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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22124269 - 08/21/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I really don't care who does it, but we need this Obama agenda train derailed asap. Your average everyday joe probably doesn't know the damage done and the aftermath we are faced with, but we need a conservative to take the helm.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Astral Pain]
#22124487 - 08/21/15 09:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Agreed. But not jeb, not the other whackjobs like Rubio, Huckabee, graham, etc. Trump is the only one not already bought and paid for. He is the new broom that will sweep clean. Obumble's legacy will end up in the trash heap.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Astral Pain]
#22124760 - 08/21/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Astral Pain said: I'm not in a thread starting mood but Trump just had an event in Mobile Alabama that probably topped Bernie's by 10,000 people.
Trump rally likely to be biggest primary event so far
http://nypost.com/2015/08/20/trump-rally-likely-to-be-biggest-primary-event-so-far/
C-SPAN recording
http://www.c-span.org/video/?327751-1/donald-trump-campaign-rally-mobile-alabama
We'll see when it happens
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22124801 - 08/21/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: Agreed. But not jeb, not the other whackjobs like Rubio, Huckabee, graham, etc. Trump is the only one not already bought and paid for. He is the new broom that will sweep clean. Obumble's legacy will end up in the trash heap.
Trump won't be president Stoney, come on!
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22125899 - 08/22/15 08:13 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Time to face facts, woof. Your desperate clinging to the commie wannabe has blinded you to reality. BTW, I found Bernie's platform and its an ugly one. He does say some good things but he is pandering to the usual suspects. He wants to jack up taxes, grab money from those who have it, and other garbage which I'm sure you are in favor of but which the majority of the public is too smart to go along with.
For example, he calls for ending the drug war but gives no specifics at all. He doesn't even say pot should be legal or decriminalized. In other words he will do nothing about that. Fail. His platform is full of promises to pander to negroes and give them bigger handouts. He also wants to mandate the same wages for women as men no matter they are doing different work.
While he would probably be much better than obumble, and hitlery, but that is too low a bar to qualify for the presidency. We need someone who is effective, not a lenin wannabe.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22125954 - 08/22/15 08:34 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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The guy has repeatedly said that this is a grassroots effort. He's trying to build momentum to get more people like him in Congress so he can actually get shit done. I haven't heard him promise anything that can't be done with executive action but if you have please provide a link.
As far as effectiveness here's everything he's sponsored during his time in Congress.
He's introducing a bill when Congress reconvenes in September that will abolish for profit prisons if it passes.
And here's his voting record.
No, he hasn't introduced his drug policy reform platform yet but he has said that the war on drugs is a failure and that he will be introducing his platform in the coming weeks.
Here's some more on his marijuana stance.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: paperbackwriter]
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: qman]
#22126089 - 08/22/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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pbw, that is encouraging, about being in favor of at least decriminalizing. He is in favor of ending big money lobbying which is good. A few other good things and some crazy commie stuff.
qman, it looks like the Donald is drawing more people than Bernie ever did. While Bernie is a decent fall back, we need someone who understands economics and who is not simply in favor of robbing the rich to give to the poor. That ends up with everyone poor.
With the bitch suffering from self inflicted wounds and her arrogance on full display, even many of the moonbats are turning against her. She is slowly sinking and will keep doing so. Her stubborn refusal to get out is good because it keeps the goof biden on the sidelines as well as any new faces that might be thinking of it. When a disgraced bitchlary finally is kicked to the curb, Bernie will slip in and fall with a great thud to the Donald. All hail president trump!
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22126108 - 08/22/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: pbw, that is encouraging, about being in favor of at least decriminalizing. He is in favor of ending big money lobbying which is good. A few other good things and some crazy commie stuff.
qman, it looks like the Donald is drawing more people than Bernie ever did. While Bernie is a decent fall back, we need someone who understands economics and who is not simply in favor of robbing the rich to give to the poor. That ends up with everyone poor.
With the bitch suffering from self inflicted wounds and her arrogance on full display, even many of the moonbats are turning against her. She is slowly sinking and will keep doing so. Her stubborn refusal to get out is good because it keeps the goof biden on the sidelines as well as any new faces that might be thinking of it. When a disgraced bitchlary finally is kicked to the curb, Bernie will slip in and fall with a great thud to the Donald. All hail president trump!
Maybe Trump and Bernie team up and run as Independents. They're not that far apart, Bernie just needs to tell the hard left-tards to fuck off.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: qman]
#22126149 - 08/22/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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qman, that could easily happen if the major parties stab them in the back. I do see trump running behind bitchlary but she is losing air faster than a punctured tire. I also see him behind sanders but only in left wing polls. Soon as the public finds out the nutty things he is in favor of, he will begin to sink as well
A trump/sanders ticket would stomp the establishment both d and r. It could herald the emergence of a viable third party. Once they take the presidency no one can say third parties have no chance. That is unlikely but could happen.
