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Stonehenge
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Government Trolls
#21892823 - 07/03/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It seems that the rumors of govt paid shills and trolls on the internet are true. Nothing to do with national security, just trying to spread the propaganda and nullify the truth.
SOURCE: MICHAEL SNYDER
Have you ever come across someone on the Internet that you suspected was a paid government troll? Well, there is a very good chance that you were not imagining things. Thanks to Edward Snowden, we now have solid proof that paid government trolls are using “psychology-based influence techniques” on social media websites such as YouTube, Facebook and Twitter. Documents leaked by Snowden also reveal that government agents have been conducting denial-of-service attacks, flooding social media websites with thinly veiled propaganda and have been purposely attempting to warp public discourse online. If we do not stand up and object to this kind of Orwellian behavior, it is only going to get worse and worse.
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Stonehenge said: It seems that the rumors of govt paid shills and trolls on the internet are true. Nothing to do with national security, just trying to spread the propaganda and nullify the truth.
SOURCE: MICHAEL SNYDER
Have you ever come across someone on the Internet that you suspected was a paid government troll? Well, there is a very good chance that you were not imagining things. Thanks to Edward Snowden, we now have solid proof that paid government trolls are using “psychology-based influence techniques” on social media websites such as YouTube, Facebook and Twitter. Documents leaked by Snowden also reveal that government agents have been conducting denial-of-service attacks, flooding social media websites with thinly veiled propaganda and have been purposely attempting to warp public discourse online. If we do not stand up and object to this kind of Orwellian behavior, it is only going to get worse and worse.
That is their way to make sure to keep people dumb and ignorant.
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Stonehenge said: It seems that the rumors of govt paid shills and trolls on the internet are true. Nothing to do with national security, just trying to spread the propaganda and nullify the truth.
SOURCE: MICHAEL SNYDER
Have you ever come across someone on the Internet that you suspected was a paid government troll? Well, there is a very good chance that you were not imagining things. Thanks to Edward Snowden, we now have solid proof that paid government trolls are using “psychology-based influence techniques” on social media websites such as YouTube, Facebook and Twitter. Documents leaked by Snowden also reveal that government agents have been conducting denial-of-service attacks, flooding social media websites with thinly veiled propaganda and have been purposely attempting to warp public discourse online. If we do not stand up and object to this kind of Orwellian behavior, it is only going to get worse and worse.
Links? Are you telling me that Enlil really IS a government shill? Fuck, I fuckin knew it!
Wait a minute, Stoney, be honest here... Are YOU a government shill?
How do I get on government payroll for shilling? Shillings for shilling!!! Does it come with a pension, and one of those fancy pants insurance plans?
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Stonehenge said: It seems that the rumors of govt paid shills and trolls on the internet are true. Nothing to do with national security, just trying to spread the propaganda and nullify the truth.
SOURCE: MICHAEL SNYDER
Have you ever come across someone on the Internet that you suspected was a paid government troll? Well, there is a very good chance that you were not imagining things. Thanks to Edward Snowden, we now have solid proof that paid government trolls are using “psychology-based influence techniques” on social media websites such as YouTube, Facebook and Twitter. Documents leaked by Snowden also reveal that government agents have been conducting denial-of-service attacks, flooding social media websites with thinly veiled propaganda and have been purposely attempting to warp public discourse online. If we do not stand up and object to this kind of Orwellian behavior, it is only going to get worse and worse.
Links? Are you telling me that Enlil really IS a government shill? Fuck, I fuckin knew it!
Wait a minute, Stoney, be honest here... Are YOU a government shill?
How do I get on government payroll for shilling? Shillings for shilling!!! Does it come with a pension, and one of those fancy pants insurance plans?
How Do I Get Paid To Be An On-Line Troll!? One of the recurrent conspiracy theories you'll see in online discussions is that certain posters are actually paid trolls--agents of some nefarious force whose day job is actually to come to your forum and post inflammatory things that push all your buttons! Read here for an example! If someone you don't know makes comments on facebook group pages supporting whaling or sealing, it is most likely an employee of a government. We have for a long time known but could not prove that the postings by various names that appear time and time again are from people paid to post comments in favor of the killing of seals, dolphins, whales and other animals. Now we have proof. This Canadian Press story details how the Canadian government has hired firms to monitor online forums and to post propaganda supporting the slaughter of these animals. This sounds pretty good, honestly--how do I get this sweet work-from-home job? Is this even real? Who's doing it? Are those posters who make you rage-stroke actually nefarious hired hit-jobs? Who's behind this? And most importantly: how much does it pay?
In China the answer is apparently: 50-cents per post. Here is an interview (quoted in Reason magazine) with one of these paid-trolls. http://politicalomnivore.blogspot.com/2012/02/how-do-i-get-paid-to-be-on-line-troll.html
Well the politicians did said that they were going to create jobs.
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so if i go around telling people i support the seal harvesting industry for free, i will be undermining a chinese person's wage?
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Re: Government Trolls [Re: ballsalsa]
#21899091 - 07/04/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: so if i go around telling people i support the seal harvesting industry for free, i will be undermining a chinese person's wage?
You might...., But if you are looking for a job, here's an application-
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Re: Government Trolls [Re: ballsalsa]
#21899120 - 07/04/15 11:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: so if i go around telling people i support the seal harvesting industry for free, i will be undermining a chinese person's wage?
Yes. I've decided not to post political comments anymore. Those poor people in the 3rd world gotta make a living somehow!
