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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #21934468 - 07/12/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Says the mad hatter


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21934520 - 07/12/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Says the mad hatter




Lmao :smile:


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #21935916 - 07/13/15 02:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know if he's in it to win it or just for publicity, but he's ranting about things that no other candidate would have the balls to even mention. This could possibly be a negative in the sense that his claims would be seen as false due to his arrogant nature in expressing it. I'm sure there are plenty of people who see him only as a character on the TV show apprentice and might take his stand on illegal immigration as fiction. I really hope he sticks around long enough to pull the wool off of more people's eyes by getting uninformed people interested to investigate these things themselves.

I kept hearing about a specific interview Trump did with the NBC reporter Katy Tur but haven't seen it until now. He may be a total narcissist, but it's refreshing to see him here taking control of the interview and calling it like he sees it. Interviews like this will not get old and is something you just can't get enough of for the entertainment value alone.

Here's the full half hour interview.



Katy Tur ain't half bad looking either.




While I'm at it here's the recent speech in Phoenix from Saturday.



Here it is in HD. Starts at the 1:44 mark.



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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21936325 - 07/13/15 08:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Trump is also a best selling author I just learned. It seems everything he touches turns to gold.

He is still bashing Mexicans which makes the left wing mad. But why should they get amnesty, welfare, social services, etc without paying any taxes and while they are illegal? We know obumble's motive, he wants them to vote dem. And the libs of course are against voter id. I wonder why?


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21936470 - 07/13/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I hope he gets more air time like he did in that NBC interview where he affirmed he was referring to ILLEGAL immigrants and not just every Mexican. The MSM has a tendency to amplify certain things out of context and he pointed that out in that interview. I know he's up against a monster with the media, but I think he sees how the game is played so far. Amnesty will be like every tax payer fully funding the breaking and entering for the illegals to come in and raid our fridge. It makes me sick just thinking about it.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Astral Pain]
    #21936525 - 07/13/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think Trump will, or should, win. He's an asshole.

That said, he's saying exactly what a great many are thinking. People want control of the borders.

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Monday, June 29, 2015

Most voters continue to believe the federal government is a supporter, not an opponent, of illegal immigration, and even more are in favor of imposing tougher sanctions on those who hire or rent property to those who are in this country illegally.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 55% of Likely U.S. Voters think the policies and practices of the federal government encourage people to enter the United States illegally, down just two points from March’s recent high. Twenty-eight percent (28%) disagree, while 17% are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

The survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on June 24-25, 2015 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.




http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/immigration_update


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Just 16% of Likely U.S. Voters think the U.S. government is too aggressive in deporting those who are in the country illegally. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 62% believe the government is not aggressive enough in deporting these illegal immigrants, up from 52% a year ago and 56% in November. Fifteen percent (15%) feel the current number of deportations is about right.




http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2015/04/07/poll-americans-want-deportations-for-illegal-immigrants-n1981771


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21936680 - 07/13/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

This news belongs in the conspiracy forum, but they seem to have found a route to silent Trump. I think it's pretty obvious at this point that the government is using twitter for various reasons, but this is takes the cake.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3159344/There-s-no-jail-big-midget-Mexico-s-billion-dollar-drugs-lord-gloats-Twitter-escaping-prison-shower-block-tunnel.html


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21936754 - 07/13/15 10:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'd rather have an honest asshole than a dishonest creep like we have now, and have had. And, it looks like we will be stuck with another one again.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21936794 - 07/13/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Its kind of wierd hiw trump has donated so much money to hitlery in the past yet biw he's suposedly funning against her.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Shins]
    #21936804 - 07/13/15 11:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

>he's suposedly funning against her.

Good one


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21936915 - 07/13/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Trump is also a best selling author I just learned. It seems everything he touches turns to gold.

He is still bashing Mexicans which makes the left wing mad. But why should they get amnesty, welfare, social services, etc without paying any taxes and while they are illegal? We know obumble's motive, he wants them to vote dem. And the libs of course are against voter id. I wonder why?




"We know obumble's motive, he wants them to vote dem"

I don't buy into that line of reasoning, why?  Because voting doesn't matter anymore. 

Why are all the Republicans also pro immigration now?  The people at the top want that big pool of labor in the US, it's not about votes, it's all about keeping wages down.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: qman]
    #21936937 - 07/13/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Why are all the Republicans also pro immigration now?




They aren't 'all'. Most who are, are simply grabbing at votes.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21936967 - 07/13/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Why are all the Republicans also pro immigration now?




They aren't 'all'. Most who are, are simply grabbing at votes.




Which ones want to enforce the current laws or protect the border? 

The fact of the matter is, big money is what drives the illegal immigration policy and they want all the labor they can get, liberals just jump on the bandwagon for all the wrong reasons.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Shins]
    #21936972 - 07/13/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Its kind of wierd hiw trump has donated so much money to hitlery in the past yet biw he's suposedly funning against her.




He adressed that already. He was in business and therefore he was donating money to everybody because it was part of the game.

I believe him. It is a game at this point. Plus Trump used a be a democrat back in the day


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Patlal]
    #21936980 - 07/13/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Also I watched his entire Arizona speech and I swear to god, I think his leaning towards universal healthcare.

If there 's one guy that can convince the conservative that universal health care is the way to go, its trump


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Patlal]
    #21937005 - 07/13/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe he's actually still a democrat in disguise.

He did make his fortune on the real estate bubble after all.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Patlal]
    #21937017 - 07/13/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Also I watched his entire Arizona speech and I swear to god, I think his leaning towards universal healthcare.

If there 's one guy that can convince the conservative that universal health care is the way to go, its trump




Who's going to convince the liberal Democrat that's bought and paid for by the health care lobbyists.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: qman]
    #21937076 - 07/13/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Also I watched his entire Arizona speech and I swear to god, I think his leaning towards universal healthcare.

If there 's one guy that can convince the conservative that universal health care is the way to go, its trump




Who's going to convince the liberal Democrat that's bought and paid for by the health care lobbyists.




The word "universal healthcare" should convince all the liberal. It's their ultimate goal...


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Patlal]
    #21937106 - 07/13/15 12:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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Also I watched his entire Arizona speech and I swear to god, I think his leaning towards universal healthcare.

If there 's one guy that can convince the conservative that universal health care is the way to go, its trump




Who's going to convince the liberal Democrat that's bought and paid for by the health care lobbyists.




The word "universal healthcare" should convince all the liberal. It's their ultimate goal...




Please tell us all the Democrats that stood up and said the ACA was a capitalist health care program and "universal health care" was the best solution, I will save you the effort, it never happened.

They are all bought and paid for, the US health care system is going to remain for profit, Obama is a sellout liar about the ACA.


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Re: So Trump started off badly but he's making more sense every day... [Re: Shins]
    #21937125 - 07/13/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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Patlal said:
Also I watched his entire Arizona speech and I swear to god, I think his leaning towards universal healthcare.

If there 's one guy that can convince the conservative that universal health care is the way to go, its trump




Who's going to convince the liberal Democrat that's bought and paid for by the health care lobbyists.




The word "universal healthcare" should convince all the liberal. It's their ultimate goal...




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Maybe he's actually still a democrat in disguise.

He did make his fortune on the real estate bubble after all.




You guys really need to stop mischaracterizing liberals. If this is what you really think of democrats, then I suppose, in all of your confusion, your support of Trump is understandable. This is why I'm a huge advocate for better education!


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