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OfflineLearyfanS
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Federal Judge: My Drug War Sentences Were ‘Unfair and Disproportionate’
    #21883641 - 07/01/15 04:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

It's a shame that people always want to make a change once they're no longer in a position of power.  But nonetheless, I'm very happy to hear that this former federal judge is not only speaking out, but with words that cut straight to the quick and encapsulate the problem so well.  The more people hear these words, the sooner this thing will be over.






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Federal Judge: My Drug War Sentences Were ‘Unfair and Disproportionate’

Nancy Gertner, who left the bench after 17 years, compares the damage caused by drug prohibition to the destruction of cities in World War II.

    Conor Friedersdorf Jun 29, 2015

ASPEN, Colo.—Former Federal Judge Nancy Gertner was appointed to the federal bench by Bill Clinton in 1994. She presided over trials for 17 years. And Sunday, she stood before a crowd at The Aspen Ideas Festival to denounce most punishments that she imposed.

Among 500 sanctions that she handed down, “80 percent I believe were unfair and disproportionate,” she said. “I left the bench in 2011 to join the Harvard faculty to write about those stories––to write about how it came to pass that I was obliged to sentence people to terms that, frankly, made no sense under any philosophy.”

No theory of retribution or social change could justify them, she said. And that dispiriting conclusion inspired the radical idea that she presented: a call for the U.S. to mimic its decision after World War II to look to the future and rebuild rather than trying to punish or seek retribution. As she sees it, the War on Drugs ought to end in that same spirit. “Although we were not remotely the victors of that war, we need a big idea in order to deal with those who were its victims,” she said, calling for something like a Marshall Plan.

She went on to savage the War on Drugs at greater length.

“This is a war that I saw destroy lives,” she said. “It eliminated a generation of African American men, covered our racism in ostensibly neutral guidelines and mandatory minimums… and created an inter-generational problem––although I wasn't on the bench long enough to see this, we know that the sons and daughters of the people we sentenced are in trouble, and are in trouble with the criminal justice system.”

She added that the War on Drugs eliminated the political participation of its casualties. “We were not leveling cities as we did in WWII with bombs, but with prosecution, prison, and punishment,” she said, explaining that her life’s work is now focused on trying to reconstruct the lives that she undermined––as a general matter, by advocating for reform, and as a specific project: she is trying to go through the list of all the people she sentenced to see who deserves executive clemency.

Her remarks can be watched in full beginning at about the 42 minute mark in the video below:




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Re: Federal Judge: My Drug War Sentences Were ‘Unfair and Disproportionate’ [Re: Learyfan] * 2
    #21883705 - 07/01/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Her guilt and penitence comes far too late for those upon whom she passed judgment for 17 years.  I'm glad she's allowing her enlightened spirit to try and make right what is wrong, but 'cmon, lady...you had a voice 15 years ago, and evidently felt the same way.  Why didn't you follow your conscience and raise your voice up against the system THEN instead of now?

Thumbs down, judge.  :thumbdown:

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Re: Federal Judge: My Drug War Sentences Were ‘Unfair and Disproportionate’ [Re: Nature Boy]
    #21883911 - 07/01/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Any awakening is better than no awakening, judges are put into a system they have no control over, the system rules the judges

They spent like 12-15 years on an education so they could be free and have fun, but now the system says they must destroy people's lives to keep their education credentials(be a judge)


So the choice is:
1. keep ones education/work in the field
2. stop working as a judge


There are plenty of laws that don't make sense, at least 50% don't make sense to the common man

Problematic laws are the least of our worries, the big issues are war and pollution

I wouldn't want a 3rd world war, but I would like tolerance too


It seems there is an awakening going on, maybe in part due to internet, or something is changing globally

It seems our consciousness is connected globally, so we all awaken to some degree at the same time, but not everyone follows the choice they got


we all get 'the call' to awaken, but some ignore the call


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Re: Federal Judge: My Drug War Sentences Were ‘Unfair and Disproportionate’ [Re: lessismore]
    #21883930 - 07/01/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

people often get life crises around 30 and 50, that's the time to review ones life, maybe awaken - if one understands that is needed, or maybe stop some mistakes


people do what they're supposed to do, "there are no bad people"


People take their choices themselves, they know they don't live in a free country, and they chose to disobey order/law
So they get in jail for weed

400 years ago they might have been burned as witches or such for taking mushrooms / other plants


Society evolves in its own slow way, there is not a lot that will force evolve humanity, unless its predestined it seems

awakening is not random, if she saw those mistakes, she probably saw all her other mistakes in life... - so now she is not one of the system anymore


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Re: Federal Judge: My Drug War Sentences Were ‘Unfair and Disproportionate’ [Re: lessismore] * 1
    #21883980 - 07/01/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They aren't able to keep their jobs unless they do what they're told


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Re: Federal Judge: My Drug War Sentences Were ‘Unfair and Disproportionate’ [Re: Konyap]
    #21887908 - 07/02/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Illyabo said:
They aren't able to keep their jobs unless they do what they're told




Agrees^

i think it would be worth time to find other peoples like her,
(those retired/retiring from powerful but powerless places)
to speak for what is right instead of what is required by law.


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Re: Federal Judge: My Drug War Sentences Were ‘Unfair and Disproportionate’ [Re: ellomello]
    #21888209 - 07/02/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Someone should create a stopthedrugwar.com , and contact all ex-judges, ex-narc officers, ex-cops etc. that have regretted what they're doing

Some cops put people to jail for smoking a joint and then when they retire they give their wife medical cannabis for her terminal cancer

Some judges live for peace, but when they get their education they are forced to work against their morals they've had their whole life


Very few people like the system as it is, there are people controlling others via the system

Only by becoming aware of the system's flaws can we recreate a better system


No system is perfect, a system often does as much bad as it does good

If we take children from peopele homes to protect children, we often take the wrong people away from their parents!


With every law there is a big danger of wrong doing
The law is nothing without compassion


Seriously, someone should make a .com like that, but unfortunately I'm out of money


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Re: Federal Judge: My Drug War Sentences Were ‘Unfair and Disproportionate’ [Re: lessismore] * 1
    #21892996 - 07/03/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well there are several similar sites : here are two with decent newsletters..

http://stopthedrugwar.org/
http://www.drugpolicy.org/


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