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Responsible Seal Harvesting
When people talk about saving baby seals, what they are really proposing is killing jobs. Ecoterrorists would have you believe that they care about the feelings of animals who are probably going to get eaten by orcas or sharks anyway. What they actually want is for the hardworking men and women of the seal harvesting industry to become unemployed welfare recipients so that they can gain some more dependent voters to bolster their leftist cause. Thomas Moore, the true father of communism, also found hunting and slaughter of animals to be distasteful, so you can see that this agenda goes all the way back to the 16th century! How long are they gonna keep trying to push this liberal animal rights agenda on an unwilling public? you would think that these socialist bullies would get the message after 500 years!
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Re: Government Trolls [Re: ballsalsa]
#21899169 - 07/04/15 11:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: Responsible Seal Harvesting
When people talk about saving baby seals, what they are really proposing is killing jobs. Ecoterrorists would have you believe that they care about the feelings of animals who are probably going to get eaten by orcas or sharks anyway. What they actually want is for the hardworking men and women of the seal harvesting industry to become unemployed welfare recipients so that they can gain some more dependent voters to bolster their leftist cause. Thomas Moore, the true father of communism, also found hunting and slaughter of animals to be distasteful, so you can see that this agenda goes all the way back to the 16th century! How long are they gonna keep trying to push this liberal animal rights agenda on an unwilling public? you would think that these socialist bullies would get the message after 500 years!
Priceless. I needed a good laugh! lmao
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Re: Government Trolls [Re: ballsalsa]
#21899180 - 07/04/15 11:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: Responsible Seal Harvesting
When people talk about saving baby seals, what they are really proposing is killing jobs. Ecoterrorists would have you believe that they care about the feelings of animals who are probably going to get eaten by orcas or sharks anyway. What they actually want is for the hardworking men and women of the seal harvesting industry to become unemployed welfare recipients so that they can gain some more dependent voters to bolster their leftist cause. Thomas Moore, the true father of communism, also found hunting and slaughter of animals to be distasteful, so you can see that this agenda goes all the way back to the 16th century! How long are they gonna keep trying to push this liberal animal rights agenda on an unwilling public? you would think that these socialist bullies would get the message after 500 years!
Well maybe that explain why there has been many shark attacks against human, it is because there aren't many baby seals for them to eat. But then, there's an island that is nearby that they does genetically engineering to produce strange animals to add to our food supply that doesn't look appetizing to eat, that they dumped them into the ocean and causing the sharks to come and search for food along the shorelines.
The "Montauk Monster" was an animal carcass, thought to be a raccoon,[1][2] that washed ashore on a beach near the business district of Montauk, New York in July 2008.[3][4] The identity of the creature and the veracity of stories surrounding it have been the subject of controversy and speculation. It is not known what happened to the carcass, it was said to be taken, and mysteriously disappeared. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montauk_Monster
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I'm sure he Koch bros (and their billionaire buddies) have plenty of paid internet shills of their own.
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Re: Government Trolls [Re: Le_Canard]
#21900286 - 07/05/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i'll take my $0.50 now
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Re: Government Trolls [Re: Le_Canard]
#21900460 - 07/05/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Le_Canard said: I'm sure he Koch bros (and their billionaire buddies) have plenty of paid internet shills of their own.
I know Donald Trump paid a bunch of movie extras to go to his presidential bid announcement.
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Disqus is crawling with them. It'll make your head spin and it seems as if they all have the same troll training. Even if you're just posting to shoot the shit while having a sound familiarity of the crowd at hand, anyone who posts a mere generalization of a matter of fact might find a swarm of idiots replying with demands to provide a source.
It's like bot accounts that loop the same replies demanding sources and more often than not one is supplied, but that just leads to a dispute about the website the source came from. I have witnessed this tactic countless times, and it pollutes the board with pointless babble while irritating the hell out of any user who had gotten themselves sucked into the vortex.
It appears the strategy is Order out of Chaos.
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AP, you are right. They present no rational argument but say you are wrong. When you give sources they sneer at them as if that makes them go away or invalidates an argument. They give usually unsupported statements but ask you for sources.
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Nowadays, anyone can find an internet site that backs up any ludicrous claim. That's why there are more conspiracy nutters than ever. It's sad that no one taught these people how to think critically. Instead, they come up with an idea that they want to believe, and they seek confirmation on the internet.
That's pretty much the opposite of critical thinking, though.
If one puts blinders on to adverse information, one can find plenty of "sources" to back up crazy theories from 9/11 controlled demo theories to chemtrails. An objective look clearly shows these to be fairy tales, but if you want to find a unicorn bad enough, you'll find one...even if it isn't real.
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They're either very uninformed or misinformed. Or both. Or trolls. I think they may be all of those. They could be the former without proper search engine skills and the need for someone to tell them how to think.
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Astral Pain said: They're either very uninformed or misinformed. Or both. Or trolls. I think they may be all of those. They could be the former without proper search engine skills and the need for someone to tell them how to think.
You just described the loony left.
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That quote may have a future in my signature. I think if asked my description of a liberal, I would have rambled on far longer than my description of disqus trolls.
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I think it's important for people to understand what sort of comment requires a source in the first place. I don't think a source is required when you are giving a personal opinion, when you're not making an argument or any sort of positive claim, or when it's a common knowledge subject, like whether or not George W Bush was president at one point in time.
It's mostly important when you are arguing against someone else's point and particularly when you're invoking the conclusion of a research paper, or making a very specific point based on outside material. If you're going to say 'scientists say ____', or bring up little known historical facts, you better have some supporting evidence.
I even see people on here ask for sources when someone is just making a statement of their personal opinion, in which case they themselves are the source! lol
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