable and you don't get paid much.
So should I get a job that I don't necessarily want to do but makes good money or should I do something that I will have to work extra hard at and making less money but something that I have passion for?
-------------------- R.I.P Zombi3, Blue Helix Modest Mouse Zappa Slothie That Kid With The face ShLong Le Canard split_by_nine & Big Worm Forever Etched in the sands of time in the shroomery and ever so beloved and deeply missed by many
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CliftonGK1
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Marry well and then get whatever job you want.
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Re: They say do what you love...... [Re: CliftonGK1]
#21897157 - 07/04/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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CliftonGK1 said: Marry well and then get whatever job you want.
^would be ideal.
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Jobbypot Smith
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Re: They say do what you love...... [Re: CliftonGK1]
#21897160 - 07/04/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'd say go for the job you want but learn lots of adaptable skills on the side.
Programming is a sure solid
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badchad
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If you received a faculty position in any of those areas, you'd be compensated fairly well. Most assistant professors can get 70-80k to start.
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Seriously_trippin
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Re: They say do what you love...... [Re: badchad]
#21897203 - 07/04/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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badchad said: If you received a faculty position in any of those areas, you'd be compensated fairly well. Most assistant professors can get 70-80k to start.
Hmmm, I wonder how many graduates get into those positions though. If it's a fairly high rate I'll consider it.
I'll definitely try and marry as well as I can lol but I'm not banking on it.
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i worked in a trade for 11 years and am currently in college figuring out my next steps. with my trade, while i enjoyed the work and the job, i wasn't passionate about it, which eventually led to an overall sense of dissatisfaction with my career. i also hit my ceiling a lot sooner than most guys my age near the end, which fostered a hostile attitude towards professionals in my industry who i saw as squandering my potential. perhaps i saw things how they really were; perhaps my perspective was just skewed by impatience and youthful ambition; perhaps it was a bit of both.
but now, after five years of struggling in the wake of an economic bust, a devastating divorce and clawing my way up to barely entry level wages with a truly evil company (that i intend to leave asap), school has opened up new possibilities for me that i could have never conceived. even though i don't quite know where it's going just yet, i know that i will never regret attending. i've discovered talents and passions that i never knew i had.
as far as being able to just step into a career where you're immediately doing well, good luck with all that, especially now. creating a life is a difficult and arduous process, so you might as well pursue what you really want to do and let the rest follow.
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FreeTheSoul
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Re: They say do what you love...... [Re: millzy]
#21897526 - 07/04/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would like to get into trades as a way to build up my life and other things I want to do like owning my own businesses etc. But im scared of electricity cause a 240volt plug almost shocked me when I was moving it, I dont remember if I was told it was off or it will be fine because I was just moving the box not touching the wire. But there was a loose screw in it, Scared the living shit out of me. I saw a bright ass blue bolt come out but somehow it didn't hit my hands. Something was on my side that day. 
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badchad
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Quote:
Seriously_trippin said:
Hmmm, I wonder how many graduates get into those positions though. If it's a fairly high rate I'll consider it.
It's not super high, so you have the choice of busting your ass and working hard to do what you love, or taking an easier route. This is exactly why so few people follow their passions.
-------------------- ...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge. It is an indellible experience; it is forever known. I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did. Smith, P. Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27. ...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely. Osmond, H. Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436
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FreeTheSoul
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Re: They say do what you love...... [Re: badchad]
#21897611 - 07/04/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I notice I come into threads alot, tell a story but never answer the ops question. Op I think you should just ride the waves of the ocean and see where it takes ya. You already know the waves you wanna hit, just gotta find them/get to them.
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Hayoxp
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Re: They say do what you love...... [Re: FreeTheSoul]
#21897641 - 07/04/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's the choice of being a miserable rich fuck who gets fake pussy or the choice of being a passionate man who gets wet attention from the "one" broad you've always wanted. That's only in your case though, I rather be rich as fuck and do all the drugs I can and fuck all the pretentious pussy as much as possible.
