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Leviticus969



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Gauging / Testing Potency
#21897057 - 07/04/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Welcome to my journal, yall. Well... I will get straight to the point...
This journal will consist of 3 parts:
1. How to Test Your Shrooms
2. Different Level of Trips/Potency
3. (The conclusion) - Why I believe my methods are true
1. How to test your shrooms[/gradient]
So you grow shroomies or bought some off someone... How much do you take? How do you determine if they're good or not?
Cubes come in a variety of different strains and may have different genetics. I compare them to people. Some people are born retarded, some are born average, and some are born gifted. That is the genetics... Some cubes are just weak, some are average, and some are purely, magic.
The environmental aspects (Their fruiting conditions: temperature, air exchange, etc.) also plays a role in their optimal potential.
So PLEASE take that in mind before you go eating 10 grams hoping to get a visual, euphoric, spiritual trip. Trust me... You do NOT want to go eating 10 grams of a retarded genetic strain in hopes to get wonderful colors flashing before your eyes.
So how I test my shrooms. I eat 1.7 grams of dry cubes. I weigh about 115 lbs so take that into consideration as well. 1.7 grams is more than enough for me to decide whether or not you have a good strain on your hands or a garbage strain.
So, a few things determine whether or not a strain is garbage or potent to me...\
The Sound Test... Listen to music -
On a scale of 1-10 how does music make you feel? 1 being annoying to 10 being euphoric.
The Visual Test...
-OEV's (open eye visuals) I like to turn on all the black lights, strobe lights, lasers, and music visualizers in my room. Also, duh, look at nature, the sky, whatever else with open eyes. OEV's are the more common of the visuals.
-CEV's (closed eye visuals) how intense are the closed eye visuals? You know you have an extremely potent strain on your hands when the closed eye visuals are non stop. Weird looking aliens, animals, people, are constantly popping in to say hi. Fractals of geometric colored patterns are flashing before your eyes non stop. CEV's are more rare and are the main determining factor whether or not you have a good strain.
On a scale of 1-10 how does the visuals make you feel? 1 being annoying to 10 being euphoric. A combination of both OEVs and CEVs is what you're really after...
The Feels Test
Anxiety and Nausea - On a scale of 1-10 how much anxiety and nausea do you have? 10 being you just feel sick to your mind and body
Euphoria and Bliss - On a scale of 1-10 how euphoric and happy do you feel? 10 being the happiest
2. Different Level of Trips/Potency
So i eat 1.7 grams to determine what level trip the cubes provide.
1. Weak - EGO DEATH. Loss of personality. Worrisome. extreme nausea and anxiety. No CEV's, barely any OEV's. Twisted thought patterns making me want the trip to end (or life). Music sounds annoying. In fact, everything is annoying. Not wanting to be around people. Isolation.
2. Semi- Weak - nausea and anxiety is somewhat tolerable. CEVs are barely visible. A little bit of colors and patterns emerge from the blackness once in awhile, but not that fun. OEV's are present but not that fun. Music is just meh.
3. Average - Nausea and anxiety is present.... But also, switches to periods of euphoria and happiness. CEV's are more apparent but still vague. OEV's are decent. Nature looks trippy, lights look trippy, TV is trippy. Music is trippy. Everything is just trippy. You can't decide if you're happy or miserable. You're in the middle (average). Oh and btw... Music is trippy.
4. Semi Strong - Nausea and anxiety is slightly present but the majority of the time you feel happy. Makes you want to get up and do things. When you don't mind going to a club or rave or being in public in general. OEV's are euphoric. Watching tv is fun as hell, looking at the sky/nature is amazing. Light shows are amazing. Music is just AMAZING. The important factor is you mainly feel happy here....
5. Strong - NO NAUSEA OR ANXIETY ARE PRESENT. EXTREME FEELINGS OF BLISS AND EUPHORIA. FEELINGS OF CONNECTED WITH THE UNIVERSE AND ENLIGHTENMENT. FEELING PURPOSE IN LIFE IS FOUND. CURES DEPRESSION. MAKES YOU WANT TO LIVE. EXTREMELY SPIRITUAL. OEV'S MAKE EVERYTHING EUPHORIC (LIGHTS, NATURE WILL HAVE YOU CRYING). CEV'S ARE NON STOP AND VIVID AND EXTREMELY COLORFUL. YOU SHOULD BE SEEING COLORS EVERYWHERE, THINGS YOUR MIND HAS NEVER EVEN FATHOMED WOULD APPEAR BEFORE YOUR VERY EYES. MUSIC WILL HAVE SEMEN COMING OUT OF YOUR EARS. YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE A STRONG URGE TO REPRODUCE ON EARTH BECAUSE LIFE IS JUST TOO BEAUTIFUL. TO PUT IT SIMPLY.... MAGIC.
3. (The conclusion)
In short... If you're serious about potency... which I think every cultivator should be serious about... You'll want to find fruits that look like this:
   
