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Reod12x2
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Outdoor grow? Need some help
#21885298 - 07/01/15 09:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey guys just hoped on the shroom train today. And have been looking around the best I can. And ordered a syringe of golden teacher
What I have plans for is just doing a back yard grow. In suthern ON, canada..I live next to a big green space. Mostly consisting of a pine to leaved tree ecosystem. With downed trees, avalibe kitchen/ fruit compost, and pine covered and non pine covered floor. With multiple fungi around in various places.
The last thing Im trying to learn now is how to start the spores off. I know people are talking about cakes, bird seed, brown rice flour and incubating. Which is a bit for me to absorb in a day... But would it be alright to let nature run its course. And just drop a couple hot spots in various places with the ripe compost? Or should I try to spawn in a jar? Then transfer to compost
And with letting nature run its course is this species going to run rampent in the green space? Like IMO it would be funny as fuck to see shrooms in countless random spots. But am concerned if its invasive or not.
Thank you guys for your help.
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Mad Season
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Re: Outdoor grow? Need some help [Re: Reod12x2]
#21885647 - 07/01/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not invasive. Especially not in your area. It's a dung lover so it wouldn't be randomly popping up unless it was a cow field.
I'd probably just follow the pf tek (brown rice flour tek) once fully colonized, instead of putting it in a sgfc you'd crumble it up with a cheese grater and mix it into a bed of manure. Cover with leaves, straw, grass, soil/forest floor, it really doesn't matter, and wait.
Edited by Mad Season (07/01/15 11:25 PM)
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Re: Outdoor grow? Need some help [Re: Reod12x2]
#21886744 - 07/02/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Edited by Mandarinfish (07/15/20 10:47 PM)
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Reod12x2
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Re: Outdoor grow? Need some help [Re: Mandarinfish]
#21887389 - 07/02/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ya I'm excited.... But clueless lol.
So I've read up on the brf cakes. No simpler then brf and mid vermiculite with a side of water, in a jar? It sounds simple enough sept for the sterilization but I will give that a try.... I was also planing on just dumping some spores on site. Would it take hold if I did that or do I have to start in a jar?
Also mandarinfish. When you say bury do you mean as I'm spawning. Or after the white stuff has appeared?
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Reod12x2
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Re: Outdoor grow? Need some help [Re: Reod12x2]
#21896168 - 07/04/15 10:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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So for a syringe how many square feet of coverage am I to be expecting? Or need to have for a syringe
I got my plan in stone. What I'm going to do is make a trench put the manuer in. then layer the top with whole brown rice and coarse brf. Mix the spores in then layer losely with 1" manure forest floor mix. And hope
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Re: Outdoor grow? Need some help [Re: Reod12x2]
#21896192 - 07/04/15 10:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Seriously don't do that. That's such a waste of spores. Do pf tek. Hell agar if you're able to. If you do agar turn it into a clean LC/LI and then squirt as much solution as you want.
I just seriously suggest not getting rid of your spores if you are planning any future grows
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Re: Outdoor grow? Need some help [Re: Mad Season]
#21897895 - 07/04/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well..... This grow is going to be a one off.... I may collect spore prints. But am unsure if I'm going to be able to grow next year or not.
This site is amazing in a labyrinth way lol. Look at it a couple times then the next time you find a new section.... I found the whole PF TEK. Yes now that I have read multiple PF's I will give the cake in a jar a go.... But one problem still remains is that I haven't found any vermiculite. I will stop by a garden nursery some time is week.
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Re: Outdoor grow? Need some help [Re: Reod12x2]
#21897959 - 07/04/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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If your doing outdoors just get some bird seed and spawn to horse poop.
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Mad Season
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Re: Outdoor grow? Need some help [Re: Gr0wer]
#21897966 - 07/04/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gr0wer said: If your doing outdoors just get some bird seed and spawn to horse poop.
Do you know how ruined bird seed patches get outside? Brf is best because it doesn't attract animals. However I bet a grain slurry would be AMAZING. And could really expand a single grain jar a lot more.
