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Deviate
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Man I can't pick a trip. Anyone else have this trouble? Help me decide?
#21890411 - 07/02/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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So I've friday off for the holidy and I am thinking I will trip this weekend but I am finding it so difficult to decide whether I should trip cactus or trip mushroom.
sadly I can trip mushroom any old weekend whereas cactus lasts so long its a bit more cumbersome. I tripped cactus last weekend, I drank the cactus saturday night and I was still tripping slightly at work on monday morning. Not so much so that I couldnt work well but I just felt so tired, so heavy, so burnt out I didnt recover til wedneday.
My question is, will I be able to trip cactus again or is too soon? Sometimes I feel like I can just trip cactus forever, it makes me feel so good whereas I would never want to trip mushroom forever. Would mushrooms be less of a tolerance issue?
I feel more in the mood for mushrooms this weekend but like I said, i can trip mushroom whenever but it is rare I have the ability to set aside 3 day to trip cactus.
So what should I do? Trip cactus or trip mushroom? This is what I hate about having multiple psychedelics in my possession at the same time. I always second guess myself about which one to trip on.
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Re: Man I can't pick a trip. Anyone else have this trouble? Help me decide? [Re: Deviate]
#21890506 - 07/02/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would say it depends on dosage and plans for the trip. What would make this weekend most memorable for you? Would it be an equal experience for you with mushrooms?
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Re: Man I can't pick a trip. Anyone else have this trouble? Help me decide? [Re: Deviate]
#21890539 - 07/02/15 10:50 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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hOw about u make a poll? 
And the vots of the people will descide! 
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Re: Man I can't pick a trip. Anyone else have this trouble? Help me decide? [Re: Deviate]
#21890551 - 07/02/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Imo, it's always more rewarding to go with what you feel like, it sets a good mood for the trip. There's nothing worse than wasting drugs by doing something that you didn't really want to do just because you had the opportunity. Especially when you're dealing with substances like mescaline or LSD, where you're potentially setting yourself up for a 12 hour disappointing or unpleasant trip.
I say go for the shrooms and save the cactus for later. Or you could always do both. I don't think psilocin and mescaline are cross tolerant.
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Re: Man I can't pick a trip. Anyone else have this trouble? Help me decide? [Re: AGUARES]
#21890552 - 07/02/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm on the same boat bro. Will you be solo tripping or chillin with some friends?
I just picked my first flush from 4 cakes a friend gave me but I also have 3ft of cactus that I boiled last week. I'm leaning towards 4g of mushies though.
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Re: Man I can't pick a trip. Anyone else have this trouble? Help me decide? [Re: Starless]
#21890651 - 07/02/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Starless said: Imo, it's always more rewarding to go with what you feel like, it sets a good mood for the trip. There's nothing worse than wasting drugs by doing something that you didn't really want to do just because you had the opportunity. Especially when you're dealing with substances like mescaline or LSD, where you're potentially setting yourself up for a 12 hour disappointing or unpleasant trip.
I say go for the shrooms and save the cactus for later. Or you could always do both. I don't think psilocin and mescaline are cross tolerant.
Solo tripping.
I have thought bout doing both but i think it might be too much for the old nervous system if you know what I mean.
I mean last weekend I tripped cactus right after a major DMT breakthouugh experience. Then I smoked more DMT and hash while tripping cactus. It was a great trip but I felt like it was very hard on my poor old brain, which has been exposed so many deadly and dangerous drugs (as well as the good ones) over the years.
With each successive DMT blastoff I noticed they were beginning to feel less profound and my brain was beginning to feel very fried, so I decided to lay off the deems for a little while. I fear the same thing might happen if I decided to trip mushroom and cactus in the same weekend.
I love the positive mindstate push of the cactus and the profound emotions. Yeah, cactus is my favorite psychedelic. But mushrooms are so much more gentle on the body and shorter lasting and so awesome in their own way.
