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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22231144 - 09/13/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: In the interview he indicated his personal views were against using pot recreationally, but did not oppose medical pot in fact he endorsed the people's right to vote for both medical and rec pot.
He went further than this. He said Colorado has big problems because of recreational pot. I would like to know what he thinks these big problems are. I'm from Colorado and still have a lot of friends and family out there. I've heard of one bad incident and lots of good overall.
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Also keep in mind he has to win the gop nomination before he has a chance to win the whitehouse and he has to play to his base.
I get this. But he's playing to his base at the expense of demonizing weed, gays, abortion, immigrants, etc. etc.
The guy's flip flopped so much... if it was 70s Trump running I might actually like the guy. But it's not.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22231164 - 09/13/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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When obumble was running he played to his base, Bernie is talking tons of liberal stuff, why do you only object when its a conservative doing the same thing? Obumble came out and told us in the general election he would go easy on pot and did the exact opposite. Trump never said he would oppose legalizing pot and said he was behind medical pot. Unlike ultra liberals, he will probably keep his word.
I don't hate on Bernie, its just that trump sounds better. He knows how to run things, idiots like obumble can only run things into the ground. Witness the decline of usa under his lack of leadership.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22231502 - 09/13/15 12:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: When obumble was running he played to his base, Bernie is talking tons of liberal stuff, why do you only object when its a conservative doing the same thing? Obumble came out and told us in the general election he would go easy on pot and did the exact opposite. Trump never said he would oppose legalizing pot and said he was behind medical pot. Unlike ultra liberals, he will probably keep his word.
I don't hate on Bernie, its just that trump sounds better. He knows how to run things, idiots like obumble can only run things into the ground. Witness the decline of usa under his lack of leadership.
You can't blame Liberals for every shitty Bush policy Obama has continued. Lets be clear though. NSA spying was a bush thing, not a liberal thing. Obama is not a fucking Liberal, Bernie is.
Bernie also has a 40 year voting record backing everything he stands for. Bernie is the longest serving independent, because he doesn't agree with a lot of dem stances. Bernie knows how to 'run things' too, and he's never bankrupted a comoany, or stiffed hundreds of small businesses and put them out of business. Trump destroyed family businesses, and peoples lives in the 80's. Did you know, if he had invested his money from daddy in a conservative, safe mutual fund, he would have the same wealth he has after all of his 'entrepreneurship' as he would from hands off investment?
You're saying that Trump is censoring himself? Its interesting that you give him that defense when Trump hasn't ever censored himself on anything else in his election. He says whatever asshole thing comes into his brain, whenever. Remember, he's not 'PC' lmao.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22231744 - 09/13/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bigbadwooof said: Did you know, if he had invested his money from daddy in a conservative, safe mutual fund, he would have the same wealth he has after all of his 'entrepreneurship' as he would from hands off investment?
I'm pretty sure the S&P 500 outpaced him. He's, at best, a marginally successful business man.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: The Ecstatic]
#22231864 - 09/13/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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starfire_xes said: there's a bunch of commie cunts on here too who think that there is nothing better than having government up your asshole 24-7 with a microscope controlling every aspect of your life.
I think you have it backwards. Conservatives want to control people's lives. No same sex marriage, no abortion, no drugs, etc.
Regulating Wall Street = microscope up my ass
its not just regulation of wall street. Its regulation and licensure of everything else too, i used to live in oregon and you couldn't even haul wood in the back of your truck unless you bought a permit for "safety reasons".
So did the logging industry write that law or did the people of Oregon, or their representatives, for it?
I don't know why the logging industry would care if i moved 2x4s from Home Depot to my house.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: BoldAsLove]
#22231916 - 09/13/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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>I'm pretty sure the S&P 500 outpaced him. He's, at best, a marginally successful business man.
If you are talking about trump, you are sadly mistaken. He is one of the elite yet he fights for the common man. Unlike you, he cares about americans and not illegals.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: paperbackwriter]
#22232095 - 09/13/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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paperbackwriter said: Bernie is for drug policy reform. Bernie supports Vermont's decriminalization of weed. Bernie and Paul are on the same page on the patriot act. Nor is he a warmonger.
In other words he's none of the things you say he is.
