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jesuisravi
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Hope for nausea phobes (like me)
#21882745 - 07/01/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I came across this on an internet site today. The page where I copied the information is headlined thus: CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES. I think it may be on the University of Arizona's website. Sorry I am not more precise. I was directed straight to the page by a search engine. The page itself doesn't give any indication,except by its diction and tone--psilocybin is referred to again and again here as a neurotoxin--as to whose website it is from. The address is not of much help either except that is a ua/psilocybin in it somewhere. There is an ad on the page which says:FIND A DOCTOR NEAR YOU. You can infer what you like.
Anyway, here is what I copied: Injecting psilocybin liquid rectally by means of an enema is second only to intravenous injection for having the drug reach the brain quickly. This area of the body has a significant surface area for absorption. This method reduces nausea and vomiting associated with eating mushrooms. There is no stomach acid to slow the absorption of the psilocybin base. Also, the liver is bypassed as the drug is absorbed into the blood. This method of using psilocybin is uncommon in non-Native American cultures because most users of psilocybin are interested in a “natural” experience and enema administration is not considered “natural” to most users. Archeological evidence of psilocybin liquid via enemas dates back to a.d. 1 and some tribes still practice this method today. In ancient times, a hollow bone or tube was inserted deep into the rectum. Then an animal bladder filled with the psilocybin liquid was attached to the end of the tube. The liquid was then squirted deep into the rectum and lower intestine. Because so many natural barriers are bypassed by this method, the user is at great risk for overdose, serious side effects, or death.
-------------------- Most of my beliefs I acquired from my father and from John Wayne, and anything that wasn't ultra tough and ultra cool was to me ultra embarrassing. In fact, I lived in a state of near continuous embarrassment, never measuring up to the ridiculous standards I had accepted without question, applied to a framework of expectations neither I nor anyone else could meet.--J C Amberchele almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ” ― David Foster Wallace, Infinite Jest
Edited by jesuisravi (07/01/15 01:30 PM)
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jesuisravi
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Re: Hope for nausea phobes (like me) [Re: jesuisravi]
#21883787 - 07/01/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I see nobody is excited about this news. Well, SWIM is going to try it--as soon as he gets some mushroom material to make a tea with, and he will report back how the experience went. I imagine people don't much cotton to the idea of giving themselves an enema but SWIM has done this many times and has no problem with it. It is actually a prophylactic procedure that a lot of people perform on themselves religiously every day. Very healthy practice.
That chicken SWIM wants to avoid nausea at almost any price because it has a way of turning a good thing bad in a hurry for him.
-------------------- Most of my beliefs I acquired from my father and from John Wayne, and anything that wasn't ultra tough and ultra cool was to me ultra embarrassing. In fact, I lived in a state of near continuous embarrassment, never measuring up to the ridiculous standards I had accepted without question, applied to a framework of expectations neither I nor anyone else could meet.--J C Amberchele almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ” ― David Foster Wallace, Infinite Jest
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Eggtimer
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Re: Hope for nausea phobes (like me) [Re: jesuisravi]
#21883918 - 07/01/15 05:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fearing nausea can cause anxiety which can cause nausea. It could be what's happening in the trip rather than the mushrooms.
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Nausea - Anxiety Symptoms Nausea can be described as:
An unsettled feeling in the stomach that accompanies the urge to vomit Stomach distress that causes an urge to vomit Distended and/or bloating in the stomach A stomach that feels upset A stomach that feels 'warm,' uneasy, 'full,' nauseated
Nausea can come and go rarely, occur frequently, or persist indefinitely. For example, you may feel a pins and needles feeling once and a while and not that often, feel it off and on, or feel it all the time.
Nausea may precede, accompany, or follow an escalation of other anxiety sensations and symptoms, or occur by itself.
Nausea can precede, accompany, or follow an episode of nervousness, anxiety, fear, and elevated stress, or occur ‘out of the blue’ and for no apparent reason.
