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Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism
    #21887289 - 07/02/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So this is what I've been doing over the years, meditating, studying, picking and choosing, logic and facing conflictions but with peace love and understanding.

I find it hard to describe emptiness to people but understanding it and non-dual interdependence is strong in my views, but I certainly believe in God and that Jesus walked the earth, many books read, thoughts of what's true and right to me going on, christian is my title as religion, I do not believe in rebirth.

In Romans chapter 2 st. Paul says that thoughs who never heard of Christ or the law but still fulfilled what it means, shows that the word as a law was written on the heart of man is there in everyone (of course the law of what's evil is there too), that is a lot to the way I understand eastern philosophy from a Christian point of view, or one can even say "Christian filter".

Yea, I guess you could say I study Hindus and Buddhist all day for years with love and belief, but with a Christian filter.
I can't seem to get interested in other religions, just can't focus on them yet, maybe someday, but now, just these three.

Is this sane? Could it be possible to take what you like from each and find personal peace? Anyone do something similar?

Like to hear your religious blends.:grin:


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: saintdextro]
    #21888387 - 07/02/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There's nothing wrong with studying other religions while remaining grounded in the Christian tradition. The idea that one must "deconstruct" Christianity in order to accommodate an understanding of other traditions is an error that is rooted in a materialist social critique of ecclesiastical history. Christians should study other traditions, but they should also not shy away from being critical of them either.


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: Photismos]
    #21888434 - 07/02/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The main source is diluted between all of these religions. They all have good points. It's good to take what you like from everything you dive into and create your own ideals. But I have read that satanism is actually a mix between the three things you described...


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: Shining Cosmos]
    #21888631 - 07/02/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The only thing I know about satanism is what I was told to me by a former satanist, they believe that carnal sins are good and should be praised, greed, lust, and even hatred are what they consider natural human tendencies that should not be repressed, but indulged or naturally expressed, Not very Buddhist if you ask me but I'm no expert. :shrug:


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: saintdextro]
    #21888742 - 07/02/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The only thing I know about satanism is what I was told to me by a former satanist, they believe that carnal sins are good and should be praised, greed, lust, and even hatred are what they consider natural human tendencies that should not be repressed, but indulged or naturally expressed, Not very Buddhist if you ask me but I'm no expert. :shrug:




i've been satanist before & it depends on the person, to me i think these things can be good but depends on how they're used like all things. hate can be good or bad and so can love. for a cliche example think of hitler, he was an evil person and hate can be good to motivate someone to want to stop him. or love, lots of stalkers are full of love for the person they stalk, so are people who lock someone away in their basement or whatnot their whole life, but it's not good. when i was caught up in the bible thing still though i went to satanism simply because satan represents freedom, knowledge, sovereignty etc etc, and god is a slave master, represents tyranny, childish outbursts, pure selfish rage, entitlement etc etc.

also on one of your other posts in this thread about mixing things, i don't think there's anything wrong with it & think it's more right. maybe god or whoever said 'my word is true and will forever remain' but i never seen anywhere where it was also said 'and people will gather it all together and put it in one book and call it the holy bible'. word might be absolute truth forever but there could be some of it here and some of it there and some of it a million miles away somewhere else etc etc.


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: saintdextro] * 1
    #21889207 - 07/02/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Inter-religious dialogue is a great thing.  I'm a Christian, but I am fascinated by all world religions.  My roommate is Tibetan Buddhist, and we have all kinds of great conversations about our respective traditions -- sometimes agreeing, sometimes disagreeing, but always being respectful.  One of the great things about inter-religious dialogue is that learning how other traditions conceptualize things like God, nature, faith, etc. can help inform one's own faith, either by adapting to the other religion's view or by better understanding what distinguishes one's own faith from others.

For doing religious dialog from a Christian perspective, I think it's important to keep in mind the concept of the Logos.  All wisdom traditions express the Logos in some way, and have teachings to lead people to it.  For Christians, however, Jesus Christ is himself the incarnate Logos.  This allows for a Christocentric pluralism, in which Christ is at the center, but all faiths, insofar as they express the Logos, partake in his nature.


