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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22007053 - 07/27/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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qman said:
yet we still have a functional society




srs? blocked. lel


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22007117 - 07/27/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So, about trump. What is his plan. The wall? This "merit system"? We've been talking go after employers of illegals and papers please. What is trump's plan? Is he becoming irrelevant in his own thread? I have heard more of a stance from the side I do not agree with but at least "papers please" is a(albeit nazi:smile:)plan. Is this wall that I heard him talk about making Mexicans build and pay for really his plan and if so can that be taken seriously?

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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: spock] * 1
    #22007227 - 07/27/15 10:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't see why any US citizen would complain about being carded when there's over 100,000 known criminal illegals out on the loose. 193 murderer's with homicide convictions, 426 with sexual assault convictions, and over 16,000 with DUI convictions all released by this administration.

I hardly think it can be considered "Un-American" for police to do whatever they can to track down these illegal criminals that have no place in this country, or any place besides behind bars for that matter. The only thing un-American is having an administration that would not follow the law and flat out release these criminals. The immigration laws aren't broken an all, they just aren't being followed.

As for Trump, he was thanked at a victims testimony meeting by the mother of a boy that was tortured and murdered by an illegal immigrant. She stated that he said in just two minutes what her and countless other families have said for years without anyone listening. Trump is saying what the silent majority in this country is thinking, and it's about time "We the People" finally have a voice out there.

Here's the video of the mother thanking Trump. Skip to 5:13 or watch it all to hear about the details of her son's death.



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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Astral Pain]
    #22007344 - 07/27/15 10:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So what is his plan? I heard him say something like(or exactly) that he would have a wall built and "make" Mexicans build and pay for it. Is that his plan? And what other plans does he have?

If you can't see the problem with papers please then I don't know what to say. Our ideas of what America should be are not the same and, right now, I see the argument going nowhere.

So back to trump. What is his plan(s) and can it(they) be taken seriously?


"As for Trump, he was thanked at a victims testimony meeting by the mother of a boy that was tortured and murdered by an illegal immigrant. She stated that he said in just two minutes what her and countless other families have said for years without anyone listening. Trump is saying what the silent majority in this country is thinking, and it's about time "We the People" finally have a voice out there. "

What is his plan? No more crime and 'I want to make everyone rich' is not a plan. Silent Majority? Easy to say hard to prove. Democracy with free speech. Why is this "majority" so silent?

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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: spock]
    #22007361 - 07/27/15 11:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I find it remarkable that somehow, it's OK for the government to peek in on a billion phone calls and emails a day, put us through an immense amount of electro search equipment and hassle when we travel, place American Citizens on watch lists and anti travel list and yet, it's TOO much of an "anti-American" approach to ask people that exude characteristics very common among illegal aliens for ID.  That just makes no sense. 

There are 16,000 murders a  year in the US ... About half are estimated to be a direct result of narco-violence.  The Mexican Drug Cartels are the most violent drug cartels on the planet and have taken narco violence to a much higher level.  Much of this is governed and held up with illegal aliens ... Our labor pool is being undermined by cheap undocumented labor.

I say ask whoever they want for ID and ask the employers that employ people that look like illegal aliens for their "papers" too and throw them in jail if they are employing illegal workers.  We have to get after this problem and stop tip toeing around it.  Once the undocumented worker community hears we're getting more aggressive about it, they'll go back to Mexico voluntarily


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: spock]
    #22007420 - 07/27/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's only just begun, and by the looks of the polls thus far, people seem to dig what he's saying. It's just too early in the game for specifics regarding a plan, but I like the way things are going. He's at least getting the word out on topics no other candidate would ever dare of. They would be scared shitless.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22007493 - 07/27/15 11:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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KauaiOrca said:
I find it remarkable that somehow, it's OK for the government to peek in on a billion phone calls and emails a day, put us through an immense amount of electro search equipment and hassle when we travel, place American Citizens on watch lists and anti travel list





How is that ok? You are not serious. All of what you just said there that I quoted is NOT OK. Farthest thing from ok. no argument there, here.
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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: spock]
    #22007507 - 07/27/15 11:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

He said he finds it remarkable that it is OK.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Astral Pain]
    #22007509 - 07/27/15 11:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Astral Pain said:
It's only just begun, and by the looks of the polls thus far, people seem to dig what he's saying. It's just too early in the game for specifics regarding a plan, but I like the way things are going. He's at least getting the word out on topics no other candidate would ever dare of. They would be scared shitless.



