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Straight A student caught with 'magic mushrooms,' meth gets probation
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http://www.oregonlive.com/west-linn/index.ssf/2015/07/straight_a_student_caught_with.html
Straight A student caught with 'magic mushrooms,' meth gets probation
 West Linn police displayed drugs and cash seized after a June 2014 traffic stop that resulted in charges against Marin Vesley and Gordon Cady. (West Linn Police Department)
By Steve Mayes | The Oregonian/OregonLive on July 01, 2015 at 4:00 PM
 Marin Kathryn Vesley
An 18-year-old high school honor student who got caught with meth, ecstasy and a large quantity of hallucinogenic mushrooms during a West Linn traffic stop was sentenced Tuesday to three years on probation.
Marin Kathryn Vesley of Laguna Niguel, Calif., and Gordon Filemu Cady of Portland were arrested June 17, 2014.
Police found 1.5 pounds of psilocybin mushrooms -- known as magic mushrooms -- and 67 capsules that contained meth or ecstasy – also called MDMA. Police also seized more than $1,600 in cash believed to be the proceeds from drug-trafficking.
Vesley was carrying some of the drugs in her purse when she was arrested, said Clackamas County prosecutor Stacey Borgman.
Vesley pleaded guilty to attempted delivery of meth, a felony. Several other felony drug charges were dismissed as part of a plea deal.
Since her arrest, Vesley got a job, began drug treatment and attended school in New York, her mother told Circuit Judge Jeffrey Jones.
The mother said Vesley graduated from high school early and when she turned 18 she came to Portland on her own. That's where she met Cady.
Vesley, now 19, was a straight A student who took calculus and advanced music classes in high school, took a leadership role at school and had done extensive community volunteer work, her mother said. "She's a model student and citizen," her mother said.
Vesley said she will start classes in the fall at Pacific Northwest College of Art in Portland. "I want to follow my dream," she said.
"You've done all the right things. You're very talented," Jones told Vesley.
Cady, 29, goes to trial on drug charges on Aug. 6.
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Re: Straight A student caught with 'magic mushrooms,' meth gets probation [Re: motaman]
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meth or ectasy, also know as MDMA
Are they refferring to meth also being ectasy or did they mean meth and ectasy?
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Re: Straight A student caught with 'magic mushrooms,' meth gets probation [Re: Mental Taco] 1
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Was probly some caffiene pills and cops were like: yup thats the shit, yup thats some uhh....what do ya call it...METH. JAIL. METH. JAIL. ECSTACY. PRISON. NOW
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Re: Straight A student caught with 'magic mushrooms,' meth gets probation [Re: MajickMuffin] 2
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She snitched big time dude. No way you get away from those charges without being a fucking pussy rat
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Re: Straight A student caught with 'magic mushrooms,' meth gets probation [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
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Are they referring to meth also being ectasy or did they mean meth and ectasy?
Come on, really?
MD...MA
I wonder what the MA stands for? 
The did her a favor and charged her with a schedule 2 (Meth) substance rather than a schedule 1 (MDMA).
Idk if she snitched, if you have mental health issues and are exceptionally skilled at academic tests they will be biased. I got a diploma after 3.5 years instead of 4 and they never suspended me even knowing i had a cocaine habit at 16. My not-so-bright friends would get suspended if not expelled for something as simple as a small amount of cannabis.
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Re: Straight A student caught with 'magic mushrooms,' meth gets probation [Re: Toadstool5]
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Yeah...... Meth and mdma are two different substances.
Just cuz MDMA has the MA in it does not make it meth...... Or even contain meth....
Anyways id hit it. Smart and has good drugs ++.
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Re: Straight A student caught with 'magic mushrooms,' meth gets probation [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
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Rebelutionsssss said: She snitched big time dude. No way you get away from those charges without being a fucking pussy rat
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Re: Straight A student caught with 'magic mushrooms,' meth gets probation [Re: azur]
#21887455 - 07/02/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's actually possible. I got arrestedwith 1 gram 4-ho-mipt few oz mushies, and DMT, with nothing more than probation. Only about 30 min from this too.
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Re: Straight A student caught with 'magic mushrooms,' meth gets probation [Re: azur]
#21887468 - 07/02/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just cuz MDMA has the MA in it does not make it meth...... Or even contain meth....