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: saintdextro]
    #21889583 - 07/02/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There have been fairly profound books written that show what Frithjof Schuon called The Transcendent Unity of Religions in a book of that title. It describes the world religions as a many-sided mountain. Where the base it at its widest, the differences are the greatest. About halfway up the mountain, when it begins to narrow, the differences also narrow. Outer religious differences characterize Exoteric religion. Inner identical truth is what constitutes Esoteric religion. At the peak Truth is resolved into Oneness. The intellectual and cultural differences lie below the "Transcendent Unity." http://www.amazon.com/Transcendent-Unity-Religions-Quest-Book/dp/0835605876/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1435885504&sr=8-1&keywords=transcendent+unity+of+religions

Bede Griffiths was a Benedictine monk who wrote a book Vedanta and Christian Faith
http://www.amazon.com/Vedanta-Christian-Faith-Bede-Griffiths/dp/B001NJZULQ/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1435885218&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=vedanta+and+christianity%2C+bede+griffith

William Johnson wrote Christian Zen http://www.amazon.com/Christian-Zen-Meditation-William-Johnston/dp/0823218015/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1435885274&sr=8-1&keywords=christian+zen

J.-M. Dechenet wrote Christian Yoga  http://www.amazon.com/Christian-Yoga-J--M-Dechanet/dp/0223291730/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1435885355&sr=8-4&keywords=christian+yoga%2C+dechanet

These were some of the books I cut my spiritual teeth on. And of course, you must not be familiar with BE HERE NOW, which teaches the Transcendent Unity, The Perennial Philosophy that I am talking about. So my answer to you is a definitive YES. http://www.amazon.com/Perennial-Philosophy-Aldous-Huxley/dp/8087888626/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1435885625&sr=1-2&keywords=the+perennial+philosophy







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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: Pope] * 1
    #21889650 - 07/02/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

lots of stalkers are full of love for the person they stalk, so are people who lock someone away in their basement or whatnot their whole life,

You have frighteningly misunderstood the meaning of the word "love" in ANY sense of the term. :eek: Control, manipulation, deceit, wrongful imprisonment, sexual slavery, emotional, physical, and child sexual abuse, rape, and kidnapping. These actions are the result of perverse desire, delusional thinking, and pure psychopathy evidenced by the absence of empathy, compassion, conscience or remorse. These behaviors constitute moral retardation of the worse sort and they violate every ethical norm and international law on the planet. This is NOT love. Love by its nature is definitively good. Here is a clue for you: http://www.yesmagazine.org/happiness/the-ancient-greeks-6-words-for-love-and-why-knowing-them-can-change-your-life?utm_source=FB&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=20131227#.Ur7rEfzJtvU.facebook


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #21889706 - 07/02/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Markos, I'll note those books, as of now I'm not able to order off the net,,,I'm sure there's ton more books that relate multi-religious themes, I love to read which is why I get a religious book from the library once a month, right now I'm on "no time to lose: a timely guide to the way of the bodhisattva", it's a commentary on Shantideva's "bodhicharyavatara", by Pema Chodron...highly recommended to everyone.

Silversoul, can you or anyone elaborate what's Logos? Should I already know by now?


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: saintdextro]
    #21890307 - 07/02/15 09:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The Logos is synonymous with the Word. The Word is not just the Bible or the utterances of prophets, it certainly is those things, but the Word was there before the prophets, before Abraham, even before the foundation of the world was laid down. The Word is what God says in his own language.

Everything you experience is God speaking to you. Every blade of grass, every penny, every souvenir, every word (haha), the sun, the moon, the stars, constellations, trees, every feeling and emotion etc, they are all God's way of speaking.

So the Word emanates from God, eternally. But through the fall, man has become largely unconscious of this. Instead man believes objects have independent existences of their own, rather than being all being a reflection of the one God of heaven and earth. So the Word is hidden from men. Whereever man might look, he cannot find it, despite the fact that it has been starring at him in the face for his whole life.

So the average man lives in an apparent 3-dimensional world where his existence is apparently sustained primarily through his food.

This is why the Bible says man is not intended to live on bread alone but rather on every word that proceeds forth from the mouth of God. So the prophet or wise man lives on the Word, whereas the worldly man liveth on food. Note that this does not mean a prophet cannot also consume food, but he knows that God is the source of all and the fountain of life.