This is the level 5 trip mushroom I was trying to explain... It's extremely rare. Like most gifted people in this world. This is like the Jesus of mushrooms. The Buddha or Michael Jackson. Notice how they start pinning from my CAKE. extremely huge and fat pins full of magic. These were all from 1 multispore cake. Different flushes provide different shaped mushrooms but the consistency in potency and magic were all across the board, IDENTICAL.
Here are a few pictures of my other grows.
    
You can see how the different strains all look different in shapes, sizes, potency from my ms grows...
Look at all these and then look at my potent fruit... Notice how special that level 5 trip fruit looks compared to all the other ones. This is how you gauge potency by simply, the appearance of the fruit, imo...
Anyways... There's probably a lot more to talk about but I'm getting lazy. For anyone who read the whole thing... Thanks and I hope you enjoy your journey in finding potent fruits. Any questions or comments just lmk I guess.
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Grey
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What if I did bulk and they look like this?
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Leviticus969



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Re: Gauging / Testing Potency [Re: Grey]
#21897154 - 07/04/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That looks about a level 3 trip to me... Nice looking fat fruits but the caps and stem is too uniform looking like all those other grows I did that were moderate in potency.
Are you working with a clone or is that ms? Have you tried the fruits yet? Can I get a trip report please? 
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spacechildo
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where did my comments go? did you have them deleted?
anyway you can SEE potency, thats the dumbest thing you've said so far.
and again do you throw away batches of your "bad trip genetics" mushrooms? or do you save yourself the hazzle and just throw 'em out before harvest because you can see they are "bad trip mushrooms"
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Leviticus969



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Re: Gauging / Testing Potency [Re: spacechildo]
#21897259 - 07/04/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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your comments are in my journal here... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21897019
I posted this in the MC section also...
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Leviticus969



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but here it is again for you spacechildo:
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lol... To answer your question... I burn all my grows in the fire pit in my back yard. I would not ever sell or give away bad shrooms with disgusting trips. I hate taking those trips myself and I would not want others to have those same trips. Then you get people on youtube posting their bad trips and disgracing the mushroom name
But yeah... I know for sure bad trips don't come from my head, set or setting. It's genetics.
If you look at the pictures of the potent strain i posted above... flush after flush after flush the potency was bomb as fuck and IDENTICAL. No matter where i ate them or how i was feeling. It was really out of this world magic.
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Leviticus969



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Re: Gauging / Testing Potency [Re: spacechildo]
#21897268 - 07/04/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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WHen you've grown a variety of strains you can start seeing for yourself the traits and appearances of the mushroom and can SOMEWHAT how potent they are by looks. This is just me... Of course YOU probably can't see it as you are giving me the most absurd opinions on potency.
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spacechildo
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6Silent9Knight6 said: But yeah... I know for sure bad trips don't come from my head, set or setting. It's genetics.
so you could have a laughing euphorical trip in your kids funeral just because the shrooms dont have bad trip genetics?
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spacechildo
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Quote:
6Silent9Knight6 said: WHen you've grown a variety of strains you can start seeing for yourself the traits and appearances of the mushroom and can SOMEWHAT how potent they are by looks. This is just me... Of course YOU probably can't see it as you are giving me the most absurd opinions on potency.
OK, I'll play along, how potent are these shrooms then?
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OPB
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You are ignoring the human side of the equation. Was your biological state the exact same for each of these tests?
I like the enthusiasm but this is pseudoscience. If you could see potency you wouldn't be the first person to figure it out...
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Leviticus969



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Re: Gauging / Testing Potency [Re: spacechildo]
#21897294 - 07/04/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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No it'll probably be horrible but at the same time a lot better with this euphoric magic level 5 trip. TRUTH
I'll probably feel sorry and bad but at the same time have some spiritual connection with the dead telling me everything is ok and that death is a natural part of life on this kind of trip.
Judging by those shrooms.... Many short shrooms.... many clusters... You'd think they were a bad trip but the fact that they are unique and rare looking... I would say around a level 4 trip which is pretty colorful and fun...
So which is it? Good or bad? Can I get a trip report?
Edited by Leviticus969 (07/04/15 03:58 PM)
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OPB
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You can't really believe this. I think you are just trying to get someone riled up.
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Leviticus969



