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Invisiblecaman
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What is the TPP?
    #21882078 - 07/01/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The Trans-Pacific Partnership sounds incredibly fucked up.. Can someone please explain for me the jist of what all this bullshit is about? I cannot believe I only just heard about this  :facepalm3:


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Re: What is the TPP? [Re: caman]
    #21882132 - 07/01/15 09:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well, no one is exactly sure, frankly, as it's been kept on the QT due to Obama honoring the other countries wish to keep it that way. I don't think at all the he should have signed it under those circumstances, keeping everyone in the dark about it. Make the facts public and let we, the people decide whether or not it should be signed by our representatives.


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Re: What is the TPP? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #21882832 - 07/01/15 01:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

>Obama honoring the other countries...

Obumble has no honor. He is just a sneaky creep. Its secret because its very bad for us and if people knew, there would be massive protests. I am always amazed at how the sheep will keep blindly supporting a neocon in disguise just because he is a dem. When the news finally comes out, years later, the media will spin it in hope you sheep are too worn out and apathetic to rise up.


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Re: What is the TPP? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21884633 - 07/01/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No, I certainly am not blindly following Obama by any means. In fact, I agree with you that he's turned out to be nothing more than a Neocon, light version. He has done quite a few good things, but increasingly more he's done some really bad things as well. I certainly won't be shedding any tears when he goes.


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Re: What is the TPP? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21886520 - 07/02/15 06:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm against TPP as well.  Not sure why you think everyone  blindly follows.


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Re: What is the TPP? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #21886991 - 07/02/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nobody knows exactly what it is because they are keeping it secret.


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Re: What is the TPP? [Re: Shins]
    #21887361 - 07/02/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

They support the bum who introduced it and kept it secret.


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Re: What is the TPP? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #21887390 - 07/02/15 10:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I'm against TPP as well.  Not sure why you think everyone  blindly follows.



Hello Fal.  Do you mind going into greater details as to why you are opposed to TPP?

If it pleases you.


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Re: What is the TPP? [Re: WAN]
    #21889010 - 07/02/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Shit, I guess indeed nobody really knows. From what I have researched it certainly doesn't sound too good..


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