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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22189660 - 09/04/15 07:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: DarkBro0d]
    #22189740 - 09/04/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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trump o line




Exactly, Bernie will bounce right off that goofy lookin head of his into the whitehouse. Bernie will win by a margin not seen in 100 years! ;-)


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22189753 - 09/04/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22189766 - 09/04/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Trump will expose bernies flimsy socialist ideas and make him look like a fool. He wants to continue handouts to the usual suspects and will do nothing about illegals. Better than the jackass obumble, anyone would be, just about.

So in your earlier post when you said obumble was progressive, what you meant was he was black?


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22189847 - 09/04/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Trump will expose bernies flimsy socialist ideas and make him look like a fool. He wants to continue handouts to the usual suspects and will do nothing about illegals. Better than the jackass obumble, anyone would be, just about.

So in your earlier post when you said obumble was progressive, what you meant was he was black?




I didn't say Obama was progressive (strawmanning again, Stoney).

Race issues are progressive issues. Having a black president is a stride for progressivism. That's all I said.

Also, this:

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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22190157 - 09/04/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

>I didn't say Obama was progressive (strawmanning again, Stoney).

Oh really? I guess I made this up then?

>>Regardless of Obama's policies, he is a symbol of a big progressive stride in this country

>Having a black president is a stride for progressivism. That's all I said.

It may be what you meant but not what you said. Don't accuse of strawmanning when you said what you did. So being black is progressive? Get yourself a can of paint, you don't measure up sonny.

By that logic if hitlery gets in, that would be progressive just because she's a cunt. Then the next one should be an illegal alien. Are you with me so far woofy?


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22190204 - 09/04/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Trump will expose bernies flimsy socialist ideas and make him look like a fool. He wants to continue handouts to the usual suspects and will do nothing about illegals. Better than the jackass obumble, anyone would be, just about.

So in your earlier post when you said obumble was progressive, what you meant was he was black?




I didn't say Obama was progressive (strawmanning again, Stoney).

Race issues are progressive issues. Having a black president is a stride for progressivism. That's all I said.





Obama set progressivism back 25 years. :smilingpuppy:


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: qman]
    #22190223 - 09/04/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

A lot of economic retardation thinking in this thread. :rofl2:


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: qman]
    #22191362 - 09/05/15 03:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I hear ya.  I don't see anyone in full agreement on this topic, but we all get pissed when we think our money isn't put to good use.  The government doesn't make money, they take it, and economic policies are theories that just rearrange the deckchairs on the titanic of a ponzi scheme we have in place. Personally, I'd rather see a company make big bucks and create jobs than have the government just steal it and squander it under the guise of helping the less fortunate and creating nothing.

I'm not reprieving big business, but putting more shackles on companies will just drive them and potential jobs overseas. The gov uses the same tactic in changing public opinion when it needs approval. It creates a villain everyone hates and wants punished while casting themselves as our heroes. The proceeds from the tax increase punishment just gets rolled into the trillion card monte game of our economy, and I will now stop with my cynical ranting.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22191807 - 09/05/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Trump will expose bernies flimsy socialist ideas and make him look like a fool. He wants to continue handouts to the usual suspects and will do nothing about illegals. Better than the jackass obumble, anyone would be, just about.

So in your earlier post when you said obumble was progressive, what you meant was he was black?




Bernie's stance on immigration is about the most conservative position he has.

Why do you even bother here? Nobody takes you seriously, and you continue to prove you have a childish grasp of politics at best. I'm not trying to flame you, but your masochism is fascinating.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: qman]
    #22191813 - 09/05/15 08:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Trump will expose bernies flimsy socialist ideas and make him look like a fool. He wants to continue handouts to the usual suspects and will do nothing about illegals. Better than the jackass obumble, anyone would be, just about.

So in your earlier post when you said obumble was progressive, what you meant was he was black?




I didn't say Obama was progressive (strawmanning again, Stoney).

Race issues are progressive issues. Having a black president is a stride for progressivism. That's all I said.





Obama set progressivism back 25 years. :smilingpuppy:




That's weird because Bernie is outpolling every conservative candidate.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22191830 - 09/05/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Bigbadwooof said:
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Trump will expose bernies flimsy socialist ideas and make him look like a fool. He wants to continue handouts to the usual suspects and will do nothing about illegals. Better than the jackass obumble, anyone would be, just about.

So in your earlier post when you said obumble was progressive, what you meant was he was black?




I didn't say Obama was progressive (strawmanning again, Stoney).

Race issues are progressive issues. Having a black president is a stride for progressivism. That's all I said.





Obama set progressivism back 25 years. :smilingpuppy:




That's weird because Bernie is outpolling every conservative candidate.