Besides pf tek doesn't need a pressure cooker.
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jesuisravi
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Re: Outdoor grow? Need some help [Re: Reod12x2]
#21898160 - 07/04/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Reod12x2 said: Well..... This grow is going to be a one off.... I may collect spore prints. But am unsure if I'm going to be able to grow next year or not.
This site is amazing in a labyrinth way lol. Look at it a couple times then the next time you find a new section.... I found the whole PF TEK. Yes now that I have read multiple PF's I will give the cake in a jar a go.... But one problem still remains is that I haven't found any vermiculite. I will stop by a garden nursery some time is week.
I couldn't find vermiculite anywhere in the big box stores. I had to go to a feed store. As for an outdoor bed: You first have to have spawn. This would be fully colonized PF tek cakes. Then you could take these and bury them under compost mixed with some cured cow manure. But being so far north, I wonder if this would work? Really it is a little late to get all the ducks lined up for this year--seems to me. You would be better off--IMHO-- with an indoor grow. That way you would be more likely to have something to show for all your labor.I have never made a dedicated outdoor attempt. Once I did, by acdident, grow a few cubes outdoors. It happened like this: I put some spent cakes in a flower pot and mixed them with the potsoil thinking they would make good fertiizer. Not too long after I found, to my great astonishment, a coulple of short fat cubenses rising from the black floor of the potsoil. So, I guess it can be done.
-------------------- Most of my beliefs I acquired from my father and from John Wayne, and anything that wasn't ultra tough and ultra cool was to me ultra embarrassing. In fact, I lived in a state of near continuous embarrassment, never measuring up to the ridiculous standards I had accepted without question, applied to a framework of expectations neither I nor anyone else could meet.--J C Amberchele almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ” ― David Foster Wallace, Infinite Jest
Edited by jesuisravi (07/04/15 07:28 PM)
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Re: Outdoor grow? Need some help [Re: jesuisravi]
#21898189 - 07/04/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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You are correct. I can guarantee his climate near the bays is better than mine which is in the prairies.
This is from a week ago: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21856836
I'm still getting more coming up. I think it'll be fine. Cubes are unbelievably resilient
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Re: Outdoor grow? Need some help [Re: Mad Season]
#21900034 - 07/05/15 08:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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No whear near a bay...... An hour out side London on..... Center of southern Ontario. And my back yard forest stays good year long
Thank you for the link mad season.
I do understand I'm am a bit late in the season to be doing this outside....... But if it takes a month for caking that takes me to August with still good temps for the month. and into a bit of September..... Mid September October is whear the temps seem to drop.
Can't frigen wait to get this going. Almost feels like making pot brownies for the first time.....but anyways spores are due in from ralphsters this week. And all I need is vermiculite. So I could be caked this week.
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jesuisravi
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Re: Outdoor grow? Need some help [Re: Mad Season]
#21904265 - 07/06/15 07:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: You are correct. I can guarantee his climate near the bays is better than mine which is in the prairies.
This is from a week ago: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21856836
I'm still getting more coming up. I think it'll be fine. Cubes are unbelievably resilient
Very nice. Do you plan to try to carry this bed over the winter? I wonder if that could be done by piling it high with grass clippings, leaves or the like? I have a pile of clippings in my back yard and might just try to get a cube bed going later this summer. Then I will try to winterized it some way, insulate it with a thick cover of clippings. I may mark off part of the bed, dig it up, put it in a big plastic tub and keep it in the basement until spring. That feels promising.
-------------------- Most of my beliefs I acquired from my father and from John Wayne, and anything that wasn't ultra tough and ultra cool was to me ultra embarrassing. In fact, I lived in a state of near continuous embarrassment, never measuring up to the ridiculous standards I had accepted without question, applied to a framework of expectations neither I nor anyone else could meet.--J C Amberchele almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ” ― David Foster Wallace, Infinite Jest
Edited by jesuisravi (07/06/15 09:20 AM)
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