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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22013815 - 07/29/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Trump is the only one offering a choice.




What choice is Trump offering?  I haven't heard anything from him that sounds new and different besides ... "hey, I'm a billionaire and a really good negotiator and I'll negotiate better deals."  ... WTF does that really mean, anyway?




"What choice is Trump offering?"

I don't know why so many are still asking this question, did you watch his initial speech when he said he was running for US president?

He said the US was not going to play the unfair game of economic globalization, China was not going to export cheap goods into the US if they didn't take down their own restrictions, GM and Ford were not going to move operations to Mexico and then have the cars imported back into the US without a massive tariff.

He essentially called out the corporate powers and told them it's over if he's elected, the R's and D's don't even discuss this subject.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22013820 - 07/29/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not a fan of letting the chicken guard the hen house.  Yes, our current politicians may be middle management.  That's still better in my mind than the war profiteering we saw from Bush and Cheney.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22013830 - 07/29/15 08:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm not a fan of letting the chicken guard the hen house.  Yes, our current politicians may be middle management.  That's still better in my mind than the war profiteering we saw from Bush and Cheney.




Who do you think got us into the wars?  Yeah, a large combination of corporate and military interests, Bush was just the public relations spoke-person for those interests. Nothing was changed, Obama and Bush were both puppets.  :puppetmaster:


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22013931 - 07/29/15 09:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

>While Republican cry and moan about a "government takeover" of business and America, what really happened was Business took over Government.  And, of course, the GOP paved the way for it to happen.

What you consistently fail to realize is that the dems paved the way too. GOP has not had control of the process, it takes dem votes plus the pres to sign it. But in your world its all the fault of gop. The rich assholes just buy as many votes as they need and the pols who didn't get a payoff give speeches against it, but it passes.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22013990 - 07/29/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I have very little hope for our political system, and if Donald trumps is elected president it will be official, the American dream will have died.

-E. Borodin




If Trump is elected President, I think it is clear evidence that the collective IQ of America has sunk to a level that will insure America's steady decline to about the importance of England.




Too late. Americans displayed their absurd levels of stupidity when they elected Obama. Not content to be stupid on just one occasion, they doubled down and they re-elected him.

Trump, while not Presidential material, is hands down a better choice than the fuck-wit that currently occupies the Oval Office.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22014080 - 07/29/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Because McCain and the homophobic mormon dude were much better options...

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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22014192 - 07/29/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't say they were better options. Why beclown yourself thus? The stupidity of your statement should be embarrassing to you.

With McCain/Palin... you had a loud-mouth ass for Pres with a buffoon for VP

With Obama/Biden... you had a buffoon for Pres with a loud-mouth ass for VP.

Either way, Americans lost.

At least with McCain it's less likely that he'd have made up his own rules on the fly. However, he'd still suck.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22014204 - 07/29/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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At least with McCain it's less likely that he'd have made up his own rules on the fly. However, he'd still suck.




McCain would definitely have gotten us into another big stupid ground war and we'd probably also be at war with Iran.

He was way to dangerous of an option.  Obama sucks but Obama > McCain


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22014256 - 07/29/15 10:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/29/politics/trump-breast-pump-statement/

Some female lawyer claims when she wanted to interrupt their meeting to pump breast milk, Trump screamed, "you're disgusting, you're disgusting."

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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22014378 - 07/29/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I didn't say they were better options. Why beclown yourself thus? The stupidity of your statement should be embarrassing to you.




You called everyone stupid for voting for Obama and now you're calling me stupid because I pointed out our other options sucked.

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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: qman]
    #22014413 - 07/29/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Some female lawyer claims when she wanted to interrupt their meeting to pump breast milk, Trump screamed, "you're disgusting, you're disgusting."





I also think it's funny when grown men cry like little bitches over breast milk pumping , why would he do that is he emotionally unstable ?


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22014438 - 07/29/15 11:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I didn't say they were better options. Why beclown yourself thus? The stupidity of your statement should be embarrassing to you.




You called everyone stupid for voting for Obama and now you're calling me stupid because I pointed out our other options sucked.




English must be your second language. I mentioned the stupidity of your statement because at no point did I say the other options didn't suck.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22014447 - 07/29/15 11:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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At least with McCain it's less likely that he'd have made up his own rules on the fly. However, he'd still suck.




McCain would definitely have gotten us into another big stupid ground war and we'd probably also be at war with Iran.

He was way to dangerous of an option.  Obama sucks but Obama > McCain





You may wish to note I did mention he'd still suck. I just think he'd suck a wee bit less.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: psilynut]
    #22014591 - 07/29/15 11:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Some female lawyer claims when she wanted to interrupt their meeting to pump breast milk, Trump screamed, "you're disgusting, you're disgusting."





I also think it's funny when grown men cry like little bitches over breast milk pumping , why would he do that is he emotionally unstable ?