Seriously Stoney I think your hang up with Bernie is the D or more correctly that he's a Socialist. I'm curious what is your understanding of socialism?
I see right through Bernie.
He promises everything that will get him votes bute once he's in office, none of what he promise will be survive the house and or senate...
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Patlal]
#22232143 - 09/13/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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>I see right through Bernie.
>He promises everything that will get him votes bute once he's in office, none of what he promise will be survive the house and or senate...
Exactly. It takes more than good intentions, what has he actually managed to get done so far? Trump has the drive to succeed.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Patlal]
#22232160 - 09/13/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22232746 - 09/13/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: >I'm pretty sure the S&P 500 outpaced him. He's, at best, a marginally successful business man.
If you are talking about trump, you are sadly mistaken. He is one of the elite yet he fights for the common man. Unlike you, he cares about americans and not illegals.
No, I'm not. If Trump took all the money his daddy gave him and put it in a conservative mutual fund, he'd have as much if not more money. Anyone with half a brain could have made as much as he did if they had the same amount of inheritance.
He's not a business elite. He's a dumb, spoiled brat not fit to be president, and luckily, he won't be.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22232770 - 09/13/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: Unlike you, he (Trump) cares about americans and not illegals.
Did you know it's possible for people to care about Americans first AND other human beings too? Maybe you can't do both, but it's possible.
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Patlal said: I see right through Bernie.
He promises everything that will get him votes bute once he's in office, none of what he promise will be survive the house and or senate...
Exactly. It takes more than good intentions, what has he actually managed to get done so far? Trump has the drive to succeed.
I can assure you Bernie has tremendous drive, and I can also assure you that anything Trump promises will also have to survive the house and or senate. Or do you think Trump will declare a dictatorship?
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22232829 - 09/13/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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>Did you know it's possible for people to care about Americans first AND other human beings too?
Sure, but you have to have priorities. I object to passing by our needy, our homeless and hurting people just so we can help strangers from some other country? We can't help the whole world, its a sad fact but true anyway.
>I can assure you Bernie has tremendous drive,
He is spunky, but at 74 one must question his endurance.
>and I can also assure you that anything Trump promises will also have to survive the house and or senate.
True, but being the aggressive person he is, he likely will steam roller through his priorities rather than accept defeat like some might.
>Or do you think Trump will declare a dictatorship?
You mean rule by decree as obumble has done many times? We need to crack down on that shit.
Bal, first of all, I see no proof he inherited 200m, and if he did, inheritance taxes would have taken half. Secondly, you want to cherry pick stocks for him to invest in. We would all be very rich if we could go back in time and do that. You also neglect taxes which eat into that a lot. Taxes were much higher in the past than they are now. Show me how many people did what you claim to be so easy to do?
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22232889 - 09/13/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: you have to have priorities. I object to passing by our needy, our homeless and hurting people just so we can help strangers from some other country
What will be taken from our needy if we take in refugees?
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Stonehenge said: being the aggressive person he is, he likely will steam roller through his priorities rather than accept defeat like some might.
I'm not following you. If Congress doesn't want to build a wall along the borders, for example, then the idea is dead.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22232911 - 09/13/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's not necessarily true. A President could task government employees to build such a wall on federally owned property. If Congress didn't fund it, the President could certainly take donations or write a check out of his pockets for it.
Only by making such an action illegal could Congress stop the President from building a wall.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Enlil]
#22232919 - 09/13/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: ballsalsa]
#22232999 - 09/13/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm sure the wall could be built much more cheaply if we hired tons of Mexicans at $2/day to build it.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: ballsalsa]
#22233007 - 09/13/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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or write a check out of his pockets for it.

Trump could write a check today if he wanted without being the president.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22233008 - 09/13/15 06:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: you have to have priorities. I object to passing by our needy, our homeless and hurting people just so we can help strangers from some other country
What will be taken from our needy if we take in refugees?
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So there will be no cost from taking in refugees?
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#22233012 - 09/13/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trump could write a check today if he wanted without being the president. 
But that wouldn't get the wall built. He'd need someone with authority to build it.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: qman]
#22233019 - 09/13/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Taking in refugees will likely yield a net gain...not a loss.
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