Question for people experienced in both: anyone feel like mushroom trips are more variable?
I have only tripped cactus 3 times and unlike other psychedelics, I find I get a lot of the same feelings with cactus each time I take it whereas with mushrooms, aside from a few big commonalities, two successive trips can feel so totally different.
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Re: Man I can't pick a trip. Anyone else have this trouble? Help me decide? [Re: Deviate]
#21890886 - 07/03/15 12:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you really can't decide, you could always just do lowish doses of both. Cacti and fungi go great together. If you do that, definitely start with the cacti, though. Then decide if you want to add some mushrooms to the mix.
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Re: Man I can't pick a trip. Anyone else have this trouble? Help me decide? [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
#21890927 - 07/03/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Can you describe the combination? I have never combined two long acting psychedelic drugs before. I have always been afraid that that was somehow being wasteful or like combining green beans with ice cream, both great foods on their own but not going very well together. but maybe I am wrong.
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Re: Man I can't pick a trip. Anyone else have this trouble? Help me decide? [Re: Deviate] 1
#21891020 - 07/03/15 01:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Actually, I've done this twice, and I loved it.
A little mushrooms help take you much deeper with a smaller amount of cactus. The synergy is great. Mescaline was the dominant flavor, for sure. The mushrooms rounded out what would have been a ++ cactus trip into a +++ / borderline ++++ very colorful and visual experience
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Re: Man I can't pick a trip. Anyone else have this trouble? Help me decide? [Re: Deviate]
#21891063 - 07/03/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It has been a long time since I have done that, and it is hard for me to describe psychedelic drugs in general. It is a great combination in my opinion, though. It is a very natural, earthy feeling trip.
I remember having really nice visuals that reminded me of mayan-esque/central american textile patterns on surfaces at one point. As far as psychedelic combos go, I would say its one of the best. Honestly, I prefer to eat mushrooms in combination with other psychedelics. By themselves, mushrooms are very emotional for me.
Mushrooms themselves just tends to bring me up and down very fast. Sometimes I also get pretty intense existential thoughts during mushrooms trips that can turn dark sometimes. When I am already tripping on acid or mescaline, I don't really have this problem. It's like it eases me in and out of the experience more gently.
If I were doing that combo though, IMO, it is essential to eat the cacti before the fungi. The cacti will last much longer. One option might be to take a nice moderate to lowish cacti dose, and then wait a few hours. If you are feeling like you want to get a little trippier, eat a little bit of the mushrooms. If it was me, I would maybe eat like a gram or so of mushrooms.
I tend to think of adding in the mushrooms as an enhancement to the cacti trip. Sort of like smoking pot during the cacti trip, but a little more trippy. Unless you eat the mushrooms really late in the cactus trip, you will always feel the cactus longer than the mushrooms, IMO.
I should also probably say that I probably tend to take lower doses of mushrooms than a lot of people on this site.
I'm talking like .5-2 grams or so. I'm definitely not suggesting you should do a big dose of cactus and then eat an 1/8 of mushrooms. IMO 1/8 of mushrooms is a pretty big dose. I know a lot of people consider that to be the starting point, though. Not me.
I guess some people maybe would consider this pretty intense. IMO it's not really anymore intense than taking a high dose of one in particular. If you have been around here since 2003, I'm sure you know what you are doing, though.
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Re: Man I can't pick a trip. Anyone else have this trouble? Help me decide? [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
#21891097 - 07/03/15 01:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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FlyOnTheWall said: It has been a long time since I have done that, and it is hard for me to describe psychedelic drugs in general. It is a great combination in my opinion, though. It is a very natural, earthy feeling trip.
I remember having really nice visuals that reminded me of mayan-esque/central american textile patterns and stuff on stuff at one point. As far as psychedelic combos go, I would say its one of the best. Honestly, I prefer to eat mushrooms in combination with other psychedelics. By themselves, mushrooms are very emotional for me.