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Seriously_trippin
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Re: They say do what you love...... [Re: millzy]
#21897699 - 07/04/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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badchad said:
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Seriously_trippin said:
Hmmm, I wonder how many graduates get into those positions though. If it's a fairly high rate I'll consider it.
It's not super high, so you have the choice of busting your ass and working hard to do what you love, or taking an easier route. This is exactly why so few people follow their passions.
See that's kind of what I'm afraid of it seems right now I have to pick something that has benefits and a solid substantial paycheck.Quote:
millzy said: i worked in a trade for 11 years and am currently in college figuring out my next steps. with my trade, while i enjoyed the work and the job, i wasn't passionate about it, which eventually led to an overall sense of dissatisfaction with my career. i also hit my ceiling a lot sooner than most guys my age near the end, which fostered a hostile attitude towards professionals in my industry who i saw as squandering my potential. perhaps i saw things how they really were; perhaps my perspective was just skewed by impatience and youthful ambition; perhaps it was a bit of both.
but now, after five years of struggling in the wake of an economic bust, a devastating divorce and clawing my way up to barely entry level wages with a truly evil company (that i intend to leave asap), school has opened up new possibilities for me that i could have never conceived. even though i don't quite know where it's going just yet, i know that i will never regret attending. I've discovered talents and passions that i never knew i had.
as far as being able to just step into a career where you're immediately doing well, good luck with all that, especially now. creating a life is a difficult and arduous process, so you might as well pursue what you really want to do and let the rest follow.
I'm almost afraid of this more. I think the most painful road is the road not traveled,what could have been. On the other hand I need something reliable,I'd like to buy a house someday.
Maybe I can do some kind of balance maybe do the safe trade school route for a while and then go back to college if I want to.
It's all so difficult, I barely can make every day decisions 
Yeah being rich and working too much sucks and that's not what I'll be doing either way but I don't want to be poor as shit either.Being poor fucking sucks,very hard to get drugs and sometimes hard to gt pussy without some money.
-------------------- R.I.P Zombi3, Blue Helix Modest Mouse Zappa Slothie That Kid With The face ShLong Le Canard split_by_nine & Big Worm Forever Etched in the sands of time in the shroomery and ever so beloved and deeply missed by many
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I need to find a job taking psychedelics, smoking mad amounts of weed, having sex with beautiful women and practicing aikido. Anybody know if anyone is hiring for this position?
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PDU
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Re: They say do what you love...... [Re: Hayoxp]
#21897710 - 07/04/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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My personality necessitates that i follow my passion - I've tried going to the "easy" route (trades) and I simply cannot do it. I do not like the lifestyle, the work, or the people - the general mentality in the trades is disagreeable to me.
That said - I have a 19 y/o cousin who has made $119,000/year for the past 2 years as a welder. Offers some perspective and food for thought.
I am on the verge of 30 and just starting my education to become a geologist. Although geology is a well paid science with decent job prospects, i'll be very fortunate to make that kind of money even with a dozen years of experience and a masters degree. That said - hopefully i'll be able to sleep better at night because of it. It seems like these young folks with their high paying trades jobs are high on life, so who knows?
**I am not implying that there's anything wrong with trades, rather that if I hate my life my quality of life is obviously very poor....
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Re: They say do what you love...... [Re: PDU]
#21897714 - 07/04/15 05:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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What i meant to say is:
Find a passion which has decent job prospects.
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luvdemboomers
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Seriously_trippin said: However going into a new trade school or college is almost completely dependent on what's going to be a solid,well suited,naturally inclined job. Usually one that makes good money, most things that make real good money in unions and such are boring AF.
What I really what to do is be a historian,anthropologist or something to do with marine life. All those things however I hear are often unreliable and you don't get paid much.