The fact that Bernie is popular doesn't diminish the fact that Obama wasn't good for progressivism.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: qman]
    #22191844 - 09/05/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not saying he was, but an infinitely more progressive rising in the polls faster than Obama did is hardly setting progressivism back 25 years.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: qman]
    #22192007 - 09/05/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Obumble is a liberal hack, he supports negroes at every turn, even criminals like travor martin, etc etc. Never said a word when whites are victims of crime. Never said a word about the white americans in Europe who disarmed that nut with a gun who was killing people. If it had been American negroes who did it, you can bet he would have made a whole speech about it. But white folks can pound sand, that's his attitude.

He is in favor of letting the illegals in, letting them stay, letting them get drivers licenses, winks at illegal voting. He is of course against voter id, that makes it harder for illegal bums to vote for more handouts from the dems.

Then we see loony leftists saying he is a conservative right winger. Uh huh, and I'm santa claus.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22192579 - 09/05/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Obumble is a liberal hack, he supports negroes at every turn, even criminals like travor martin, etc etc. Never said a word when whites are victims of crime. Never said a word about the white americans in Europe who disarmed that nut with a gun who was killing people. If it had been American negroes who did it, you can bet he would have made a whole speech about it. But white folks can pound sand, that's his attitude.

He is in favor of letting the illegals in, letting them stay, letting them get drivers licenses, winks at illegal voting. He is of course against voter id, that makes it harder for illegal bums to vote for more handouts from the dems.

Then we see loony leftists saying he is a conservative right winger. Uh huh, and I'm santa claus.




Firstly, if you really think about it, letting illegals in the country is a political stance more in-line with conservative philosophy than liberal. The reason Republicans don't support immigration is because they are a bunch of racists, but it does fall in line with their ideology. Immigration is good for big business because it drives wages down and boosts profits for big business. I really don't understand how this has become a left wing issue, but a true Liberal, like Bernie Sanders, does not support illegal immigration, and I don't either.

Obama has continued virtually every shitty thing that Bush did, but he also created the conservative healthcare program. He's like a conservative president who talks like a liberal, sometimes.

My point was simple and clear about Obama. Being the first black president is symbolic of progressive succeed. It's demonstrative of the fact that our nation is 'progressing' on race issues.

The only way anyone can say that he set progressivism back is the fact that he is a conservative with a blue shirt on. The fact of the matter is, if hillary had been elected it would have been worse. She would have dishearted liberals more than Obama.

Bernie is the man Obama should have been, and the country is starting to see that.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: qman]
    #22192627 - 09/05/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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A lot of economic retardation thinking in this thread. :rofl2:




I find it funny that you make a statement like that when nobody is even talking about economics.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Astral Pain]
    #22192660 - 09/05/15 01:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I hear ya.  I don't see anyone in full agreement on this topic, but we all get pissed when we think our money isn't put to good use.  The government doesn't make money, they take it, and economic policies are theories that just rearrange the deckchairs on the titanic of a ponzi scheme we have in place. Personally, I'd rather see a company make big bucks and create jobs than have the government just steal it and squander it under the guise of helping the less fortunate and creating nothing.

I'm not reprieving big business, but putting more shackles on companies will just drive them and potential jobs overseas. The gov uses the same tactic in changing public opinion when it needs approval. It creates a villain everyone hates and wants punished while casting themselves as our heroes. The proceeds from the tax increase punishment just gets rolled into the trillion card monte game of our economy, and I will now stop with my cynical ranting.




This right here is an example of economic infantilism. When government programs help the less fortunate, they're doing exactly that. That's not where money is squandered. Money is squandered subsidizing big business and, as Trump would put it, 'rebuilding the military', whatever the fuck that means. Also, of course, using that military whimsically, like some bully on a playground with the biggest stick and poor communication skills.

People have plenty of reason to hate the practices big business without the government 'propagandizing'. I am curious what exactly you think it is that the government does that is so unfriendly to business. We tax them? Is that your beef? A large percentage of them pay $0 in taxes, so you can unbundle your panties a little bit.

Taxes do not = theft. This is a ridiculous Libertarian line, and it's impossible to talk to people who speak in such irrational terms.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22192694 - 09/05/15 01:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Obama is way ahead of him on rebuilding the military anyway.

And I'll just post this here too.



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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22192725 - 09/05/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Exactly. Noam Chomsky used to work at MIT too, didn't he? lol

That Cheetah thing is impressive.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22192797 - 09/05/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Your strange thinking is on full display. You tell us conservatives are in favor of illegal immigrants but when faced with the fact that they are actually against it and liberals are the ones in favor, you don't change your beliefs, you just pass it off by calling conservatives a name, racists. Both conservative and liberal rich people are the ones in favor of it.

You tell us libs are the good guys and conservatives the bad ones. When faced with the fact a liberal president does lots of bad things, you don't change your beliefs you simply start calling him a conservative. That is news to the dem party.

The liberal aca, is a monstrosity, but you say its a conservative law so that you can call obumble a conservative. Why then were the gop united against it if its so conservative and why were the dems the ones who pushed it through? Will you tell us next the dems are conservative too?

You never let facts get in the way of ideology or preconceived ideas.


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