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ZeroBoyWD
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SGFC: Enough Perlite?
#21882736 - 07/01/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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What do you think? Enough perlite? RH of my room is around 45%
Any comments about my chamber are welcome
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Re: SGFC: Enough Perlite? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21882746 - 07/01/15 12:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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4-6inches
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PussyFart
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Re: SGFC: Enough Perlite? [Re: bodhisatta]
#21882749 - 07/01/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: 4-6inches
3-5 inches, as most teks say, works fine as well....
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ZeroBoyWD
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Re: SGFC: Enough Perlite? [Re: PussyFart]
#21882756 - 07/01/15 12:40 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow I guess I should have read a tek before attempting all this ¬¬
I was more looking for someone who had used a similar sized chamber let me know in their experience if more would be better. Its at about 5.5 inches. Also if my RH had any impact on how much I should use.
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Re: SGFC: Enough Perlite? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21882792 - 07/01/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looks fine to me
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Re: SGFC: Enough Perlite? [Re: Grim767]
#21883035 - 07/01/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The size of the chamber doesn't matter. If you have to ask these questions you should follow directions exactly. You'll know when you know enough to change things.
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Re: SGFC: Enough Perlite? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#21883118 - 07/01/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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36fuckin5 said: The size of the chamber doesn't matter. If you have to ask these questions you should follow directions exactly. You'll know when you know enough to change things.
I'll know when I know enough.... hmmmm. That some sort of Buddhist thing? I understand the purpose of the perlite and how it functions, and saying the size of the container doesn't matter runs counter to information here on the SGFC and how it functions with FAE. And can I just point out that the teks have not been updated in a long long time and still have 5-star teks that others will say are ineffective (PMP for example)
Do you have anything positive to contribute or just the one comment. I'm not asking for a hand holding babysitter here, I was asking a pretty specific question about if RH of the surrounding room is going to have much impact on the RH of the inside. Previously I had a standing RH of around 20% and it made a huge impact on my shoddy SGFC.
Now I got a proper chamber and I'm getting things set up, so I asked a specific question. "Read the directions" is not exactly advice is it? Monkey-see monkey-do works when your just starting out but when you get a pretty good idea of whats going on you have to start getting more specific.
Got any personal anecdotes of using more or less perlite in differing conditions? Cause thats what I was looking for.
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Re: SGFC: Enough Perlite? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21885390 - 07/01/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It won't make a difference in how much perlite you need to use. It's always about 4-6 inches. You may have to hydrate it more often in low RH.
The TEKs posted on the main page are basically useless. Watch RR's videos.
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Re: SGFC: Enough Perlite? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#21885471 - 07/01/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok for the sake of making an antagonistic argument, say I have a 55 gallon trash can. Still gonna be 4-6 inches?
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36fuckin5 said: The size of the chamber doesn't matter.
Saying its going to be 4-6 inches regardless of the container size, shape, and dimensions does not follow good science. Maybe I'm overtired and being anal, but it seems to me that differing proportional dimensions would alter the mechanics of the chamber. Not arguing 4-6 doesn't apply to mine, arguing that 4-6 isn't a magic number.
And who the hell is making a SGFC without watching the videos first? Its like half an hour from mixing substrate to fruiting.
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Re: SGFC: Enough Perlite? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21886524 - 07/02/15 06:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Any size sgfc that's realistic it works in. A 55gal trash can is something only a stupid fuck would use it has too much headspace. So asking about perlite in a 55g can is just a way to be one of those devils advocate dicks that people like to facepalm 
4-6 is a magic number SGFC tote size regardless as long as its a normal shape for SGFC
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (07/02/15 06:27 AM)
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Re: SGFC: Enough Perlite? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21887456 - 07/02/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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ZeroBoyWD said: And who the hell is making a SGFC without watching the videos first? Its like half an hour from mixing substrate to fruiting.
You'd be amazed...
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Re: SGFC: Enough Perlite? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#21887586 - 07/02/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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36fuckin5 said:
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ZeroBoyWD said: And who the hell is making a SGFC without watching the videos first? Its like half an hour from mixing substrate to fruiting.
You'd be amazed...
What videos? still haven't watched any.. @OP read, read, read some more! Read until you drop. If you come across recent information, you'll see that RH isn't as important as misting. In fact you don't even need humidity. I got these in a zone 2 climate with a humidity of 1-10%. Not the usual 95% everyone calls for. All I needed to do was water when they needed it
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Re: SGFC: Enough Perlite? [Re: Mad Season]
#21887774 - 07/02/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: So asking about perlite in a 55g can is just a way to be one of those devils advocate dicks that people like to facepalm 
Why sir! Surely I have no idea what you mean 
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bodhisatta said: 4-6 is a magic number SGFC tote size regardless as long as its a normal shape for SGFC
The accuracy of statement I was looking for. My whole point was I've seen people have limited success in chambers that were too tall, I had to go to the extreme to make my pointless point
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Mad Season said: Read until you drop. If you come across recent information, you'll see that RH isn't as important as misting. In fact you don't even need humidity. I got these in a zone 2 climate with a humidity of 1-10%. Not the usual 95% everyone calls for. All I needed to do was water when they needed it
Yeah, its a bit tough trying to sift through all the data I've missed in the last 5 or 6 years. I was actually able to find that info about the humidity, purely by happenstance, after I was done posting this thread last night.
Also, you're zone 2?! I am as well! We should be besties!
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Edited by ZeroBoyWD (07/02/15 12:44 PM)
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Re: SGFC: Enough Perlite? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
#21887817 - 07/02/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Perfect dude. Nice looking sgfc by the way! Everything to a T!
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