Nausea can range in intensity from slight, to moderate, to severe. It can also come in waves, where it’s strong one moment and eases off the next.
Nausea can change from day to day, and/or from moment to moment.
All of the above combinations and variations are common. What causes anxiety nausea?
Many things can bring on nausea. Some common causes are seasickness and other motion sicknesses, early pregnancy, intense pain, exposure to chemical toxins, emotional stress (fear), worry (anxiety), gallbladder disease, food poisoning, indigestion, various viruses, and certain smells or odors.
Nausea is not a disease in and of itself. It is a symptom of other conditions. For example, it can be a symptom of stomach flu, food poisoning, motion sickness, overeating, blocked intestine, illness, concussion or brain injury, appendicitis, inner ear conditions, and migraines. It can also be a symptom of more serious conditions so it is important to see your doctor if your nausea persists.
As mentioned, nausea is a very common symptom of stress, fear, and anxiety. Since acute or chronic stress, fear, and anxiety can cause the body to function abnormally, they can cause a number of stomach and intestinal distresses including nausea, vomiting, bloating, diarrhea, “lump in the stomach,” constipation, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, and general stomach malaise, to name a few.
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Re: Hope for nausea phobes (like me) [Re: jesuisravi] 1
#21884001 - 07/01/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Plug some penis envy
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Re: Hope for nausea phobes (like me) [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21884202 - 07/01/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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1: SWIM does absolutely nothing for you legally. All it does is make you sound silly in thinking that using "SWIM" will save you in a court of law.
2: I've never taken psilocybin rectally, but the logic sounds fine. I've tried E this way and it definitely works. No nausea whatsoever. Not the most comfortable way to take it though; it kinda burns for awhile. Before shooting mushroom tea up your ass, I would suggest trying the other methods like tea, tea with lemon balm, or LemonTek. Personally I love LemonTek as I can take heavy doses (20-30g dried cubes) and have next to no nausea. Or if this is just a reason to put things up your butt, go right ahead. :P
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Re: Hope for nausea phobes (like me) [Re: Gottaloveacid]
#21884243 - 07/01/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I gag non-stop if i try to eat them straight up. I really dig a tea made with lemon, lime, honey and your dose. It also re-hydrates the mushrooms and they are also coated in all sorts of yummies, makes them way nicer to eat! I don't have an exact recipe, but i can throw what I do out there if you'd like?
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Re: Hope for nausea phobes (like me) [Re: Yetionbooms]
#21884285 - 07/01/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mushroom tea enema's should work fine, but in my opinion it's not really necessary. Tea will get rid of 90% of the nausea. If that's not good enough for you then try eating some fresh ginger or ginger containing anti-nausea gum. You can find the gum at any wal-greens.
Mushroom nausea is a walk in the park compared to trying to consume mescaline containing cacti.
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jesuisravi
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Re: Hope for nausea phobes (like me) [Re: Eggtimer]
#21885581 - 07/01/15 11:04 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Eggtimer said: Fearing nausea can cause anxiety which can cause nausea. It could be what's happening in the trip rather than the mushrooms.
Quote:
Nausea - Anxiety Symptoms Nausea can be described as:
An unsettled feeling in the stomach that accompanies the urge to vomit Stomach distress that causes an urge to vomit Distended and/or bloating in the stomach A stomach that feels upset A stomach that feels 'warm,' uneasy, 'full,' nauseated
Nausea can come and go rarely, occur frequently, or persist indefinitely. For example, you may feel a pins and needles feeling once and a while and not that often, feel it off and on, or feel it all the time.
Nausea may precede, accompany, or follow an escalation of other anxiety sensations and symptoms, or occur by itself.
Nausea can precede, accompany, or follow an episode of nervousness, anxiety, fear, and elevated stress, or occur ‘out of the blue’ and for no apparent reason.
Nausea can range in intensity from slight, to moderate, to severe. It can also come in waves, where it’s strong one moment and eases off the next.