Yeah it does. The meth laws in the US specify ANY substituted or racemic version of meth is meth. Ergo the methylenedioxy analogue is prosecutable as meth OR as amphetamine OR as MDMA possession/intent/manufacturing.
You dont say methamphetamine isnt an amphetamine because its substituted 
If you cleave off the oxygens and methyl group it is meth, pure and simple. Plus the extra charges for meth or amphetamines gives the local DA better options in how they wish to pursue the case. They can now continue with either a schedule 1 or 2 charge depending on mercy and it protects their case more if it turns out the pills are actually meth and not methylenedioxidized meth once they are analyzed.
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She snitched big time dude. No way you get away from those charges without being a fucking pussy rat
I beg to differ. Anyone remember Reagan getting caught selling ICBMs to Iran? He didn't snitch, Oliver North snitched an his ass is the one that went down for it and the contras escapade.
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Re: Straight A student caught with 'magic mushrooms,' meth gets probation [Re: AZrooj]
#21887474 - 07/02/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's much less than this girl had. We'll know when her codefendant gets 3 years too. But in jail, not probation
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Re: Straight A student caught with 'magic mushrooms,' meth gets probation [Re: azur]
#21887500 - 07/02/15 11:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Her codefendent was 29, he cant say he was a young straight-A student that got mixed up with the wrong crowd. His parents aslo didnt drop thousands on a lawyer.
If she was 17 he would be even more screwed over. Hes lucky it wasnt worse.
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Re: Straight A student caught with 'magic mushrooms,' meth gets probation [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
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Mental Taco said:
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meth or ectasy, also know as MDMA
Are they refferring to meth also being ectasy or did they mean meth and ectasy?
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Come on, really?
MD...MA
I wonder what the MA stands for? 
The did her a favor and charged her with a schedule 2 (Meth) substance rather than a schedule 1 (MDMA).
I actually think it is messed up they said it was meth.... It is like they are reinforcing the stereotype of the tweaker to study all night. I bet it is mainly MDMA with very little meth if any. The way the article says meth and mushrooms was found without a mention of ecstasy in the title is just beyond fucked up.
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Idk if she snitched, if you have mental health issues and are exceptionally skilled at academic tests they will be biased. I got a diploma after 3.5 years instead of 4 and they never suspended me even knowing i had a cocaine habit at 16. My not-so-bright friends would get suspended if not expelled for something as simple as a small amount of cannabis.
This. If she snitched I doubt articles like this would be written. She could have used the excuse of stress , financial struggle, and just every excuse in the book to get off without too much happening to her. She probably accepted going to a drug program for a lot long than if not cooperating. It could be a situation where the police wanted to bust a white person as a way to fix their image as evidence that they do not just bust minorities. My mom told me this would happen with smoking pot, but the idea is laughable. In this situation it seems very likely.
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Re: Straight A student caught with 'magic mushrooms,' meth gets probation [Re: Mental Taco]
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Mental Taco said:
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meth or ectasy, also know as MDMA
Are they refferring to meth also being ectasy or did they mean meth and ectasy?
I doubt that they even know
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Re: Straight A student caught with 'magic mushrooms,' meth gets probation [Re: Psilosopherr]
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I actually think it is messed up they said it was meth.... It is like they are reinforcing the stereotype of the tweaker to study all night. I bet it is mainly MDMA with very little meth if any.
Methylenedioxymethamphetamine is a substituted methamphetamine!!!! 
Just because everyone takes it orally and it comes with cool colors and insigmias aimed at alluring 16 year olds doesnt mean it isnt crank. Now i see why the analogue act is so fucked up.
Whats next? Adderall isn't meth either?
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Re: Straight A student caught with 'magic mushrooms,' meth gets probation [Re: Toadstool5] 1
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I actually think it is messed up they said it was meth.... It is like they are reinforcing the stereotype of the tweaker to study all night. I bet it is mainly MDMA with very little meth if any.
Methylenedioxymethamphetamine is a substituted methamphetamine!!!! 
Just because everyone takes it orally and it comes with cool colors and insigmias aimed at alluring 16 year olds doesnt mean it isnt crank. Now i see why the analogue act is so fucked up.
Whats next? Adderall isn't meth either? 
