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Boletus bicolor?
    #21881811 - 07/01/15 06:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

hello, I found a beautiful Bolete that I believe may be a butter bicolor. it was growing in a bunch of moss surrounded by trees. the spore print was olive colored. it bruised blue, but it took a few minutes. thank you!

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Re: Boletus bicolor? [Re: SoulSacrifice]
    #21881828 - 07/01/15 06:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Beautiful example of stem reticulation.


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Re: Boletus bicolor? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #21881839 - 07/01/15 07:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I trusted identifier said:

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ToxicMan said:
To ID Boletus bicolor, you need to verify the following (quoting from Edible Wild Mushrooms of North America, by David Fischer and Alan Bessette (a good book you should buy)):

1. Cap dry, 2 or more inches across, dark rose red to pale pinkish red, sometimes dull yellow at the edge

2. Pore surface yellow, slowly staining blue where bruised

3. Cap flesh pale yellow, slowly staining blue when cut

4. Stalk yellow at top, stalk flesh yellow throughout

5. Lower 2/3 of stalk surface dark rose red

Be sure that your specimen meets *all* of the features above. If it differs in even one, you have something else. Check each and every specimen individually - different, similar species can grow literally side by side.


Slowly in this context means more than 10 seconds. The boletes that bruise blue quickly will change to blue in less than a second. You have to be alert and ready to even see it.

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Re: Boletus bicolor? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #21881878 - 07/01/15 07:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Beautiful example of stem reticulation.




that's not even an example of stem reticulation, that is just coloration.

this is what reticulation looks like:



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Re: Boletus bicolor? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #21882937 - 07/01/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Buster_Brown said:
I trusted identifier said:

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ToxicMan said:
To ID Boletus bicolor, you need to verify the following (quoting from Edible Wild Mushrooms of North America, by David Fischer and Alan Bessette (a good book you should buy)):

1. Cap dry, 2 or more inches across, dark rose red to pale pinkish red, sometimes dull yellow at the edge

2. Pore surface yellow, slowly staining blue where bruised

3. Cap flesh pale yellow, slowly staining blue when cut

4. Stalk yellow at top, stalk flesh yellow throughout

5. Lower 2/3 of stalk surface dark rose red

Be sure that your specimen meets *all* of the features above. If it differs in even one, you have something else. Check each and every specimen individually - different, similar species can grow literally side by side.


Slowly in this context means more than 10 seconds. The boletes that bruise blue quickly will change to blue in less than a second. You have to be alert and ready to even see it.

Happy mushrooming!







thank you very much, this quote has shed a lot of light on the bicolor for me (:


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Re: Boletus bicolor? [Re: doctorghosty]
    #21883515 - 07/01/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Gee, and I've been looking for this:



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Re: Boletus bicolor? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #21883547 - 07/01/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I wasn't trying to be a dick, I've just never heard of reticulation meaning spotted patches in mycology, I certainly could be wrong though.


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Re: Boletus bicolor? [Re: doctorghosty]
    #21883583 - 07/01/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for setting me straight. I went by an identification guide for boletus edulis. The google pic' references are divided on whether edulis bruises blue or not. Do you know?


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Re: Boletus bicolor? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #21883722 - 07/01/15 04:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know the species well enough to say but I've read accounts that claim it depends on the collection


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Re: Boletus bicolor? [Re: doctorghosty]
    #21883880 - 07/01/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hmm. I was under the impression that the mushrooms going under the B. edulis name do not bruise. At least that's what MushroomExpert says.


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Re: Boletus bicolor? [Re: o8u]
    #21883908 - 07/01/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Reports I read may well have been of misidentified Rex-veris, I defer to Kuo every day of the week


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Re: Boletus bicolor? [Re: doctorghosty]
    #21884266 - 07/01/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I see from the link that Edulis may not exist in N.America and that I'm probably collecting a look-alike.


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