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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22226874 - 09/12/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The funny thing is, he brings up the same negative aspects of illegals entering the US that Trump does, why isn't he a racist?

"more compassionate and realistic"

How so?  He's going to crack down on employers the hire illegals, when they have no job they will have to leave the US, how much does this differ from Trump?




Are you blind?  Trump is a republican.  Just like obama doubling down on bushes policies, if a Democrap does it, its good. :awedisgust: :smirk:




Bernie isn't calling them rapists or telling Jeb Bush to fire his ugly Mexican wife.


:lolsy:

Did he really tell Bush to fire his ugly Mexican wife?  :grin:


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22227336 - 09/12/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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How do you suggest we go about deporting them?




You don't.

Prevent them from receiving benefits.
Prevent them from getting licenses.
Prevent them from sending money out of the country.
Prevent them from attending our schools.
Prevent them from working.
Send them home immediately if the are arrested for any reason, and their families with them.
Turn them around at the border. Do not feed them or offer aid of any kind.
Require e-verify and seize the businesses of those who hire them.
No Federal payments to "sanctuary" cities and states.

They'll leave.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22227343 - 09/12/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The only way to take away the incentive of staying here is lowering our standard of living to that of Central and South America. Is that what you're proposing?




Except, no.

Prevent them from receiving benefits.
Prevent them from getting licenses.
Prevent them from sending money out of the country.
Prevent them from attending our schools.
Prevent them from working.
Send them home immediately if the are arrested for any reason, and their families with them.
Turn them around at the border. Do not feed them or offer aid of any kind.
Require e-verify and seize the businesses of those who hire them.
No Federal payments to "sanctuary" cities and states.

They'll leave.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22227352 - 09/12/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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However, Donald is also promising to get rid of people who were born here to illegals. These are constitutionally legal citizens of the US, so I'm curious how he intends to go about doing that.




As the parents are going, give them options.

1. Take the kids.
2. Leave them with relatives.
3. Leave them in foster care.
4. Give them up for adoption.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: airclay]
    #22227589 - 09/12/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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had no idea shroomery political forums were so right-wing





Ah there's a bunch of commie cunts on here too who think that there is nothing better than having government up your asshole 24-7 with a microscope controlling every aspect of your life.




Yep, most are either a right winger or a flaming pinko commie wannabe. Few fall into the reasonable middle ground like I do. I can laugh at both extremes. But the funniest by far are the loony left. I won't name any names but I hear statements all the time that would make you roll your eyes they are so ridiculous. You wait for them to say its a joke but slowly you realize they actually mean it. You want to back away quietly before anything happens but then you remember they can't pull out a gun and start blazing away even if they are nuts. So its a form of harmless amusement to read the nutty stuff and an occasional witty observation. i'll let everyone imagine how they fall on that scale.




"few fall into the reasonable middle ground LIKE I DO"

lololololol ok guy




You haven't been around here long enough to fully appreciate the absurdity of that statement! ;-)


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22227602 - 09/12/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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However, Donald is also promising to get rid of people who were born here to illegals. These are constitutionally legal citizens of the US, so I'm curious how he intends to go about doing that.




As the parents are going, give them options.

1. Take the kids.
2. Leave them with relatives.
3. Leave them in foster care.
4. Give them up for adoption.




I don't recall Donald giving options.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22229179 - 09/12/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If you're voting for Trump, this is what you're voting for:



:facepalm3: 'My first day in office I'll know more than you'll EVER know' lmao!


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: starfire_xes]
    #22230034 - 09/13/15 06:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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there's a bunch of commie cunts on here too who think that there is nothing better than having government up your asshole 24-7 with a microscope controlling every aspect of your life.



I think you have it backwards.  Conservatives want to control people's lives.  No same sex marriage, no abortion, no drugs, etc.

Please explain how liberals want Government controlling their lives.  The only thing I can think of is background checks for people purchasing guns.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22230292 - 09/13/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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there's a bunch of commie cunts on here too who think that there is nothing better than having government up your asshole 24-7 with a microscope controlling every aspect of your life.



I think you have it backwards.  Conservatives want to control people's lives.  No same sex marriage, no abortion, no drugs, etc.

Please explain how liberals want Government controlling their lives.  The only thing I can think of is background checks for people purchasing guns.




Regulating Wall Street = microscope up my ass


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22230495 - 09/13/15 08:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hi fal

>Conservatives want to control people's lives.  No same sex marriage, no abortion, no drugs, etc.

Libs want no drugs, obumble shows that. They want govt to spy on us 24/7, read our emails, have license plate scanners everywhere. They want to keep going every war overseas and start new ones.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22230539 - 09/13/15 09:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Did you read the antiweed comments Trump has made Stoney?