Mushrooms themselves just tends to bring me up and down very fast. Sometimes I also get pretty intense existential thoughts during mushrooms trips that can turn dark sometimes. When I am already tripping on acid or mescaline, I don't really have this problem. It's like it eases me in and out of the experience more gently.
If I were doing that combo though, IMO, it is essential to eat the cacti before the fungi. The cacti will last much longer. One option might be to take a nice moderate to lowish cacti dose, and then wait a few hours. If you are feeling like you want to get a little trippier, eat a little bit of the mushrooms. If it was me, I would maybe eat like a gram or so of mushrooms.
I tend to think of adding in the mushrooms as an enhancement to the cacti trip. Sort of like smoking pot during the cacti trip, but a little more trippy. Unless you eat the mushrooms really late in the cactus trip, you will always feel the cactus longer than the mushrooms, IMO.
I should also probably say that I probably tend to take lower doses of mushrooms than a lot of people on this site.
I'm talking like .5-2 grams or so. I'm definitely not suggesting you should do a big dose of cactus and then eat an 1/8 of mushrooms. IMO 1/8 of mushrooms is a pretty big dose. I know a lot of people consider that to be the starting point, though. Not me.
I guess some people maybe would consider this pretty intense. IMO it's not really anymore intense than taking a high dose of one in particular. If you have been around here since 2003, I'm sure you know what you are doing, though.
I agree with everything you said.
Including dose. When I did this, I ate about 1.5 grams mushrooms with an unknown amount of cactus tar. And definitely ate the cactus a couple hours before the mushrooms. My friends and I repeated this trip a second time with more of each (didn't weigh mushrooms or cactus :-O), and it got pretty intense. The mescaline was definitely dominant in both experiences. The first time we were talkative and sharp-witted and very euphoric, we talked for hours about everything and it was a very good social trip. The second time we were too far gone to talk much, or stand up. Gravity was playing tricks on us and the mescaline had us soaring through space as we laid on the floor trying to beat the nausea. I felt like benicio del toro in the circus circus scene in fear and loathing in las vegas. The visuals were very colorful and out of this world.
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Re: Man I can't pick a trip. Anyone else have this trouble? Help me decide? [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
#21891111 - 07/03/15 01:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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FlyOnTheWall said: It has been a long time since I have done that, and it is hard for me to describe psychedelic drugs in general. It is a great combination in my opinion, though. It is a very natural, earthy feeling trip.
I remember having really nice visuals that reminded me of mayan-esque/central american textile patterns and stuff on stuff at one point. As far as psychedelic combos go, I would say its one of the best. Honestly, I prefer to eat mushrooms in combination with other psychedelics. By themselves, mushrooms are very emotional for me.
Mushrooms themselves just tends to bring me up and down very fast. Sometimes I also get pretty intense existential thoughts during mushrooms trips that can turn dark sometimes. When I am already tripping on acid or mescaline, I don't really have this problem. It's like it eases me in and out of the experience more gently.
If I were doing that combo though, IMO, it is essential to eat the cacti before the fungi. The cacti will last much longer. One option might be to take a nice moderate to lowish cacti dose, and then wait a few hours. If you are feeling like you want to get a little trippier, eat a little bit of the mushrooms. If it was me, I would maybe eat like a gram or so of mushrooms.
I tend to think of adding in the mushrooms as an enhancement to the cacti trip. Sort of like smoking pot during the cacti trip, but a little more trippy. Unless you eat the mushrooms really late in the cactus trip, you will always feel the cactus longer than the mushrooms, IMO.
I should also probably say that I probably tend to take lower doses of mushrooms than a lot of people on this site.
I'm talking like .5-2 grams or so. I'm definitely not suggesting you should do a big dose of cactus and then eat an 1/8 of mushrooms. IMO 1/8 of mushrooms is a pretty big dose. I know a lot of people consider that to be the starting point, though. Not me.