Adderall = Amphetamie =/= Methamphetamine
MDMA =/= Methamphetamine
Sure, MDMA is an analog of methamphetamine, and methamphetamine is an analog of amphetamine, but they do not have the same effects. Getting charged with Meth instead of MDMA would actually come out better for her, though... Also, MDMA is definitely NOT crank.
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Re: Straight A student caught with 'magic mushrooms,' meth gets probation [Re: PsYcHoDoUgHbOy]
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Adderall = Amphetamie =/= Methamphetamine
Adderall is a 50/50 mixture of methylated amphetamine salts and amphetamine salts. It is essentially half-cooked meth.
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Sure, MDMA is an analog of methamphetamine, and methamphetamine is an analog of amphetamine, but they do not have the same effects. Getting charged with Meth instead of MDMA would actually come out better for her, though... Also, MDMA is definitely NOT crank.
Subjectively MDMA is not meth but scientically it is methamphetamine. Ask any chemist if mdma is meth and they will laugh and say "duh!".
Thats like saying Brown rice isnt rice! It tastes differently 
Mdma is made in ghetto make-shift labs and is a stimulant, what do you consider crank?
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Re: Straight A student caught with 'magic mushrooms,' meth gets probation [Re: Toadstool5]
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You guys are all smoking crack.
No, mdma is not meth. Adderall is not meth. Maybe through some dumb legal loophole they can prosecute you for meth if you get caught with mdma, but they are not the same. You mean to tell me if you bought Molly from someone and it turned out to be meth you'd be like "oh well fuck it, its the same thing anyway"?
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Re: Straight A student caught with 'magic mushrooms,' meth gets probation [Re: Toadstool5] 2
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Adderall = Amphetamie =/= Methamphetamine
Adderall is a 50/50 mixture of methylated amphetamine salts and amphetamine salts. It is essentially half-cooked meth.
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Sure, MDMA is an analog of methamphetamine, and methamphetamine is an analog of amphetamine, but they do not have the same effects. Getting charged with Meth instead of MDMA would actually come out better for her, though... Also, MDMA is definitely NOT crank.
Subjectively MDMA is not meth but scientically it is methamphetamine. Ask any chemist if mdma is meth and they will laugh and say "duh!".
Thats like saying Brown rice isnt rice! It tastes differently 
Mdma is made in ghetto make-shift labs and is a stimulant, what do you consider crank?
Sorry but you're wrong. Adderall contains the dextro and levo isomers of amphetamine. Neither are methamphetamine. Similarly, meth can come in the levo or dextro isomers also.
And wtf does that even mean "mdma is scientifically meth"? No, methylenedioxymethamphetamine is not methamphetamine. Two different compounds, buddy.
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Re: Straight A student caught with 'magic mushrooms,' meth gets probation [Re: searching]
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You mean to tell me if you bought Molly from someone and it turned out to be meth you'd be like "oh well fuck it, its the same thing anyway"?
With the notorious impurities in MDMA and the availability of safrole oil, yeah. I would simply be glad it wasnt MDA or MDE.
Whats the most common MDMA adulterant? Meth, because who will honestly care?
I looked up adderall and they have changed the formula to dextroamphetamine instead of the infamous desoxyn so i stand corrected on that but I am done arguing the difference of MDMA vs MA because of a subjective high.
It has an amphetamine backbone and is methylated into a secondary amine. Like how is that not a methamphetamine?
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Re: Straight A student caught with 'magic mushrooms,' meth gets probation [Re: Toadstool5] 1
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Adderall = Amphetamie =/= Methamphetamine
Adderall is a 50/50 mixture of methylated amphetamine salts and amphetamine salts. It is essentially half-cooked meth.
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Sure, MDMA is an analog of methamphetamine, and methamphetamine is an analog of amphetamine, but they do not have the same effects. Getting charged with Meth instead of MDMA would actually come out better for her, though... Also, MDMA is definitely NOT crank.
Subjectively MDMA is not meth but scientically it is methamphetamine. Ask any chemist if mdma is meth and they will laugh and say "duh!".
Thats like saying Brown rice isnt rice! It tastes differently 
Mdma is made in ghetto make-shift labs and is a stimulant, what do you consider crank?
did you really just say that scientifically speaking, two different compounds are the same? 
You obviously don't know what you're talking about very well. MDMA, from what I have read, is not made in ghetto labs, as it is more complex than making meth.
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