Since both trump and sanders are playing to the exteme wing of their parties, they tend to look a bit far out but will mellow no doubt as their competitors fall by the wayside.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22127215 - 08/22/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: Time to face facts, woof. Your desperate clinging to the commie wannabe has blinded you to reality. BTW, I found Bernie's platform and its an ugly one. He does say some good things but he is pandering to the usual suspects. He wants to jack up taxes, grab money from those who have it, and other garbage which I'm sure you are in favor of but which the majority of the public is too smart to go along with.
For example, he calls for ending the drug war but gives no specifics at all. He doesn't even say pot should be legal or decriminalized. In other words he will do nothing about that. Fail. His platform is full of promises to pander to negroes and give them bigger handouts. He also wants to mandate the same wages for women as men no matter they are doing different work.
While he would probably be much better than obumble, and hitlery, but that is too low a bar to qualify for the presidency. We need someone who is effective, not a lenin wannabe.
Bernie is hardly a 'Lenin wannabe', or a Communist lmao! He would be an amazing president! He just put a bill up in congress that would outlaw privatized prisons. You know, the prisons that have government mandates to fill, and cost more to operate than public prisons? That's a severe blow to the 'war on drugs' in all honesty. If Bernie says he's going to do something, he will do it, as has been demonstrated time and time again in the past.
Then again, you support Donald Fucking Trump! Reality stars for president! lmao!!! Give me a fucking break dude. You no longer have the right to call the left 'loony', ever.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22127227 - 08/22/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You give a feeble endorsement to Bernie, an avowed socialist, then this about trump
>Then again, you support Donald Fucking Trump! Reality stars for president! lmao!!!
He was successful on tv same as in business. But to loser leftists, success must mean they are disqualified. The best Bernie can do is take the nomination away from hitlery and biden.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: paperbackwriter]
#22127233 - 08/22/15 02:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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paperbackwriter said: The guy has repeatedly said that this is a grassroots effort. He's trying to build momentum to get more people like him in Congress so he can actually get shit done. I haven't heard him promise anything that can't be done with executive action but if you have please provide a link.
As far as effectiveness here's everything he's sponsored during his time in Congress.
He's introducing a bill when Congress reconvenes in September that will abolish for profit prisons if it passes.
And here's his voting record.
No, he hasn't introduced his drug policy reform platform yet but he has said that the war on drugs is a failure and that he will be introducing his platform in the coming weeks.
Here's some more on his marijuana stance.
Holy fuck lol... You just laid it out quite well! I will like having that link to his voting record handy in the future too. Bernie is such a great man! He's humble too, unlike probably any other candidate.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22127245 - 08/22/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: You give a feeble endorsement to Bernie, an avowed socialist, then this about trump
>Then again, you support Donald Fucking Trump! Reality stars for president! lmao!!!
He was successful on tv same as in business. But to loser leftists, success must mean they are disqualified. The best Bernie can do is take the nomination away from hitlery and biden.
If Bernie takes the nomination, trust me, he will be president. I'd put money on that ;-)
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22127249 - 08/22/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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i'll make you a friendly wager that Bernie does not win the presidency. i'll even give you 2 - 1 odds.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22127287 - 08/22/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: i'll make you a friendly wager that Bernie does not win the presidency. i'll even give you 2 - 1 odds.
I said if he wins the primaries. So if he is the democratic nominee, against your Republican candidate, I will take you up on that!
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22127663 - 08/22/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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How about even money he doesn't get the nomination?
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
#22127693 - 08/22/15 04:03 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: How about even money he doesn't get the nomination?
I'm not taking that bet yet. I really don't know what's going to happen. If Biden jumps in, things will be a lot more complicated.
If he wins the nomination, I am quite certain he will win the presidency.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#22157287 - 08/28/15 03:53 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think Trump's got the party by the balls. If he wins the primary he will lose the election. If he loses the primary he said he will run as an independent, which will split the vote, and lose the election.
Bernie Sanders has said he running as a democrat and if he loses the primary he will not run as an independent.
Bernie has appeal to liberals, but I don't think the party will nominate him. The last time the Dems nominated a true liberal was George McGovern. The country was sick of war, but Nixon still creamed him 60-40 in the popular vote.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Brian Jones]
#22157418 - 08/28/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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You may be right, I've thought the same things myself. Recent polls show hitlery way ahead of sanders and beating all gop candidates. Biden looks tough too, surprisingly. The show trump losing to any dem. I would still like to see trump vs sanders. Sanders is ahead of biden for the nomination so if hitlery drops out, it might go to him but we know how fast polls can change.
I have not seen much in the papers about sanders recently. They were covering him but lately not a peep. I think the media woke up and said sanders might win, they don't want that because he is not bought and paid for like the bitch or most of the others. They report on trump but only negatives. They would love to see him get the nomination so they cover him more figuring he will lose to any dem.
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