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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #21969747 - 07/20/15 08:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The fact we may have met aliens could be true. That the govt kept it secret may be true. But show me one example of this futuristic science they gave away to private business so they could profit from it? One example. We still haven't solved fusion power, curing cancer, or a multitude of other things.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21969777 - 07/20/15 08:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The fact we may have met aliens could be true. That the govt kept it secret may be true. But show me one example of this futuristic science they gave away to private business so they could profit from it? One example. We still haven't solved fusion power, curing cancer, or a multitude of other things.




Aerospace would be an obvious place to start … stealth technology … Lasers, microwave communication, digital technology of all sorts, microchips and computer technology, and, quite possibly the development of next generation aircraft that already exist, that we are using, that is hidden from the public that contributes to all of the UFO sightings that are actually our craft. 

The potential for bio-research is significant as well and, perhaps the biggest of them all, nano technology and the high tech membranes that will change (look up "Graphene") our lives in ways we can't even imagine.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #21971410 - 07/20/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't delve into the realm of extraterrestrial conspiracy often. There is so much nonsense floating around, who knows what is real or false. However, I can give my 2 cents on the subject. The government doesn't even want to label foods with GMO stickers, because it might cause some level of 'hysteria'. They think people are mindless idiots, and for the most part, they're right! I can see them covering up evidence of extraterrestrials to prevent mass hysteria.

As far as the technological advancement, I would generally have to agree with Stoney that we probably would not be able to reverse engineer alien technology very easily. We would be much more successful in doing so if it were out in the open, and we could gather the greatest scientific minds in the world to work on it. However, I think the US government would rather attempt to figure out what little they could, without allowing foreigners any chance at the same technological gains, even if they wouldn't be able to do the greatest job possible.

I'm curious, what sort of evidence compels you to your stance on UFO's Kauai? I have seen Bill Clinton speak about searching for UFO evidence. He turned red when he was talking about it, and he said he never found anything. I don't recall him saying he was 'stonewalled' though.

The point about outsourcing top-secret research and intelligence doesn't seem far fetched at all. I have no doubt that the president is not privy to all classified materials in the US, or even a large portion of them. He is advised by those who are.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #21971784 - 07/20/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't delve into the realm of extraterrestrial conspiracy often. There is so much nonsense floating around, who knows what is real or false. However, I can give my 2 cents on the subject. The government doesn't even want to label foods with GMO stickers, because it might cause some level of 'hysteria'. They think people are mindless idiots, and for the most part, they're right! I can see them covering up evidence of extraterrestrials to prevent mass hysteria.

As far as the technological advancement, I would generally have to agree with Stoney that we probably would not be able to reverse engineer alien technology very easily. We would be much more successful in doing so if it were out in the open, and we could gather the greatest scientific minds in the world to work on it. However, I think the US government would rather attempt to figure out what little they could, without allowing foreigners any chance at the same technological gains, even if they wouldn't be able to do the greatest job possible.

I'm curious, what sort of evidence compels you to your stance on UFO's Kauai? I have seen Bill Clinton speak about searching for UFO evidence. He turned red when he was talking about it, and he said he never found anything. I don't recall him saying he was 'stonewalled' though.

The point about outsourcing top-secret research and intelligence doesn't seem far fetched at all. I have no doubt that the president is not privy to all classified materials in the US, or even a large portion of them. He is advised by those who are.




BBW - The UFO Truth is, by far, the most important and consequential information on the planet.  Nothing else even comes close.  The implications are absolutely enormous.  Where we come from, who we are, information about our origins, God, religion.  You name it because if the public knew about a sustained alien presence on our planet it would change everything.  There is so much evidence going back thousands of years that far more is going on than is being admitted.  Astronauts, military pilots, naval captains, secretaries of defense, defense contractors that worked in alien technology projects … we're talking about a lot of people that have come forward and told the truth. These are people that are not writing books, don't want to be famous and have everything to lose by admitting their knowledge on this.  Thousands of sightings.  It was so crazy in the 40's that Truman admitted live on TV that his administration talked about it at every meeting.  Thousands and thousands of reports and the government says absolutely nothing about it since then.  Most developed nations (except the US) have disclosed all of their UFO files at this point and it gets virtually zero reporting.  The US government has proven it can be extremely DISHONEST about huge topics (domestic surveillance, for instance) for decades.  If you consider that the alien topic really is at the apex of the global secrecy mountain, a lot of other things make more sense. 