There was a mis communication, Trump and his staff members were under the impression that she wanted to use the breast milk pumping device during the meeting in front of everyone, the woman claims otherwise. 

"emotionally unstable"

Or brutally honest about his feelings, I'll take honesty over phoniness any day of the week.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22014621 - 07/29/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You may wish to note I did mention he'd still suck. I just think he'd suck a wee bit less.




The risks of a McCain/Palin presidency were just too high, IMHO.  We could literally be at war right now with Iran, Russia, Syria and Libya if McInsane was in charge.  Imagine Palin presidency ... fuck ... that's just not an acceptable option. 

Has Obama been a great president?  Obviously not.  Has he made the kind of mistakes McCain was likely to make?  Nowhere even close. Elections are often the choice of the lesser of two evils.  I maintain ... Obama > McCain


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22014727 - 07/29/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Too late. Americans displayed their absurd levels of stupidity when they elected Obama. Not content to be stupid on just one occasion, they doubled down and they re-elected him.

Trump, while not Presidential material, is hands down a better choice than the fuck-wit that currently occupies the Oval Office.




You may not realize it, but by making this statement you're inferring that Americans had some better alternative.

Trump is no better a candidate than anyone. His ego is too fragile to be president. I can see him nuking Russia because Putin mocked his haircut. I'm not exaggerating either.

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What you consistently fail to realize is that the dems paved the way too. GOP has not had control of the process, it takes dem votes plus the pres to sign it. But in your world its all the fault of gop. The rich assholes just buy as many votes as they need and the pols who didn't get a payoff give speeches against it, but it passes.




This is true. George H. W. Bush may have negotiated NAFTA, and it may have been a Republican congress that passed it to Clinton, but at the end of the day Clinton is the one who signed it. Also, Obama dove head first into this fast track TPP business. However, there were many democrats against the TPP, and only 4 Republicans who stood against it, two of whom are more inline with the Tea Party anyway (Rand Paul and Ted Cruz).

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I also think it's funny when grown men cry like little bitches over breast milk pumping , why would he do that is he emotionally unstable ?




What the fuck is gross about pumping titties? Shit I'd let a bitch pump titty milk right into my face like a super-soaker.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22014789 - 07/29/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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There was a mis communication, Trump and his staff members were under the impression that she wanted to use the breast milk pumping device during the meeting in front of everyone, the woman claims otherwise. 

"emotionally unstable"

Or brutally honest about his feelings, I'll take honesty over phoniness any day of the week.







If I was brutally honest at work everyday I would get fired in one day . I have to be smarter than that .. It's not phonieness it tactfullness . Anyway even if she wanted to pump breast milk during the meeting I wouldn't have flipped the fuck out , I would said something like ok lets take a break then ...  You look like an idiot when you start yelling over a mis  communication ,  he could have at lleast waited for milk to start flowing .  Saying oh it's a mis communication doesn't justify childish behavior over a natural human process . I'm going with emotionally unstable on this one , and I have a feeling I'll be proven right when we see him debate .


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22014814 - 07/29/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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What the fuck is gross about pumping titties? Shit I'd let a bitch pump titty milk right into my face like a super-soaker.



 
  Huh? I didn't say it is gross I said why is trump acting like a bitch over it . I agree with you . Not the in my face part , but maybe on her face though .


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: psilynut]
    #22014857 - 07/29/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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What the fuck is gross about pumping titties? Shit I'd let a bitch pump titty milk right into my face like a super-soaker.



 
  Huh? I didn't say it is gross I said why is trump acting like a bitch over it . I agree with you . Not the in my face part , but maybe on her face though .




Depends on the girl and the quality of tits.  If Salma Hayek was in a meeting and wanted to start pumping, I'd lend a hand ... Rosie O'Donnell?  I'd suggest she leave the room ...


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: psilynut]
    #22014944 - 07/29/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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There was a mis communication, Trump and his staff members were under the impression that she wanted to use the breast milk pumping device during the meeting in front of everyone, the woman claims otherwise. 

"emotionally unstable"

Or brutally honest about his feelings, I'll take honesty over phoniness any day of the week.







If I was brutally honest at work everyday I would get fired in one day . I have to be smarter than that .. It's not phonieness it tactfullness . Anyway even if she wanted to pump breast milk during the meeting I wouldn't have flipped the fuck out , I would said something like ok lets take a break then ...  You look like an idiot when you start yelling over a mis  communication ,  he could have at lleast waited for milk to start flowing .  Saying oh it's a mis communication doesn't justify childish behavior over a natural human process . I'm going with emotionally unstable on this one , and I have a feeling I'll be proven right when we see him debate .




"OK lets take a break then"

Trump is a very busy business man who doesn't have time in his important schedule to wait around for women to pump milk, that's something they should do you their own time, not Trump's.

Pumping milk is a voluntary choice at that moment of time, it's not like running to the toilet to take a diarrhea shit, Trump had every reason to be upset over someone dictating his time schedule.


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