So should I get a job that I don't necessarily want to do but makes good money or should I do something that I will have to work extra hard at and making less money but something that I have passion for?
Don't choose a career path that you will not enjoy. We (most people atleast) spend 1/3 our life sleeping, 1/3rd or more working, and what's left doing what we want. Don't waste a 1/2 plus of the time you are awake doing something that you won't be happy doing. You obviously have to weigh the pros and cons of career paths and make compromises but don't choose a career that you will not be happy with just because it pays good.
If you want to do something having to do with marine life, move to the coast. You will most likely get a better education there and there will be way more jobs.
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Re: They say do what you love...... [Re: PDU]
#21897756 - 07/04/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think no matter what we say, we will end up where we always wanted to end up even if it is a bit late.
I think the geologist life that you chose might come out very interesting as long as you're passionate about it. If it blends with you well then you will have the success with women/money/etc. Happiness is different for everyone, living in denial is worse than being a low middle incomer with a happy life.
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Seriously_trippin
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luvdemboomers said:
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Seriously_trippin said: However going into a new trade school or college is almost completely dependent on what's going to be a solid,well suited,naturally inclined job. Usually one that makes good money, most things that make real good money in unions and such are boring AF.
What I really what to do is be a historian,anthropologist or something to do with marine life. All those things however I hear are often unreliable and you don't get paid much.
So should I get a job that I don't necessarily want to do but makes good money or should I do something that I will have to work extra hard at and making less money but something that I have passion for?
Don't choose a career path that you will not enjoy. We (most people atleast) spend 1/3 our life sleeping, 1/3rd or more working, and what's left doing what we want. Don't waste a 1/2 plus of the time you are awake doing something that you won't be happy doing. You obviously have to weigh the pros and cons of career paths and make compromises but don't choose a career that you will not be happy with just because it pays good.
If you want to do something having to do with marine life, move to the coast. You will most likely get a better education there and there will be way more jobs.
Well I'm going to take a look at my options,if I can find a trade i could get into that I like that would be great. One the restrictions I have is I have family to take care of that can't move with me. I have enough money for one shot at something to build a career atm. I need health benefits and steady paycheck but it's possible ALL of that could be out weighed by passion and loving what I do.
I want to be comfortable because all my life I have spoiled myself every time I make money. I never had a time where I didn't have video games,cable,since the internet became mainstream I've had that. I rely too much on these things,maybe if I put myself in a harder situation, something more challenging it could evoke the kind of progression I want in my life.
It's a challenging but constant problem playing it safe or going out on a real thin limb.
-------------------- R.I.P Zombi3, Blue Helix Modest Mouse Zappa Slothie That Kid With The face ShLong Le Canard split_by_nine & Big Worm Forever Etched in the sands of time in the shroomery and ever so beloved and deeply missed by many
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PDU
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Seriously_trippin said: It's a challenging but constant problem playing it safe or going out on a real thin limb.
Yup - i've been a risk taker all my life but i've been in a bit of a rut being a "steady eddy" the past few years....
One thing i will say - Is if you have a family that relies on you for support, that very much reduces your options. I see this within my group of friends very much.
Family = less options.
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Seriously_trippin
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Re: They say do what you love...... [Re: PDU]
#21898481 - 07/04/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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PDU said:
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Seriously_trippin said: It's a challenging but constant problem playing it safe or going out on a real thin limb.
Yup - i've been a risk taker all my life but i've been in a bit of a rut being a "steady eddy" the past few years....
One thing i will say - Is if you have a family that relies on you for support, that very much reduces your options. I see this within my group of friends very much.
Family = less options.
That's 100% true, I feel sort of trapped with so many relying on me
-------------------- R.I.P Zombi3, Blue Helix Modest Mouse Zappa Slothie That Kid With The face ShLong Le Canard split_by_nine & Big Worm Forever Etched in the sands of time in the shroomery and ever so beloved and deeply missed by many
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