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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: zappaisgod]
#22164505 - 08/30/15 12:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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At least you are consistent. Consistently wrong. Its been explained so that even most of the feeble minded might understand that latinos are a mix of races including black and native American.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22164520 - 08/30/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: Virtually everything we think we know today we will discover later was wrong in some way. It may be in a minor way or something major but there is no chance in hell we've got it all right. We laugh at things people believed 100 years ago and they laughed at what people believed before them and so on.
And what makes you the expert? Of course we get things wrong, but we know we got them wrong when we see and analyze the evidence. You like to contradict science at every turn, but it seems to me that this is based in a mistrust of science (as your above comments indicate) rather than in the material evidence present. Unless you have an advanced degree in science, and specifically anthropology, you really don't have the tools to analyze the data anyway.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22164794 - 08/30/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: More self contradictory baloney.
>we all originated in Africa >Neanderthals were closely related
And you totally ignore cro magnon. Maybe one tributary of the present species originated in Africa. Others seem to have popped up from elsewhere.
DNA shows that cro-magnon isn't divergent enough to be considered a separate species, so much so that the term isn't even used anymore. What divergence we do see is consistent with interbreeding with neanderthals.
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What is likely is that the so called missing link or predecessors of humans were widely dispersed. Human like creatures came from these and were different on each major continent. In the final analysis we don't really know.
Likely according to who? You?
And yes, nature takes different paths to reach similar results but not the exact same result. DNA shows we all have a common ancestor and like it or not your ancestors most likely came from Africa.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: paperbackwriter]
#22164800 - 08/30/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Got anything to back up all those statements you have made? I posted a link about cro magnon.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: paperbackwriter]
#22164890 - 08/30/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: More self contradictory baloney.
>we all originated in Africa >Neanderthals were closely related
And you totally ignore cro magnon. Maybe one tributary of the present species originated in Africa. Others seem to have popped up from elsewhere.
DNA shows that cro-magnon isn't divergent enough to be considered a separate species, so much so that the term isn't even used anymore. What divergence we do see is consistent with interbreeding with neanderthals.
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What is likely is that the so called missing link or predecessors of humans were widely dispersed. Human like creatures came from these and were different on each major continent. In the final analysis we don't really know.
Likely according to who? You?
And yes, nature takes different paths to reach similar results but not the exact same result. DNA shows we all have a common ancestor and like it or not your ancestors most likely came from Africa.
Fuck all Stoneys justification for racism. Lets put that aside real quick, and observe the real question here.
Would you fuck a Neanderthal?
Answer: Yes. Fuck Yes!
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22164919 - 08/30/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: Got anything to back up all those statements you have made? I posted a link about cro magnon.
Did you miss all of the links posted earlier?
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: BoldAsLove]
#22164932 - 08/30/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You have not presented any quotes or evidence to support your theory, throwing out websites is not the same thing. Here is something from one of those links suggesting the matter is not settled yet.
"There are two theories about the origin of modern humans: 1) they arose in one place—Africa—and 2) premodern humans migrated from Africa to become modern humans in other parts of the world"
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22164968 - 08/30/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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First of all, the first two are peer-reviewed, so quite a bit above just a website. And here is a quote that I provided earlier but you never responded to. From the first link.
"Currently available genetic and archaeological evidence is generally interpreted as supportive of a recent single origin of modern humans in East Africa."
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22164980 - 08/30/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: You have not presented any quotes or evidence to support your theory, throwing out websites is not the same thing. Here is something from one of those links suggesting the matter is not settled yet.
"There are two theories about the origin of modern humans: 1) they arose in one place—Africa—and 2) premodern humans migrated from Africa to become modern humans in other parts of the world"
https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/neanderthal/
This article substantiates Stoneys claim to an extent. Apparently Europeans and Asians really are the 'mongrels'.
Homo-sapiens did originate in Africa, but about 60,000 years ago they migrated North and interbred with their ancestral cousins, the neanderthals, who evolved from the same parent species. This gave them an immune system boost. Asians and europeans are 1-4% mongrelized blood, while Africans are generally the 'pure-breds', with generally no neanderthal genetics.
Then again, this is science, and its probably wrong.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22164992 - 08/30/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: Got anything to back up all those statements you have made? I posted a link about cro magnon.
You pulled shit out of your ass. You didn't cite a single source unless it was earlier in the thread. When I wikid cro magnon it basically said exactly what I just told you.
Watch a documentary sometime or look at a text book that wasn't published before the turn of the century. DNA sequencing is a fairly recent technology but it's answering a lot of questions.
Yes, your ancestors were most likely black people. Dark skin is a genetic trait like blue eyes or blonde hair. Race is something made up much like cube 'strains' are made up.
We see predominant phenotypes expressed in different parts of the world but that doesn't make them a different species. Was I talking about cubes just there or people? Does it matter?
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Cubist bitches be like, "AA+ ain't related to no B+".
