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GuruKhan
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Re: DMT and first time trippers [Re: openmind]
#21897150 - 07/04/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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i did dmt twice yesterday and................no break through, just an intense trip, everything turned cartoony but as far as being on another planet, not yet. my brother taught me how to make a vaporizer out of a 2 liter bottle, im going to do it again in 3 days, its guarenteed to give me a breakthrough.
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Psilosopherr
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Re: DMT and first time trippers [Re: GuruKhan]
#21897175 - 07/04/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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my harmala extract is just about done. Then I'll finally be able to make changa 
first breakthrough on changa isn't a bad idea is it?
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moonzo
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I got changa because i DIDN'T wanna breakthru but rather jus surf the dmt high. I never done it in a bong because i don't really wanna breakthrough i only do it in joints/blunts; calls for a goodtime.
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Toadstool5
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my harmala extract is just about done.
first breakthrough on changa isn't a bad idea is it?
I would be more concerned with the harmaline MAOIs and your amine intake from diet. Serotonin syndrome and hypertension are not fun, horrible feverish feeling like your organs are going to fail and you are going pass out. It is reversible though so its much safer.
With smoking its all about the size of the hits and the rate at which you smoke. Seems safer than oral use due to a shorter duration, less need for MAOI, and the dose is "built" rather than done all at once.
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GoldenEye
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Re: DMT and first time trippers [Re: moonzo]
#21897354 - 07/04/15 04:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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qweqaz said: There are middle grounds, you just have to have enough DMT to play with dosages.
It's tough to control though. Especially at first. I smoked myself into amnesia the third time around whilst trying to work up the intensity gradually.
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stuckinwonderland
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Re: DMT and first time trippers [Re: GoldenEye]
#21897598 - 07/04/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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my first trip was a high dose of oral dmt when i was 16 and i wouldnt change a thing it was perfect
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Psilosopherr
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Re: DMT and first time trippers [Re: Toadstool5]
#21897635 - 07/04/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Toadstool5 said:
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my harmala extract is just about done.
first breakthrough on changa isn't a bad idea is it?
I would be more concerned with the harmaline MAOIs and your amine intake from diet. Serotonin syndrome and hypertension are not fun, horrible feverish feeling like your organs are going to fail and you are going pass out. It is reversible though so its much safer.
With smoking its all about the size of the hits and the rate at which you smoke. Seems safer than oral use due to a shorter duration, less need for MAOI, and the dose is "built" rather than done all at once.
I made a post about this a little while ago if you'd care to give your opinion of the responses.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21797513/page/3
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qweqaz
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Re: DMT and first time trippers [Re: GoldenEye]
#21897757 - 07/04/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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GoldenEye said:
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qweqaz said: There are middle grounds, you just have to have enough DMT to play with dosages.
It's tough to control though. Especially at first. I smoked myself into amnesia the third time around whilst trying to work up the intensity gradually.
If you learn to smoke the DMT the same every time and wait at least an hour between trips you can really trim it in. I personally can smoke a certain amount that will push me just to peek into that other dimension and then stay inside both worlds at the same time. It is superinterresting. Smoking it all gradually usually helps a lot to control the intake. That is, instead of just rip it all in all at once you take a small hit first and let the heartbeat go up and all that jazz that usually builds when trip starts, then you take another one that is slightly larger and then keep doing this. I used to think that the tolerance would kick in too fast and that I had to rush it in but its not needed. Gradually enter the other world is more fun because you do not have to be so scared/nervous of being punched in the face by the shockwave.
One very interresting experience is to only stare at the pipe as you hit it..you will see the background become more and more transformative and blurry and the focuspoint on the pipe will become more pronounced and all of the sudden you sit there on the otherside holding the pipe..but you are in another dimension..and then it fades out and you are back in your regular room again. This is superinterresting I must say. Usually if you focus on things in your room they will transform and dissolve and it can be pretty disorienting..tho still interresting.
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thewanderer25
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Re: DMT and first time trippers [Re: qweqaz]
#21898004 - 07/04/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I use the two litter as well its decent but flame both sides before using it because it has bad chemical that can give you alzheimer's.
I think DMT may be the best thing for a noob you just have to give them a tiny dose and they would feel like their on mushrooms for 10 minutes its a lot better than being on mushrooms for 6 hours (for a noob) and the more they like it the more than can play around with it and go further.
Plus if anything goes wrong its the shortest psychedelic know to man. Just give them a small dose like 15 mg and if they like it go to 20mg then 30mg but don't go past 35mg until they have done it 10 times past 35 will make anyone breakthrough. Just make sure they know what they're in for to some extent.
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Toadstool5
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I made a post about this a little while ago if you'd care to give your opinion of the responses.
I did 
With it being reversible you dont have to worry about tyramine-rich foods but you do have to be careful with certain opioids and stimulants that increase striatal dopamine (like MDMA )
It also shouldnt be combined with anti-histamines or SSRIs. Definitely not anti-histamines (its a histamine N-methyl transferase inhibitor)
What the others suggested regarding making changa was spot on. B. Caapi leaf if i remember is only used for laying the changa not really as a source of harmala alkaloids.
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Psilosopherr
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Re: DMT and first time trippers [Re: Toadstool5]
#21899434 - 07/05/15 01:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Toadstool5 said:
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I made a post about this a little while ago if you'd care to give your opinion of the responses.
I did 
With it being reversible you dont have to worry about tyramine-rich foods but you do have to be careful with certain opioids and stimulants that increase striatal dopamine (like MDMA )
It also shouldnt be combined with anti-histamines or SSRIs. Definitely not anti-histamines (its a histamine N-methyl transferase inhibitor)
What the others suggested regarding making changa was spot on. B. Caapi leaf if i remember is only used for laying the changa not really as a source of harmala alkaloids.
good to know about the anti histamines. had never heard that before
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