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New Poll 47% would vote for a Socialist * 1
    #21890524 - 07/02/15 10:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/183713/socialist-presidential-candidates-least-appealing.aspx

I guess I'm in the slight minority. Whatup, bitches!?! Sorry, my conservative friends, I don't have a poll for 'Fascist'. ;-)

Frank Luntz, a Republican pollster, told Republicans to "Stop using the word 'Capitalism', it only does you damage!"

I'm seeing red, and soon, so will all of you ;-)


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Re: New Poll 47% would vote for a Socialist [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #21890617 - 07/02/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

aw hell.

The times they are a changin. Slightly for the better, for once.


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Re: New Poll 47% would vote for a Socialist [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #21891466 - 07/03/15 06:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Go Bernie


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Re: New Poll 47% would vote for a Socialist [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #21891981 - 07/03/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

47%.....HMMMMMMM.......where haVE I heard that number before? :smirk:


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Re: New Poll 47% would vote for a Socialist [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #21892035 - 07/03/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Calling Doctor Gallop, Doctor Sesame, Doctor Gallop.



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    #21940613 - 07/14/15 04:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: New Poll 47% would vote for a Socialist [Re: BlackWidow]
    #21940727 - 07/14/15 05:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Taxes


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Re: New Poll 47% would vote for a Socialist [Re: BlackWidow]
    #21940829 - 07/14/15 07:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

BlackWidow said:
I like free things, don't get me wrong, but where will this money to pay for all these things come from?




I'm so tired of this "socialism = free stuff" equivocation.

Read a damn book.


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Re: New Poll 47% would vote for a Socialist [Re: sweeper54] * 1
    #21941037 - 07/14/15 08:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

>Taxes

In other words, take away what the workers produce and give it to the bums who produce nothing but hordes of brats for us to take care of. Business has already fled the country rather than be raped, many of the workers are doing the same or going underground. No wonder we are having such a hard time with this 'gimme free stuff' mentality.


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Re: New Poll 47% would vote for a Socialist [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #21941155 - 07/14/15 08:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's not taking from the producers to give to leeches. It's a different way of financing things that we all use. And theres evidence to suggest it's more cost-effective to do it that way, for example, the cost of healthcare per capita in this country versus other countries.


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Re: New Poll 47% would vote for a Socialist [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #21941311 - 07/14/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

because the money is much better spent on our enormous war machine?

Why is everybody so opposed to the government providing services with taxes? free stuff is such a dirty word. Why else are they collecting all this money if not to serve you?


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Re: New Poll 47% would vote for a Socialist [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #21941378 - 07/14/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If the govt spent the money at all wisely very few would be opposed. But the govt is the opposite of wise, it gives the loot to cronies (obumble) or to finance stupid wars and terrorist operations against civilians that they laughingly call militants (obumble) or hand it to the industry that gives the biggest bribes.

Its like the bum that comes up and starts smearing your windshield with his dirty rag and demanding a payoff from you for his services.


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Re: New Poll 47% would vote for a Socialist [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21941425 - 07/14/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Taxes don't come even close to covering spending.


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Re: New Poll 47% would vote for a Socialist [Re: Shins]
    #21941926 - 07/14/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That means 53% are conservatives.

Socialism is losing... again...


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Re: New Poll 47% would vote for a Socialist [Re: Patlal]
    #21941966 - 07/14/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Its a lie


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Re: New Poll 47% would vote for a Socialist [Re: Patlal]
    #21942105 - 07/14/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Patlal said:
That means 53% are conservatives.

Socialism is losing... again...





Soialism is a loser system for loser people.  Of course socialism is losing, it always loses and the people always end up losers, just look at greece.


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Re: New Poll 47% would vote for a Socialist [Re: Shins]
    #21942111 - 07/14/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You need socialism. But not full scale. To keep the Conservatives honest and vice versa


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Re: New Poll 47% would vote for a Socialist [Re: Patlal]
    #21942121 - 07/14/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Socialists need to be honest with themselves before even thinking about making capitalists honest.  I'd docialists were honest, they'd probably be Capitalists.


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Re: New Poll 47% would vote for a Socialist [Re: Shins]
    #21942125 - 07/14/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What's dishonest about believing that poor people need to be treated well?


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Re: New Poll 47% would vote for a Socialist [Re: Patlal]
    #21942141 - 07/14/15 01:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Stealing money to give to the poor is not honest,  theft is dishonest. 

Also socialism creates poverty, its a feedbavk loop.


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