Do you understand? You are the Logos but you must realize it for it to be truly so, otherwise the Word you receive will be false and contaminated by the lies of the evil one and his fallen followers. If you don't realize it, then you are not the Logos. It's the same paradox you find in all systems of spiritual understanding.

Now this is merely my theory I have gleaned from reading the Bible myself, I consider myself just a very beginner when it comes to spiritual stuff so I apologize if this information is not correct. If anything I have posted is incorrect, please let me know.


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: Deviate]
    #21890327 - 07/02/15 10:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Oh and as far as your question about whether is ok to mix religions like this, I say absolutely, absolutely is ok although I recommend studying each on its own rather than putting them all in a big pot and cooking them together.

This is what some folks in the new age movement have done and I really think it adds to the confusion. Well, the new age movement can be ok but in my opinion, only if you are all well grounded and knowledgable about each religion on its own before you begin studying the new age bastardization.

This way you will be able to judge for yourself, whether what the new agers are saying rings true for you.


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: Deviate]
    #21890388 - 07/02/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think there's a lot of merit in putting them in a big pot and cooking them together. For one, you can scrape the scum off the top and see what's underneath.

They're all EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME when you get down to the kernel of it.


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: viktor]
    #21890499 - 07/02/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well I think thats ok too as long as you study them individually first. At least that was my experience. I mean, how can you learn about a tomato if you cook the tomato in a soup with everything else and it all melt togehter? Where will you find your tomato now?

You see what happened to me was that I stumbled upon some new age teachings that tried to tell me how everything was before I was well versed in understanding Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism individually, so what happened was that I did not have the proper foundation of understanding, nor did I feel qualified to disagree with the new age crap because I knew so little myself. The new age stuff lead me down into a dark valley, where I nearly died. I am not sure whether that was my fault or the fault of the teachings but i can say that had I been more well versed in understanding the religions as they were understood historically, one at a time, I feel I would have been much more qualified to understand.


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: viktor]
    #21890595 - 07/02/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I think there's a lot of merit in putting them in a big pot and cooking them together. For one, you can scrape the scum off the top and see what's underneath.

They're all EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME when you get down to the kernel of it.




Not necessarily. While other traditions express the Logos in immensely profound ways (not to mention these traditions enrich the entire panorama of human spirituality), these traditions primarily emerge from a subjective understanding of Logos (i.e. gnosis). This isn't the case for the Christian Mystery, which is the objective, historical revealing of the Logos in the person of Jesus Christ. Christianity is essentially the esoteric made exoteric; the esoteric dimension of Christianity is a higher order of mysticism (traversing *both* gnosis and the miraculous) that does not immediately correspond with non-Christian traditions (for example, encounters with the resurrection body of Jesus or the assumed body of the Virgin Mother).


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: Photismos]
    #21890641 - 07/02/15 11:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

By linking Buddhism to satanism I was referring to the sharing of the chakra systems, op


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: saintdextro]
    #21890869 - 07/03/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Markos, I'll note those books, as of now I'm not able to order off the net,,,I'm sure there's ton more books that relate multi-religious themes, I love to read which is why I get a religious book from the library once a month, right now I'm on "no time to lose: a timely guide to the way of the bodhisattva", it's a commentary on Shantideva's "bodhicharyavatara", by Pema Chodron...highly recommended to everyone.

Silversoul, can you or anyone elaborate what's Logos? Should I already know by now?




Not suggesting you obtain these books (except perhaps BE HERE NOW as an unsurpassed tripping manual), and some of them are out-of-print and pricey. Just saying that my perspective introduced by BE HERE NOW was driven home by these books from my generation. Huxley's The Perennial Philosophy is certainly worth reading and so is Schuon's book.

The Perennialist school is countered by the Constructivist school which insists that all mystical experience is mediated and tinted by some intellectual tradition. The Perennialists insist that there are colorless, immediate experiences that transcend any tradition's description. There is a hybrid notion too of course in classic Hegelian dialectic (Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis). Whatever my most profound experience was, I was reading Tibetan Buddhism at the time, but also Evelyn Underhill's book Mysticism which highlighted Christian mysticism. The Buddhist description was more 'robust' as they say in statistics. But, I've had a Jewish-flavored experience on a Rosh Hashana acid trip where I ended up attempting to repair a burned out Eternal Light over the ark in the Jewish part of an interfaith chapel. So I can see both major schools points of view and a synthesis. If you're interested in these opposing schools of mysticism, there is Forman's informative book: http://www.amazon.com/Problem-Pure-Consciousness-Mysticism-Philosophy/dp/0195109767/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1435903815&sr=8-1&keywords=forman%2C+pure+consciousness


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #21890914 - 07/03/15 12:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You really like BE HERE NOW don't you Markos? I love that book also. What do you think of Leary's work? How was my interpretation of the LOGOS am I on the right track?