I think the biggest defense contracting companies like Boeing, Raytheon and others set up very classified, high paid teams to work on this technology so the best and brightest ARE involved.  I don't think the government, at this point, even knows all that much about it as it's managed by a completely non-political intelligence group so that Congress never gets a whiff of it.  Companies have shown enormous capacity to keep secrets as has our government.  Clinton and Podesta were absolutely obsessed with the topic and Podesta is the #1 high ranking advocate in the US pushing for full disclosure (look it up) and He's Hillary's top guy.  There are simply way too many credible people that have come out and admitted their involvement at this point.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #21971909 - 07/20/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So the public can handle the threat of war, of terrorism and the possibility of aliens but if our food was labeled it would cause mass hysteria? :flowstone:


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21972031 - 07/20/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That's not me talking. That's the FDA. Besides, the thread of "terrorism" is trumped up to, as Noam Chomsky would say, "Manufacture Consent". They want hysteria about terrorism! (maybe hysteria is the wrong word)

War and the possibility of aliens have always been there, it's nothing new. I'm not against labeling GMO foods, by the way, though I don't think they are harmful.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: zorbman]
    #21974494 - 07/21/15 06:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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...I saw a report on CNN claiming that he is actually cashing in off this whole thing, and has made quite a bit of money....




Okay.... How?




Not sure, campaign contributions?

Actually since I looked into it really doesn't seem like he is gaining anything but massive publicity and media coverage...

Donald Trump’s campaign has spent $1.4 million so far, 74 percent of his campaign’s money....

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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21974518 - 07/21/15 07:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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...I saw a report on CNN claiming that he is actually cashing in off this whole thing, and has made quite a bit of money....




Okay.... How?




Not sure, campaign contributions?

Actually since I looked into it really doesn't seem like he is gaining anything but massive publicity and media coverage...

Donald Trump’s campaign has spent $1.4 million so far, 74 percent of his campaign’s money....

-E. Borodin




Given the cancellation of some very big projects for Trump, I find it hard to believe he is "cashing in" on all this publicity.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #21974523 - 07/21/15 07:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, after looking into it I doubt he is making much if anything...

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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Coincidentiaoppositorum]
    #21974922 - 07/21/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You have to keep  in mind that a lot of trump's net worth is fluff. The value of his brands and businesses depend in large extent on publicity to support. If he comes out with favorable publicity that could boost his holdings a lot. It remains to be seen if the publicity will end up being favorable or unfavorable but they say all publicity is good publicity. He will do fine.

I sometimes wonder if the dems didn't pay him to switch over to the gop?


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21975009 - 07/21/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You have to keep  in mind that a lot of trump's net worth is fluff. The value of his brands and businesses depend in large extent on publicity to support. If he comes out with favorable publicity that could boost his holdings a lot. It remains to be seen if the publicity will end up being favorable or unfavorable but they say all publicity is good publicity. He will do fine.

I sometimes wonder if the dems didn't pay him to switch over to the gop?




All publicity is definitely NOT good publicity, certainly not at Trump's level.  I also agree that the Clintons may have made a deal with Trump to go in and blow up the GOP.  Wouldn't surprise me at all.

The wrong publicity can DESTROY a brand and that's what's happening to some of his brands right now.  I doubt the PGA will ever do business with Trump again and that is going to have a huge long term negative impact on some of his golf properties.  There will also be an odd stigma to the various Trump clothing, jewelry, cosmetics, etc. products.  I can't imagine that will help sales.  Might see a number of companies decide not to allow their business travelers (employees) to stay at Trump's hotels too and cancel business events/conventions there.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #21975058 - 07/21/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

while you have a point, trump has not reached that level of toxicity. He hurt himself bad with the Mexican comments and throw out immigrant comments but not as badly as the media would have you believe. The pga will wait till the commotion dies down and go back to doing business. They have no big investment in the immigrant issue and are simply being sheep much like we saw in the confederate flag non issue that became a big deal when the media blew it up.

The ones that dropped him will either come back around or other companies will take their place. Univision won't but they are being sued and he may get a bundle out of that. For every pc person who is outraged at any criticism of immigrants there are 2 who think he is right.

All he has to do is stop making stupid remarks, apologize for the ones he made and in time it all fades. People remember him and not so much the details. But, he could indeed hurt his brand a lot making more bad moves. But, Richard Nixon if still alive could sell his brand with the right advertising.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21975278 - 07/21/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think the only way this might possibly have a positive effect on Trump's economic future is if he get's the nomination. I'll tell you what, the man sure knows how to lie his ass off, in a strategic way, to gain favorability. Like when he told everyone his event had 15,000 people in Arizona, when he only had about 4,500. Bernie Sanders, of all people, pulled 11,000 people in Arizona... fucking Arizona!!!

You would think in Arizona, where they have this huge problem with illegals, Trump would have had more support than Sanders by a loooong shot lol.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #21977422 - 07/21/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Jeb is taking a page out of trumps book. He made a speech today saying he is going to shrink govt, stop lobbying and reduce spending. I know we can't believe anything they say but he is saying the right things.

Hitlery keeps dropping in the polls while her opponents are gaining.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21977557 - 07/21/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Jeb is taking a page out of trumps book. He made a speech today saying he is going to shrink govt, stop lobbying and reduce spending. I know we can't believe anything they say but he is saying the right things.

Hitlery keeps dropping in the polls while her opponents are gaining.




