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ISIS: What are we waiting for?
    #21890467 - 07/02/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Let's be honest, ISIS isn't going to just disappear or stop causing havoc unless the civilized world stops them. They are going to continue to grow and become stronger. The longer we wait to take action the more lives that will be lost in the current and long run. For instance ISIS just executed 73 children and will continue to kill thousands of innocent people. I don't understand Obama's stance on this situation. He's said that they don't have a plan for like 6 months now. It seems like we could wipe out the majority of ISIS within a month of good air strikes. This would really hurt their recruiting too because people would see just how weak they truly are in the grand scheme of things.

So what's it going to take for us to finally step in and shut these clowns down? I honestly think it's going to take another attack at home. It's sad that we'd have to wait for something like this to happen before we finally say enough is enough. ISIS is literally trying to commit genocide on the entire world.

I'll end this by saying I'm not some fear monger. I'm just pointing out the inevitable. ISIS isn't going to go away without someone making them. I'd rather do it early and save thousands of extra lives than wait until they finally successfully orchestrate an attack on us and the public outcry sends us into battle.


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Re: ISIS: What are we waiting for? [Re: Magicman69] * 1
    #21890478 - 07/02/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Go ahead and type "The US Created" into google and see what the first autofill suggests.


That's why we're "waiting"


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Re: ISIS: What are we waiting for? [Re: Psychonautica] * 2
    #21890484 - 07/02/15 10:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm aware the USA had a role in creating ISIS. Are you suggesting that they knew this would end up happening and that was the plan all along?


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Re: ISIS: What are we waiting for? [Re: Magicman69] * 1
    #21890495 - 07/02/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

its not like it hasn't happened before, you think they would have learned from bin laden


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Re: ISIS: What are we waiting for? [Re: Magicman69] * 2
    #21890511 - 07/02/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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makaveli8x8 said:
its not like it hasn't happened before, you think they would have learned from bin laden



Basically.
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Magicman69 said:
I'm aware the USA had a role in creating ISIS. Are you suggesting that they knew this would end up happening and that was the plan all along?




How many terror groups do we need to create, fund, and arm before you realize this is them doing it?

9/11 fear mongering is over, and the government needs a new way to pass laws to take away our rights.

Creating isis and a big bad scary middle eastern boogieman is a good way to pass more "patriot acts" and take away our rights.


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Re: ISIS: What are we waiting for? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21890557 - 07/02/15 10:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have a hard time believing that is the reason but I'm not really a conspiracy guy. I'm sure it's a nice side effect but honestly what does the government really gain by mass surveillance? It's not like they're in danger of being overthrown by some revolution.


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Re: ISIS: What are we waiting for? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21890587 - 07/02/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Psychonautica said:
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makaveli8x8 said:
its not like it hasn't happened before, you think they would have learned from bin laden



Basically.
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Magicman69 said:
I'm aware the USA had a role in creating ISIS. Are you suggesting that they knew this would end up happening and that was the plan all along?




How many terror groups do we need to create, fund, and arm before you realize this is them doing it?

9/11 fear mongering is over, and the government needs a new way to pass laws to take away our rights.

Creating isis and a big bad scary middle eastern boogieman is a good way to pass more "patriot acts" and take away our rights.




That's assuming that attacks on U.S. soil are imminant. It seems to me that this is only a small portion of genocides occuring and is simply 'not our problem' until further notice. I'm honestly suprised we haven't increased military spending to keep this wildfire from spreading and starting up that good 'ol lucrative business.


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Re: ISIS: What are we waiting for? [Re: Magicman69] * 2
    #21890590 - 07/02/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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It's not like they're in danger of being overthrown by some revolution.




Look the fuck around you dude. Yes they are. How many people are happy with the way the government is performing recently? Nobody.

We'll see a revolution in our life times, the only question is will it be peaceful, or will it be violent.

My guess is the latter.