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: Deviate]
    #21891714 - 07/03/15 08:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Logos sounds like a concept I can get into, after more research,, normally I meditate on the holy spirit, or as the same thing in my interpretation "OM", could logos be a single object to meditate on? Or even, is it OM (aum)?


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: saintdextro]
    #21891766 - 07/03/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Actually I meditate on emptiness, often at the same time as holy spirit/aum, just to clarify.


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: Deviate]
    #21891923 - 07/03/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You really like BE HERE NOW don't you Markos? I love that book also. What do you think of Leary's work? How was my interpretation of the LOGOS am I on the right track?




I met Leary twice and had him autograph The Psychedelic Experience twice, 20 years apart. He rapped me on the forehead. I had affection for the man, but he set psychedelic research back decades through his Dionysian recklessness. He was much more enamored of cellular and later computer models of consciousness, staying as you suggest in your Logos comments, more within the material field than the purely spiritual. Logos was translated as "word" in the Bible which is how the whole trinitarian model got started. Personally, I see the Christian trinity as explicated by Augustine in the West or Pseudo-Dionysus in the East as an adaptation of Plotinian Neoplatonism where the One-Nous-World Soul becomes changed to Father-Son-Holy Spirit. The Nous or the Logos is God as Being, containing the Platonic Forms ("Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made) - John 1:3. The Nous or Logos is emanated (or "begotten") eternally as you say in both systems from the One ("Father") which is the Unmanifested Godhead of which nothing can be imputed, not even Being. Plotinus explicates Plato's thoughts on this (in Parmenides, one of Plato's works that I recently read with moderate difficulty).


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: saintdextro]
    #21893597 - 07/03/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Silversoul, can you or anyone elaborate what's Logos? Should I already know by now?



The Logos is a concept that goes back to early Greek philosophy.  It is basically a kind of hidden order to the universe.  Probably the closest parallel would be the Tao.  It is basically that by which the universe is able to make sense to us.  It is the Good, the Beautiful, and the True.  In the Gospel of John, it is translated as "Word," as in "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."  The next line is particularly important for Christians: "And the Word became Flesh."  The Logos or "Word" basically is referring to the expression of God in the order of the cosmos.

As an aside, I second Markos' recommendation of Fr. Bede Griffiths.  He was vitally important in founding the Christian Ashram Movement in India, which essentially adapts the Christian faith to certain practices and aesthetics that are more familiar to Hindus.



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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #21893619 - 07/03/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Very interesting, thanks Markos. I viewed an interview with Tim Leary on youtube recently and he claimed that back in the 60s, he was so naive that he never imagined that the psychedelic movement would become what it did.

He said that he thought people would only use psychedelics in proper set and setting primarily for religious reasons. He never imagined that the hippies would come, or the grateful dead or that acid would basically become the premiere party drug of the era.

I was surprised to hear this to say the least, given how much fun the psychedelic experience can be, it seems quite obvious to me that more people would use it for recreation than for spiritual reasons. I feel like Leary didn't quite understand that most people in the world don't care too mcuh about the spiritual way and for them, getting them high just isn't enough to change this, so they simply look at it as a fun recreational experience. What do you think Leary primarily did wrong? Too vocal about his discoveries  and too anti authority?

In my opinion the thing that happened in the 60s was people became too enamored with psychedelics, thinking they were some sort of panacea that would save the world. Then, when this didnt happen and it turned out psychedelics were actually not as wonderful as originally thought, there was a backlash against them. Now people are starting to realize that the backlash went too far in other direction. Just because they dont fix everything doesnt mean they are useless either.

Now what you have said about the One-Nous-World Soul reminds of what I have been learning about in the Philokalia. I have also noticed the Philokalia praises and shows great respect for the great gnostic fathers. Why is this? I thought gnoticism was considered a heresy by the Orthodox church?


