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Re: Who is Hitler? [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #21892188 - 07/03/15 11:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Let's start with the fact the Vatican declared itself neutral during the Second World War. The self proclaimed bastions of gods morality didn't take a position on genocide.


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Re: Who is Hitler? [Re: Asante]
    #21892200 - 07/03/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

At the very minimum, 2/3 of the nazis were catholic or lutheran, the Vatican could of had a major impact on what happened but chose to stay quiet/stay neutral and the churches that didn't stay quiet spoke out in favor of destroying the ones that were responsible for the death of their lord. The jews.


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Re: Who is Hitler? [Re: Asante]
    #21892201 - 07/03/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't even remember WW2 getting more than a mention in any history class while I was in school. I learned way more about it from watching TV and talking to old people. The problem is that kids these days are wasting all their damn time posting selfies on facebook, when they should be wasting their time in front of a TV watching the history channel.
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Re: Who is Hitler? [Re: Asante]
    #21892208 - 07/03/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Back then a lot of people listened to the Vatican. They could have protested the rise of Nazism and Fascism and be taken down for the war, to pick up the pieces and go on after the war.

The Vatican should have thrown itself in harm's way like Jesus did. Instead they chose to look the other way and let it happen, and they had more information on it than the allies. Their network of churches and parishes would have been excellent to aid in the defeat of the faces of the Devil in their days.

But yes, the Nazis did it, no doubt about that.



Do you really think that anything the Vatican could have said would have had any impact at all on the Nazis?  They didn't give a fuck what anybody thought.


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Re: Who is Hitler? [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #21892209 - 07/03/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Jesus hung out in the slums helping poor people, the Vatican and the pope sit around in golden palaces living like kings while using a bulletproof shield to protect their faith.

Granted this latest pope seems to be the best they've ever had and somewhat admirable who seems like he guineuinly wants to help people.


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Re: Who is Hitler? [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #21892214 - 07/03/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They could have helped the resistance.


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Re: Who is Hitler? [Re: koods]
    #21892217 - 07/03/15 11:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Let's start with the fact the Vatican declared itself neutral during the Second World War. The self proclaimed bastions of gods morality didn't take a position on genocide.



What could they say?  Do you know where the Vatican is?  ROME!  ITALY!  NAZI ALLY!


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Re: Who is Hitler? [Re: Asante]
    #21892220 - 07/03/15 11:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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They could have helped the resistance.



How?


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Re: Who is Hitler? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21892227 - 07/03/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The majority of nazis followed their teachings, they could have probably done a lot just by speaking in oppositon towards.what the nazi regime was doing.

They're supposed to be devout aren't they, so them being killed trying to do good shouldn't of prevented them since theyd go to heaven with their lord.


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Re: Who is Hitler? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #21892235 - 07/03/15 11:32 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Do you really think they would have listened?  I also believe Germany is mostly Protestant


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Re: Who is Hitler? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21892244 - 07/03/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They had a worldwide network of a central authority branching out to churches and parishes in every city and town. They had wealth that rivaled a nation. They could have found a whole lot of Jews shelter from the holocaust and aided the armed resistance in their work of obstructing the occupying forces.


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Re: Who is Hitler? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21892248 - 07/03/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Who is Hitler? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21892269 - 07/03/15 11:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Do you really think they would have listened?  I also believe Germany is mostly Protestant




Not every one of them, but enough that their forces wouldn't of nearly been as powerful. If people think their lord thinks what they are doing is wrong, they're more prone to not doing it. The reverse is just as true, if they think they're doing what God wants, they're more likely to do it. Like killing the people responsible for the death of their lord, or strapping bombs to their chset and blowing people up, because that's what God wold want in their minds.


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Re: Who is Hitler? [Re: SirShroomsAlott] * 2
    #21892274 - 07/03/15 11:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Most of the people who do know of Hitler don't really know of Mussolini, who killed like 3 times the amount as Hitler but since it wasn't over a wider area those lives are considered less significant.




LOL

If you think Mussolini led a genocide that killed over 18 million people, you obviously don't know who he is either.  You're just as ignorant as Almond Flour's family, or maybe worse because you just make up the information you don't know rather than just admitting you don't know it.

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Re: Who is Hitler? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21892281 - 07/03/15 11:44 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Do you really think they would have listened?  I also believe Germany is mostly Protestant




the Nazi movement originated in southern Germany which is catholic.


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Re: Who is Hitler? [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #21892286 - 07/03/15 11:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hitler was one of the greatest speakers and leader of the time.

He was a jerk though.


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Re: Who is Hitler? [Re: koods]
    #21892292 - 07/03/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

most of the Nazi high ranking officials were catholic and operated from the Bavarian alps which is almost entirely a Catholic area.


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Re: Who is Hitler? [Re: koods]
    #21892301 - 07/03/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They still had to be elected by the people who were Protestant


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Re: Who is Hitler? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21892311 - 07/03/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Germany is a lot less protestant than you think.

Percentage of catholic population



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Re: Who is Hitler? [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #21892328 - 07/03/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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SirShroomsAlott said:

Most of the people who do know of Hitler don't really know of Mussolini, who killed like 3 times the amount as Hitler but since it wasn't over a wider area those lives are considered less significant.




LOL

If you think Mussolini led a genocide that killed over 18 million people, you obviously don't know who he is either.  You're just as ignorant as Almond Flour's family, or maybe worse because you just make up the information you don't know rather than just admitting you don't know it.

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18 million? 60 something million while Mussolini was in control....18 million...you're pretty fucking dumb if you think Hitler only killed 6 million jews and got 18 by multiplying it by 3, he killed way more..around 20 million I believe, but still not as much as Stalin or mussolini.

Edit...about 11 million by hitler...upwards of 40 something by Stalin and the ussr...and somewhere around 60 for mussolini


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