He's talking loud and saying nothing. I like the way things are going too. At least on the gop side. I just wish hillary would get the fuck out the way.

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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: spock]
    #22007531 - 07/27/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hillary is on her way out. She has way too much baggage, and she's too much of a liability for the dems. Elizabeth Warren is going to step in as the backup vagina.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Astral Pain]
    #22007570 - 07/28/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I wish. I will actually pray. I don't wanna think about her vagina though. But it'd have to be better than hillary's.

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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: spock]
    #22007612 - 07/28/15 12:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

She's annoying as hell. Like a high school counselor on crystal meth. She acts like an SNL skit character.



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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: qman]
    #22007640 - 07/28/15 12:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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qman said:
Quote:

Stonehenge said:
The loony left always says if you have to show id it means they are Nazis or something. What a pile of horseshit. The dems don't want voter id so illegals can vote for more handouts.

Build that wall, go trump go!




What the lefties don't even realize is that the open border policy is for the very rich who benefit from depressed wages and an excess pool of labor, they don't give a fuck about Mexicans and their troubles. :lol:




Well, gee, then you oh-so sane righties should be in love with with an open border policy.... :rolleyes:


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Astral Pain]
    #22007684 - 07/28/15 12:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Astral Pain said:
She's annoying as hell. Like a high school counselor on crystal meth. She acts like an SNL skit character.





I know what you are saying but.She's got balls and is on the attack. She stands up and directly challenges big banks and that is one of the biggest problems that will break the U.S. if they are not stopped(contained). Big Banks is 100x the problem that illegals are. There is too much I like to even type right now. Hillary needs to step aside and let true progressives front the party. Elizabeth is the anti-hillary . I love Bernie too.

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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: spock]
    #22007688 - 07/28/15 12:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I like Elizabeth too, but she ain't gonna run this go-round, alas.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Le_Canard]
    #22007702 - 07/28/15 01:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Le_Canard said:
I like Elizabeth too, but she ain't gonna run this go-round, alas.



I agree but I think if hillary were to get out the way Bernie+Elizabeth as vp for now could change the world.

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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: spock]
    #22007705 - 07/28/15 01:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

A dream-team indeed.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Le_Canard]
    #22008364 - 07/28/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Le_Canard said:
Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

Stonehenge said:
The loony left always says if you have to show id it means they are Nazis or something. What a pile of horseshit. The dems don't want voter id so illegals can vote for more handouts.

Build that wall, go trump go!




What the lefties don't even realize is that the open border policy is for the very rich who benefit from depressed wages and an excess pool of labor, they don't give a fuck about Mexicans and their troubles. :lol:




Well, gee, then you oh-so sane righties should be in love with with an open border policy.... :rolleyes:




I'm not a member of the billionaires club and most US citizens are not either so it really doesn't work for me, have you noticed that all the Republicans are now officially pro illegal immigration?  Hell Jeb Bush thinks it's fucking great!!


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: qman]
    #22008374 - 07/28/15 08:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

qman said:


What the lefties don't even realize is that the open border policy is for the very rich who benefit from depressed wages and an excess pool of labor, they don't give a fuck about Mexicans and their troubles. :lol:




Well, gee, then you oh-so sane righties should be in love with with an open border policy.... :rolleyes:




I'm not a member of the billionaires club and most US citizens are not either so it really doesn't work for me, have you noticed that all the Republicans are now officially pro illegal immigration?  Hell Jeb Bush thinks it's fucking great!!




Who in the Political class gives a shit what the voters want?

They care what their corporate campaign funders want and they want CHEAP LABOR more than anything else.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #22008446 - 07/28/15 08:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So about that going after employers...

Quote:

A new report in The Washington Post suggests that immigrants who reside in the US illegally are working on one of Donald Trump's signature real-estate projects.





http://www.businessinsider.com/undocumented-immigrants-donald-trump-hotel-report-2015-7

*edit*

Honestly Trump's plan amounts to, tap into American frustrations over immigration, become president.  That's not really an immigration plan.  It's more like, tap into Germany's anti semitism, take over world.

A real plan would be...

Crackdown on employers.

End the drug war so the cartels dry up.

Give foreign aid to Mexico.


Edited by paperbackwriter (07/28/15 08:54 AM)


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