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: Deviate]
    #21894010 - 07/03/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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What do you think Leary primarily did wrong?




Imho, there was nothing wrong with Leary per se, but rather some of his actions, possibly.  To boil it down, he was too loud and needed too much attention, when the best course of action would have been to be more judicious about such sensitive matters.  Many people have made the case that the criminalization of many now illicit substances stems from Leary's overexposure of them, which some have viewed as reckless at best.  I don't want to comment on that because I don't really know whether it's true, and this kind of stuff opens up a universe whose place is not in this thread.  But that's my :twocents:.


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    #21894014 - 07/03/15 07:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Personally, I see the Christian trinity as explicated by Augustine in the West or Pseudo-Dionysus in the East as an adaptation of Plotinian Neoplatonism where the One-Nous-World Soul becomes changed to Father-Son-Holy Spirit. The Nous or the Logos is God as Being, containing the Platonic Forms ("Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made) - John 1:3. The Nous or Logos is emanated (or "begotten") eternally as you say in both systems from the One ("Father") which is the Unmanifested Godhead of which nothing can be imputed, not even Being. Plotinus explicates Plato's thoughts on this (in Parmenides, one of Plato's works that I recently read with moderate difficulty).




I don't think it's accurate to say that the doctrinal development of the Christian trinity is purely an adaptation Plotinian Neoplatonism. The explication of the Christian trinity as a dogma was also committed to developing an Ante-Nicene tradition of the trinity (such as Tertullian's Against Hermogenes, Theophilus' exegesis of Genesis and even earlier baptismal formulas). Triune theology in the non-Christian world might also go back much further than the Platonic Academy itself. While Middle Platonic Hermetica reconnoitred something of a silhouetted trinity, Flinders Petrie dated some of the Hermetic corpus to Demotic texts from much earlier (two or three centuries before Plato).

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The Perennialist school is countered by the Constructivist school which insists that all mystical experience is mediated and tinted by some intellectual tradition.




The Constructivist school is solely epistemological, is it not? IMO the Perennialist school is chiefly countered by the capacious category of Western esotericism (Hermeticism, Freemasonry, Rosicrucianism, Theosophy, Anthroposophy, etc.) which tend to differentiate between mysticism and initiation, primordial tradition and visionary denouement.

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But, I've had a Jewish-flavored experience on a Rosh Hashana acid trip where I ended up attempting to repair a burned out Eternal Light over the ark in the Jewish part of an interfaith chapel.




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Interestingly enough, my most profound experiences on immodest doses of psychedelics always occur when I'm trying to allocate an immense amount of concentration and effort to perform a rudimentary task. Profundity and hilarity ensues.


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: Photismos]
    #21894164 - 07/03/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Outside of his Egyptology as taught to me by my former prof Bob Brier, I hadn't read that about Petri. I was being simplistic and I was not taking any other trinitarian concepts from traditions outside the Christian ones into consideration. It with the realm of possibility that Plato had encountered proselytizing Buddhists, and his predecessor in the Greek mystery traditions, Pythagoras, was quite possibly aware of Hindu categories which would've included mythic trinitarian thought at the very least. Psychological formulations like Sat Chit Ananda were perhaps later developments, I'd have to check. I do not think chronologically as a trained historian even a historian of religious thought. Nevertheless, your comments are much appreciated. :thumbup:

The Constructivist school strikes me as failing to grok transcendental experiences at it most formless range. Heinrich Zimmer for example, was brave enough to take mescaline, but his conclusion was both Catholic and condescending, expressing the opinion that 'mere' nature mysticism or some 'impersonalist' forms of mysticism are conceivable with such substances, but that theistic mystical experiences were quite beyond the purview of psychedelic leverage, something akin to storming Heaven with divine consequences. I have written a book which is an autobiographical account of my most interesting and profound experiences, but I felt the need to classify them first and I did separate visionary experiences (such as Paul being "caught up to the third heaven") and formless mystical experiences (not articulated in the NT beyond those "I AM" affirmation of John's Jesus - Pure Consciousness Events of Identity).


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Re: Mixing Christianity Buddhism and Hinduism [Re: saintdextro]
    #21910029 - 07/07/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Christianity + Buddhism + Hinduism = lost


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