Nausea can change from day to day, and/or from moment to moment.
All of the above combinations and variations are common. What causes anxiety nausea?
Many things can bring on nausea. Some common causes are seasickness and other motion sicknesses, early pregnancy, intense pain, exposure to chemical toxins, emotional stress (fear), worry (anxiety), gallbladder disease, food poisoning, indigestion, various viruses, and certain smells or odors.
Nausea is not a disease in and of itself. It is a symptom of other conditions. For example, it can be a symptom of stomach flu, food poisoning, motion sickness, overeating, blocked intestine, illness, concussion or brain injury, appendicitis, inner ear conditions, and migraines. It can also be a symptom of more serious conditions so it is important to see your doctor if your nausea persists.
As mentioned, nausea is a very common symptom of stress, fear, and anxiety. Since acute or chronic stress, fear, and anxiety can cause the body to function abnormally, they can cause a number of stomach and intestinal distresses including nausea, vomiting, bloating, diarrhea, “lump in the stomach,” constipation, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, and general stomach malaise, to name a few.
There is an element of anxiety no doubt, but there is also a powerful distaste for the smell, texture and the flavor--if you want to call it that--of psilocibin mushroom flesh. Also,as is well known, there are substances in these mushrooms that Mr. Stomach is never going make friends with.
-------------------- Most of my beliefs I acquired from my father and from John Wayne, and anything that wasn't ultra tough and ultra cool was to me ultra embarrassing. In fact, I lived in a state of near continuous embarrassment, never measuring up to the ridiculous standards I had accepted without question, applied to a framework of expectations neither I nor anyone else could meet.--J C Amberchele almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ” ― David Foster Wallace, Infinite Jest
Edited by jesuisravi (07/01/15 11:12 PM)
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jesuisravi
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Re: Hope for nausea phobes (like me) [Re: Yetionbooms]
#21885590 - 07/01/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for the offer but I have made tea and I know that it certainly helps. I would use ginger and lemon essential oil too if I went that route.
-------------------- Most of my beliefs I acquired from my father and from John Wayne, and anything that wasn't ultra tough and ultra cool was to me ultra embarrassing. In fact, I lived in a state of near continuous embarrassment, never measuring up to the ridiculous standards I had accepted without question, applied to a framework of expectations neither I nor anyone else could meet.--J C Amberchele almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ” ― David Foster Wallace, Infinite Jest
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jesuisravi
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Re: Hope for nausea phobes (like me) [Re: searching]
#21885603 - 07/01/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have no interest at all in mescaline. I'll leave that to better men than I am.
-------------------- Most of my beliefs I acquired from my father and from John Wayne, and anything that wasn't ultra tough and ultra cool was to me ultra embarrassing. In fact, I lived in a state of near continuous embarrassment, never measuring up to the ridiculous standards I had accepted without question, applied to a framework of expectations neither I nor anyone else could meet.--J C Amberchele almost nothing important that ever happens to you happens because you engineer it. Destiny has no beeper; destiny always leans trenchcoated out of an alley with some sort of 'psst' that you usually can't even hear because you're in such a rush to or from something important you've tried to engineer. ” ― David Foster Wallace, Infinite Jest
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Re: Hope for nausea phobes (like me) [Re: jesuisravi]
#21885608 - 07/01/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am fine with the nausea - can't stomach the idea of shrooming out my ass. No pun lol.
I agree with an earlier poster that anxiety can cause nausea. It is part of the trip, just like having a come up (can't imagine getting instantly high as a good thing). Just accept it and you will feel better. On my trip today I thought I was feeling queezy and I started smelling puke - but it was all in my head. I sat up and felt much better once I stopped caring.
-------------------- "Psychedelics are like carnival tickets, you buy the ticket and take the ride, then you get off and go home. What your talking about is physical death. That's when you're pulled into the carnival against your will and your stuck there for eternity."
Edited by bluegill (07/01/15 11:12 PM)
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