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Re: Gauging / Testing Potency [Re: OPB]
#21897305 - 07/04/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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OPB said: You are ignoring the human side of the equation. Was your biological state the exact same for each of these tests?
I like the enthusiasm but this is pseudoscience. If you could see potency you wouldn't be the first person to figure it out...
I'm not saying im the first person to figure it out... I'm probably the only one that talks about it at this time. My biological state was the same for each of the tests. I was shrooming out once a week with this strain and all across the board the potency was pure magic.
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spacechildo
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Re: Gauging / Testing Potency [Re: OPB]
#21897307 - 07/04/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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how do you explain people eating the exact same isolates and 1 starts bad tripping while the other one has a blast?
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Leviticus969



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OPB said: You can't really believe this. I think you are just trying to get someone riled up.
My intention is not to rile anyone up. I am not a troll. I believe mushrooms can save the world if used properly and I want to spread the love. My intentions are pure.
Edited by Leviticus969 (07/04/15 04:05 PM)
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Leviticus969



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Re: Gauging / Testing Potency [Re: spacechildo]
#21897323 - 07/04/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: how do you explain people eating the exact same isolates and 1 starts bad tripping while the other one has a blast?
In this instance... one person can have a positive mindset while the other a negative one... One person is lying about his trip. The one saying he's having a blast is probably lying. He probably doesn't want to seem like he can't handle the trip so he'll tell everyone he's having the time of his life vs the other guy has no reason to lie. He's just saying exactly how he feels (which is horrible).
they both should be feeling the exact same thing if the genetics are the same.
Edited by Leviticus969 (07/04/15 04:06 PM)
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spacechildo said: how do you explain people eating the exact same isolates and 1 starts bad tripping while the other one has a blast?
And how do you explain me having repeated the same trip on salvia, mushrooms, acid, and DMT?
Judging potency by appearance is ridiculous.
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6Silent9Knight6 said:
they both should be feeling the exact same thing if the genetics are the same.
You must be joking
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spacechildo
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6Silent9Knight6 said: One person is lying about his trip. The one saying he's having a blast is probably lying. He probably doesn't want to seem like he can't handle the trip so he'll tell everyone he's having the time of his life vs the other guy has no reason to lie. He's just saying exactly how he feels (which is horrible).
they both should be feeling the exact same thing if the genetics are the same.
thats just stupid. have you ever had a bad trip and sat there laughing your ass off telling everyone you were fine? you dont know what you're talking about. I'm done with this.
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OPB
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6Silent9Knight6 said:
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OPB said: You are ignoring the human side of the equation. Was your biological state the exact same for each of these tests?
I like the enthusiasm but this is pseudoscience. If you could see potency you wouldn't be the first person to figure it out...
I'm not saying im the first person to figure it out... I'm probably the only one that talks about it at this time. My biological state was the same for each of the tests. I was shrooming out once a week with this strain and all across the board the potency was pure magic. 
You can't control your biological state so no it was not the same. Also you can't be unbiased because you had a preconceived notion going in. If you take some shrooms that you think have "bad genetics" then of course they will seem that way.
If you were serious about this you would create a realistic scale (1-10 is too many for a likert, they need to be basic characteristics not specific descriptions) then have someone else powder a "good genetics" strain and a "bad" one. If you can reliably identify which is which over a number of trials then maybe we can take you seriously. This is how you become credible and what you should have done before posting this. Incredible claims require incredible evidence.
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Leviticus969



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Re: Gauging / Testing Potency [Re: GreenRabbit]
#21897357 - 07/04/15 04:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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GreenRabbit said:
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spacechildo said: how do you explain people eating the exact same isolates and 1 starts bad tripping while the other one has a blast?
And how do you explain me having repeated the same trip on salvia, mushrooms, acid, and DMT?
Judging potency by appearance is ridiculous.
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6Silent9Knight6 said:
they both should be feeling the exact same thing if the genetics are the same.
You must be joking
I'm not joking... Judging by appearance is only ONE!!!!! ONE way to determine potency... The biggest factor is eating them...
SPACECHILDO, here is another explanation for you ok? I mean you no harm bro. I'm just being as hoenst as I can be.
My friends always eat my shrooms and have a blast on them... But i always think those same fruits are garbage... REASON??? My bar for potency is a lot higher than all of theirs... Because I've had the ultimate strain and they have not... And when you've seen that kind of trip... all other trips pale in comparison. So they'll feel high and think the shrooms are good but in reality.,.. they are mediocre at best.
Edited by Leviticus969 (07/04/15 04:13 PM)
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