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: paperbackwriter]
#22165147 - 08/30/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Neanderthals had spined penis's so be happy with your neanderthal DNA 
Cromagnon are considered homosapiens because there is no real genetic difference to show they are much different. Europeans aren't really that much more varied than the rest of the world. The traits they have are about as distinct as any other human race.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: paperbackwriter]
#22165256 - 08/30/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: Got anything to back up all those statements you have made? I posted a link about cro magnon.
You pulled shit out of your ass. You didn't cite a single source unless it was earlier in the thread. When I wikid cro magnon it basically said exactly what I just told you.
Watch a documentary sometime or look at a text book that wasn't published before the turn of the century. DNA sequencing is a fairly recent technology but it's answering a lot of questions.
Yes, your ancestors were most likely black people. Dark skin is a genetic trait like blue eyes or blonde hair. Race is something made up much like cube 'strains' are made up.
We see predominant phenotypes expressed in different parts of the world but that doesn't make them a different species. Was I talking about cubes just there or people? Does it matter?
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Cubist bitches be like, "AA+ ain't related to no B+".
PE ain't related to no AA+ bro. AA don't make big dicks like PE!
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Achillita]
#22165261 - 08/30/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Achillita said: Neanderthals had spined penis's so be happy with your neanderthal DNA 
Cromagnon are considered homosapiens because there is no real genetic difference to show they are much different. Europeans aren't really that much more varied than the rest of the world. The traits they have are about as distinct as any other human race.
Spined cocks? Please elaborate. My dick doesn't have frekken spines!
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: paperbackwriter]
#22165523 - 08/30/15 04:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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paperbackwriter said: What evidence? DNA and archaeological evidence suggests we all originated in Africa. Some moved up into Western Europe where environmental pressure selected for lighter skin to allow more Vitamin D to be absorbed in a climate that had less sun.
Neanderthals were closely related enough that many Europeans and West Asians interbred with them. This is a major contributor to their extinction. Much as Native Americans don't really exist anymore in Mexico due to so much breeding with the Spanish. They basically mixed with homo sapiens and those that didn't died off.
Europeans owe a lot to the Neanderthal as breeding with the local population gave them access to the antibodies necessary for survival in their new homes.
White as a race doesn't even exist. It was invented by the protestants so they could have a middle management class to take care of the slaves and help their irish, polish, etc. servants feel better about their lower station.
To borrow from mush cult, a cube is a cube is a cube. Or a human in this case.
"White as a race doesn't exist"
Yet, there are clear genetic differences between white Europeans and Africans.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22165641 - 08/30/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bigbadwooof said:
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Stonehenge said: You have not presented any quotes or evidence to support your theory, throwing out websites is not the same thing. Here is something from one of those links suggesting the matter is not settled yet.
"There are two theories about the origin of modern humans: 1) they arose in one place—Africa—and 2) premodern humans migrated from Africa to become modern humans in other parts of the world"
https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/neanderthal/
This article substantiates Stoneys claim to an extent. Apparently Europeans and Asians really are the 'mongrels'.
Homo-sapiens did originate in Africa, but about 60,000 years ago they migrated North and interbred with their ancestral cousins, the neanderthals, who evolved from the same parent species. This gave them an immune system boost. Asians and europeans are 1-4% mongrelized blood, while Africans are generally the 'pure-breds', with generally no neanderthal genetics.
Then again, this is science, and its probably wrong.
Let's be clear that this wasn't Stonehenge's claim, though. He claimed that Homo sapiens originated in Eurasia, not that the European line is different genetically (which it is).
">everyone is black if you go back far enough. You don't know that."
"The smarter groups landed in Europe and asia while another group was in Africa. The African group developed musculature, speed and strength as survival skills. The European group developed smarts and became homo sapiens."
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: BoldAsLove]
#22165773 - 08/30/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bal your own quote says "generally supports" that theory so net even all the scientists are on board with it. I never said all humans originated in Europe, but we see that the Neanderthals and cro magnons did.
Another thing we don't know is if all African early hominids were black. They may have had a good bit of hair still. Are monkeys black? We do know that Africans today seem to have more talent in the physical area and less in the mental area and emotional control. How many scientists are black? How many boxing champions are white?
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22165995 - 08/30/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: At least you are consistent. Consistently wrong. Its been explained so that even most of the feeble minded might understand that latinos are a mix of races including black and native American.
No they aren't. They are mostly European of Spanish descent?
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: zappaisgod]
#22166101 - 08/30/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Keep up the good work, good old zappa gets it wrong again.
What you are talking about are Spaniards, we are talking about Hispanics, mostly central and south american.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22166121 - 08/30/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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How many boxing champions are white?
Most of them were white historically, only recently did the majority become blacks. It used to be the irish, italians, jews, etc. And now we're seeing a large influx of russian and latino boxers.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: psyconaught]
#22166163 - 08/30/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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They didn't used to allow blacks to compete with whites which explains that. Segregation and all.
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