I am quite shocked by Trumps rise in the polls, I have to say, but I knew Hillary had nowhere to go but down from the start. The only question is, how far down will she go. I think the best thing she can do is lay low, and wait for the general election.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #21977660 - 07/21/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I am quite shocked by Trumps rise in the polls, I have to say, but I knew Hillary had nowhere to go but down from the start. The only question is, how far down will she go. I think the best thing she can do is lay low, and wait for the general election.




The truth is, Hillary is a terrible candidate.  Poor speaker, average at best debater, tons of baggage, slow to react, plays it very safe and lacks charisma.  She's old and doesn't look like she has much energy or vitality.  She blew a huge lead to Obama, a skinny black guy with a name that rhymed with the world's #2 terrorist and had an absolutely toxic preacher.  I mean she absolutely blew it in 2008 with a huge lead. 

I hope one of the scandals take her out so some more Democrats will jump in that aren't terrified of what the Clintons would do to then if Hillary won.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #21977704 - 07/21/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The truth is, Hillary is a terrible candidate.  Poor speaker, average at best debater, tons of baggage, slow to react, plays it very safe and lacks charisma.  She's old and doesn't look like she has much energy or vitality.  She blew a huge lead to Obama, a skinny black guy with a name that rhymed with the world's #2 terrorist and had an absolutely toxic preacher.  I mean she absolutely blew it in 2008 with a huge lead. 

I hope one of the scandals take her out so some more Democrats will jump in that aren't terrified of what the Clintons would do to then if Hillary won.




Those are all very good points and true. It gives me the creeps to think she might win.

Trump shot himself in the foot yet again with his mccaine remarks. Will he go for a triple? They say things happen in 3's. He is the true bull in a china shop when it comes to politics. Yet he could siphon off enough votes to get the bitch in. What a crazy mixed up world!


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21977723 - 07/21/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Those are all very good points and true. It gives me the creeps to think she might win.

Trump shot himself in the foot yet again with his mccaine remarks. Will he go for a triple? They say things happen in 3's. He is the true bull in a china shop when it comes to politics. Yet he could siphon off enough votes to get the bitch in. What a crazy mixed up world!




Trump is tapping into the "anyone but a traditional politician" anger coming from mostly whites who just think the system stinks.  It's not so much that they like Trump, it's that they dislike everyone else intensely.

The truth is, our political system is now controlled by the wealthy.  It's sad but true.  Trump can't change that but he can throw grenades and get a lot of votes along the way.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #21977838 - 07/21/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Has anyone seen the polling on Trump?  Word on the street he is getting a LOT of unexpected support by people one wouldn't suspect, like black males.  The reasoning is that people are absolutely fed up with D and R POLITICAL SPEECH.

The point is, people have lost family to illegal immigrants that shouldn't be here.  People have lost jobs because of them.  The politicians give more to people that are here illegally and that is a problem.  Illegal immigrants are illegal immigrants.  Period.  They are criminals just by being here illegally.

Like it or not, Trump, who is a blowhard, is resonating with a lot of people.  Bernie Sanders is resonating with some people, mostly people who are envious of people with wealth and want to punish people with money.  It is easy to get ground support when a good part of your platform is Freestuff.  That's basically my problem with Bernie.  My problem with Trump is he is  blowhard flipper.  Both parties are attacking Trump, and to some extent Bernie.  Jeb is saying what people want to hear.  Hitlery is establishment all the way, like Jeb.

Blacks are also not highly in favor of illegal immigrants.  Your mainstream D's and R's aren't for the people. They talk the talk but they don't walk the walk.

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    #21978902 - 07/22/15 04:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Has anyone seen the polling on Trump?  Word on the street he is getting a LOT of unexpected support by people one wouldn't suspect, like black males.  The reasoning is that people are absolutely fed up with D and R POLITICAL SPEECH.

The point is, people have lost family to illegal immigrants that shouldn't be here.  People have lost jobs because of them.  The politicians give more to people that are here illegally and that is a problem.  Illegal immigrants are illegal immigrants.  Period.  They are criminals just by being here illegally.

Like it or not, Trump, who is a blowhard, is resonating with a lot of people.  Bernie Sanders is resonating with some people, mostly people who are envious of people with wealth and want to punish people with money.  It is easy to get ground support when a good part of your platform is Freestuff.  That's basically my problem with Bernie.  My problem with Trump is he is  blowhard flipper.  Both parties are attacking Trump, and to some extent Bernie.  Jeb is saying what people want to hear.  Hitlery is establishment all the way, like Jeb.

Blacks are also not highly in favor of illegal immigrants.  Your mainstream D's and R's aren't for the people. They talk the talk but they don't walk the walk.

It's time for something different.




If you think there's a meaningful number of blacks flocking to Donald Trump, you simply don't know politics.  Look at his audiences, they are nearly 100% white.  Blacks are the most consistent base of the Democratic party and a guy like Trump is not going to change that.


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