I guess some people maybe would consider this pretty intense. IMO it's not really anymore intense than taking a high dose of one in particular. If you have been around here since 2003, I'm sure you know what you are doing, though.
thanks, considering I smoked DMT on my last cactus trip while also stoned on some very strong hash I figure I will be able to handle the intensity.
THe reason i tend to shy away from combining drugs sometimes because I find not all drugs have a good synergy and sometimes mixing them can cause a very muddled, confusing or sickening experience. I had a very bad trip one time when mixing amninita muscaria with cannabis and nitrous oxide.
I do sometimes wish cactus lasted a little shorter. I was surprised to read that the native americans would pass around peyote tea every two hours during the ceremony. that must be one long ceremony. i guess i might be inclined do to that if i had the time but considering how I am always trying to fit my trips into the weekend, i am always concerned about them lasting too long.
I am thinking of maybe taking a gram of shrooms instead of smoking hash on my next cactus trip like you suggested but at the same time mescaline plus hash/weed is my favorite drug combo ever. Never have i found two drugs with such synergy. my theory as to why is because both are plants which give a subtle push in a positive direction to the mind.
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Re: Man I can't pick a trip. Anyone else have this trouble? Help me decide? [Re: Deviate]
#21891134 - 07/03/15 01:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Deviate said: I do sometimes wish cactus lasted a little shorter. I was surprised to read that the native americans would pass around peyote tea every two hours during the ceremony. that must be one long ceremony.
Yup. They pass that stuff around all night long. Even the 70, 80 year old men and women. I've heard the ceremonies are often very emotional. However, I've also heard that sometimes, by the early morning hours, even many of the old timers are struggling to stifle the giggles from the huge amounts of mescaline consumed. Yeah, I'd say it's probably going to be a while before you fall asleep the next day.  
Many years ago, I once got dried peyote from a Native woman I was friends with. She wasn't particularly fond of the stuff, but she told me a story about picking up her father from a ceremony that lasted three days. She said he really didn't have any idea who or where he was pretty much. Supposedly. It sounded like a pretty serious cacti session.
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Re: Man I can't pick a trip. Anyone else have this trouble? Help me decide? [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
#21891146 - 07/03/15 02:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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lol wow does redosing work well with cactus? It seems like the natural psychedelics are a lot stronger when it comes to redosing as opposed to LSD.
I can recall trips where I would take 4 or 5 hits of acid, then when it hit I would feel so good and in control that I would decide to take another 3-4 hits but it never seemed to get me much higher. With mushrooms on the other hand, if I eat more mushrooms while already tripping they do seem to increase the effect. I havent tried redosing mescaline yet though.
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Re: Man I can't pick a trip. Anyone else have this trouble? Help me decide? [Re: Deviate]
#21891177 - 07/03/15 02:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Now that you mention it, I totally agree. I have never really thought about that before. I feel like I can eat more mushrooms or cacti and continue to get higher and higher most of the time. With acid I have to really take a significantly larger amount to get higher.
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Re: Man I can't pick a trip. Anyone else have this trouble? Help me decide? [Re: Starless]
#21891228 - 07/03/15 03:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Starless said: I don't think psilocin and mescaline are cross tolerant.
But they are
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Re: Man I can't pick a trip. Anyone else have this trouble? Help me decide? [Re: Starless]
#21891528 - 07/03/15 07:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Actually, Mescaline, LSD and Psylocybin are cross tolerant as all three molecules act om serotonin receptors. Still, serotonergic tolerance lasts but a few days only.
And I think you should do what crosses your mind more, it seems that you trip quite often, enough to know if you like one more than the other I'd say go for the one you have done less, cactus is more immersive in my opinion and shrooms a bit more strong and mind warping... Only downside to cactus is the taste and sheer amount of liquid needed but I say it's all part of it, shrooms are not a delicacy on their own
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