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Re: ISIS: What are we waiting for? [Re: AGUARES]
    #21890596 - 07/02/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

See that's the wrong attitude in my opinion. "It's not our problem until further notice." It gets to the point of this thread which is that ISIS won't go away until we make it our problem. I'd rather do it now while they are still in somewhat infancy than let them terrorize and kill the region for a couple more years or hit us in one way or another.

Honestly it already is our problem. It's all over the news about a potential attack July 4th. Some people will not go do their usual 4th of July parades and such because of this threat. If it's effecting our sense of security at home it is our problem.


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Re: ISIS: What are we waiting for? [Re: Magicman69]
    #21890605 - 07/02/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Where the heck in america do you live where you have any sense of safety or security?

It's either false, or you own a lot of fucking firearms.


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Re: ISIS: What are we waiting for? [Re: Psychonautica] * 1
    #21890607 - 07/02/15 11:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I am quite suspicious that some institution like the FBI/CIA is still running groups like ISIS and al queda. (assuming that either of those groups REALLY exists)

Fear of terrorism has thrust the government into a position of even more power. If I ran the US, I could see staging terrorist action to scare the masses into giving me more power.

Seems like a no brainer actually. Just like how 9/11 was staged for similar reasons.

:tinfoil:


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Re: ISIS: What are we waiting for? [Re: Psychonautica] * 1
    #21890608 - 07/02/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Any individual or group that poses a 'threat' to US interests are considered a terrorist in Uncle Sam's eyes.

I have lost faith in what the media reports especially after the invasion of Iraq.


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Re: ISIS: What are we waiting for? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21890613 - 07/02/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Psychonautica said:
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Magicman69 said:
It's not like they're in danger of being overthrown by some revolution.




Look the fuck around you dude. Yes they are. How many people are happy with the way the government is performing recently? Nobody.

We'll see a revolution in our life times, the only question is will it be peaceful, or will it be violent.

My guess is the latter.



I think there will be a political revolution or renaissance in our lifetime but not a violent revolution. Honestly were already seeing this with things like gay marriage and weed legalization. I only see this trend continuing. We might be in the renaissance right now and not even know about it.


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Re: ISIS: What are we waiting for? [Re: Magicman69] * 1
    #21890615 - 07/02/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You're flip flopping a lot in this thread man..

Are you a politician?:lol:


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Re: ISIS: What are we waiting for? [Re: Magicman69]
    #21890618 - 07/02/15 11:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i understand gay marriage, but why would people start a revolution over weed getting legalized?


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Re: ISIS: What are we waiting for? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21890628 - 07/02/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What I meant by my first comment was that it's not like our leadership is going to be overthrown physically. I guess the point your making is that if our values change they're basically overthrown anyways but just not physically.


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Re: ISIS: What are we waiting for? [Re: Psychonautica]
    #21890633 - 07/02/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The hatred of the current governing systems will propel us toward a new form of governance. Much like how hatred of Europe's governing system propelled us toward 'democracy,' in the 1700's

that is my hope/prediction at least


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Re: ISIS: What are we waiting for? [Re: Magicman69]
    #21890640 - 07/02/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You don't have to physically mutiny, to mutiny.

If we change the way our government runs and operates, and take away some of their power (which needs to be done)

Then we overthrew them, yeah. It doesn't have to even be a huge change, it could be something small.

Even the tiniest spark of revolution is a revolution nonetheless. And a spark can turn into a raging inferno really damn quick.


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Re: ISIS: What are we waiting for? [Re: Magicman69]
    #21890654 - 07/02/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I say leave the US out of it. I'm tired of the consant war as we try and play referee with the rest of the world.

I also don't know what the hell gives you the impression we could just so simply wipe them out. We've basically been trying to wipe out the Taliban (or that's the story anyways) for at least the last 14 years, look at what a miraculous job we did with that.


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Re: ISIS: What are we waiting for? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21890665 - 07/02/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The Taliban live in caves and are widely spread. They're hard to spot for airstrikes and even harder to fight on foot. ISIS is driving around in our hummers with big flags hanging from them. We know exactly where they are and which cities they are staying in. 


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