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22230549 - 09/13/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Nope, and neither did you or you would post it with a link.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22230639 - 09/13/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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starfire_xes said:
there's a bunch of commie cunts on here too who think that there is nothing better than having government up your asshole 24-7 with a microscope controlling every aspect of your life.



I think you have it backwards.  Conservatives want to control people's lives.  No same sex marriage, no abortion, no drugs, etc.

Please explain how liberals want Government controlling their lives.  The only thing I can think of is background checks for people purchasing guns.




Regulating Wall Street = microscope up my ass



its not just regulation of wall street. Its regulation and licensure of everything else too, i used to live in oregon and you couldn't even haul wood in the back of your truck unless you bought a permit for "safety reasons".


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: psyconaught]
    #22230765 - 09/13/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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its not just regulation of wall street. Its regulation and licensure of everything else too, i used to live in oregon and you couldn't even haul wood in the back of your truck unless you bought a permit for "safety reasons".




I wish they would regulate wall st and the big banks. Instead, they repealed glass steagal and give the big banks bailouts. They print up funny money and dump it into the stock market. Meanwhile, the average person struggles and wonders why if unemployment is so low, they can't find a half way decent job.

You needed a permit to haul wood? OMG! The police state is here.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22230817 - 09/13/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Nope, and neither did you or you would post it with a link.




I did.  I'll post a link.  It was a few pages back but here you go.

Quote:

Hannity: "Colorado, marijuana. Good or bad experiment?"

Trump: "I say it's bad. Medical marijuana is another thing, but I think it's bad. And I feel strongly about that."




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Hannity: "What about the state's right aspect of it, if the people of Colorado decide."

Trump: "If they vote for it, they vote for it. But they've got a lot of problems going on right now in Colorado — some big, big problems. But medical marijuana, 100 percent."




I really want to know what these big problems are.  I know of one incident with edibles and the state is changing edible regulation because of that.  Aside from that I've only heard positives.  Lower drunk driving incidents, tourist boom, more tax revenue.

Here's the link.  You can watch the video too if you want to hear it straight from Trump.

http://www.westword.com/news/donald-trump-on-big-problems-with-co-pot-laws-flip-flop-on-legalizing-drugs-6992369


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: psyconaught]
    #22230912 - 09/13/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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there's a bunch of commie cunts on here too who think that there is nothing better than having government up your asshole 24-7 with a microscope controlling every aspect of your life.



I think you have it backwards.  Conservatives want to control people's lives.  No same sex marriage, no abortion, no drugs, etc.

Please explain how liberals want Government controlling their lives.  The only thing I can think of is background checks for people purchasing guns.




Regulating Wall Street = microscope up my ass



its not just regulation of wall street. Its regulation and licensure of everything else too, i used to live in oregon and you couldn't even haul wood in the back of your truck unless you bought a permit for "safety reasons".




So did the logging industry write that law or did the people of Oregon, or their representatives, for it?


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22230991 - 09/13/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Libs want no drugs, obumble shows that.



That's why many liberals dislike Obama; he's not really liberal.

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They want govt to spy on us 24/7, read our emails, have license plate scanners everywhere. They want to keep going every war overseas and start new ones.



When you say "They", you mean Government in general.  None of those things are liberal causes; if you think they are liberal causes, please provide a link to any liberal website promoting these.  You're just making things up, as usual.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22231036 - 09/13/15 10:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Bernie is for drug policy reform.  Bernie supports Vermont's decriminalization of weed.  Bernie and Paul are on the same page on the patriot act.  Nor is he a warmonger.

In other words he's none of the things you say he is.

Seriously Stoney I think your hang up with Bernie is the D or more correctly that he's a Socialist.  I'm curious what is your understanding of socialism?


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22231098 - 09/13/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

In the interview he indicated his personal views were against using pot recreationally, but did not oppose medical pot in fact he endorsed the people's right to vote for both medical and rec pot. Also keep in mind he has to win the gop nomination before he has a chance to win the whitehouse and he has to play to his base. That's why he talks that way but notice he never said he would oppose or refuse to sign legislation decriminalizing pot. That's what we want anyway.

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>When you say "They", you mean Government in general.  None of those things are liberal causes; if you think they are liberal causes, please provide a link to any liberal website promoting these

How about a link to obumble's white house? He has been the driving force behind all that. No matter what you say, he is a liberal and has pushed stupid liberal policies like open door to illegals, amnesty, and now, even more coming in.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22231132 - 09/13/15 11:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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keep in mind he has to win the gop nomination before he has a chance to win the whitehouse and he has to play to his base.



Thank you for proving the point that it's the conservative base who wants more restrictions on personal liberties.


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